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Debaser
02-21-2003, 12:40 PM
I just got my renewal for my NRA membership in the mail. With it comes another set of sticker for a car window. I would like to put them on my car, but am concerned as to the image that this would project.

So, I would like to poll my fellow dopers to get your input on this.

I don't want this to be a discussion about gun ownership. Suffice it to say, that I agree strongly with what the NRA stands for. I don't want to debate the merits of the organization. This isn't GD.

Scenario 1:
So, if you are holding a job interview and see me pulling in at the parking lot of the job fair with my NRA sticker on my vehicle, what if anything do you think?

Are you anti-gun folks less likely to hire me?

Are you pro-second ammendment folks more likely to hire me?

Does anybody care?

Scenario 2:
I am trying to pull into your lane on the highway and you see the NRA sticker on my back windshield. What do you do?

Are you more likely to let me in, or cut me off?

Are you any less likely to flip me off if I deserve it?

Scenario 3:
You are a new friend/acquantance/coworker of mine. You get into my car because a group of us are going to lunch together. You see the NRA sticker.

Will you think differently of me after seeing it?

Would you ask about it, or comment on it?



I live in liberal and anti-gun (for the most part) Massachusetts and work in the high tech industry, if that matters any. I know how I feel when I see an pro-life bumper sticker on a car. I was wondering if NRA membership would be something I want to announce to the world every day. I am not going to base my decision on this thread exactly. I had just been thinking about it and wanted to see what people thought.

Indygrrl
02-21-2003, 12:45 PM
My first impression of someone with an NRA sticker is that they're a redneck, especially if they're driving a truck.

viking
02-21-2003, 12:58 PM
Well, there's a time to educate people about how guns are not all evil and there are good reasons to own them and all that. And then there's a time to smile and nod politely. To me, sticking any sticker on your car means your willing to give up the option of smiling and nodding politely...

Pábitel
02-21-2003, 01:04 PM
If anybody is into anything enough to paste messages about it on their vehicle then I assume that they are probably obsessed with that thing. It doesn't matter if that thing is a gun or a breed of dog or a recreational activty. If you feel the need to post a billboard about your interest on your car than you are a little TOOO involved.

As for it being gun related, I would assume that the person pretty much lives and breaths for guns and guns alone.

Why else would you feel the need to advertise your interest in guns to a bunch of strangers who could not care less.

BlackKnight
02-21-2003, 01:12 PM
When I see an NRA sticker on a car, I assume the driver or someone in his or her family is a member of the NRA.

In Conceivable
02-21-2003, 01:14 PM
The only thing that I tend to assume is that the guy is a hunter. This assumption wouldn't cause me to think anything more or less of the men.

Ukulele Ike
02-21-2003, 01:20 PM
I assume that the driver is a supporter of That Man in the White House, and his socialistic National Recovery Act program, and is guiding this once-fine nation to hell in a handbasket!

(stomping away muttering about Henry Wallace and Bolsheviks and how that name was probably changed from "Rosenfeld")

Happy Lendervedder
02-21-2003, 01:40 PM
I don't own a gun, I don't really care to own one, I have no intention of ever owning one, and I really feel that gun laws need to be stricter.

That being said, the only thing I think when I see an NRA sticker is that this guy is a hunter. Or likes guns.

Big deal. Guns ain't my bag, so what?



Happy

Chimera
02-21-2003, 01:43 PM
Wow. A lot of negative, nasty, ill-informed "assumptions".

I have a Life Member sticker on my Grand Am. In fact, I am a Benefactor level member.

I'm not a redneck, I'm not a Republican, I don't "live for guns". Heck, I don't hold to all of their positions either, just as I don't expect members of political parties to slavishly follow their party line.

So why do I advertise it? Because some of you people obviously need to see that "real people" belong to the NRA as well.

(And heck, when I lived in a bad neighborhood, it DID serve to disuade a few bad guys from bothering me further. And NO, I do not carry a gun or have one in my car. EVER. (well, except on the way to the range and back.))

In Conceivable
02-21-2003, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Chimera
Wow. A lot of negative, nasty, ill-informed "assumptions".



Actually the only one of those was Indygrrl assuming the guy was a "red-neck". I get so sick of hearing that insult thrown around. I think that Ukulele Ike was joking.

Indygrrl
02-21-2003, 01:53 PM
Well, I see a lot of redneck shit here in Indiana. Most of the NRA stickers I have seen are right next to the gun rack and the Calvin pissing sticker on the back window of an inflated pick-up truck.

I know that not all gun owners are rednecks, but it's hard to deny the relationship.

Spiff
02-21-2003, 01:57 PM
I assume that you are pro-gun.

racer72
02-21-2003, 02:00 PM
Really couldn't give a rats ass. I don't own any guns, I never will own any guns and I think Charlton Heston is a jerk. If someone wants to place themselves in potential danger, go for it. Just don't force your ideals on me.

In Conceivable
02-21-2003, 02:01 PM
What do you mean by redneck shit?

I really do hate that term and it is the second time I have read it today on this board to imply that some undesirable characteristic could be associated mainly with people from the south.

I don't mean to pick on you Indygrrl, it just gets under my skin is all.

Indygrrl
02-21-2003, 02:14 PM
The South? I'm talking about Indiana.

In Conceivable
02-21-2003, 02:15 PM
Redneck is usually a term used to refer to Southerns.

In Conceivable
02-21-2003, 02:17 PM
Southerners even. :)

Rib Eye
02-21-2003, 02:28 PM
I would assume that you lack the critical thinking skills to realize that the NRA's "defense of the second amendment" is only incidentally about individual rights and much more about the desires of gun manufacturers to continue to get rich manufacturing products which are soley intended to make it easier to kill people. The NRA is puppet lobby of the gun industry. Nothing more.

Zoff
02-21-2003, 02:32 PM
Dude, that's so deep and critically thought.

Athena
02-21-2003, 02:34 PM
Mr. Athena used to drive a VW camper van - pretty much the epitome of a "hippy van" type of thing. He also joined the NRA. I almost bust my gutt laughing the first time he drove up in his hippy van with the NRA sticker in the back window.

Spiff
02-21-2003, 03:06 PM
Two things.

1) I don't think r****ck is used to refer to U.S. Southerners exclusively. The term is used up here where I live (45° latitude, No. America) to refer to any tar-paper shack dwelling country rube. It's offensive to be sure, but it's not just for Southerners anymore!

2) I have kinfolk in Indiana. Southern Indiana. It's in the South, believe me!

Debaser
02-21-2003, 04:22 PM
Thanks for all the input so far.

I could deal without the driveby insults of the NRA, but I expected as much.

The opinions are pretty across the board so far, but I think the sentiment "don't give a rats ass" is clearly in the lead, with "fuck the NRA" and "the NRA is great" both lagging far behind.

Better results than I hoped for actually.

I do agree with the sentiments of some who point out that putting anything on your car pretty much means your life revolves around it. I currently don't have any bumper stickers except my college one. However, the NRA sticker is small and not gaudy. To me, it's much less offensive than say a "You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead...." or any other "slogan" oriented traditional shaped bumper stickers.

Keep em coming!

Washte
02-21-2003, 04:26 PM
When I see an NRA sticker on a rig going down the road the first thing that comes to mind is "don't piss off the driver cos I might get shot."

People have called me a redneck, but I grew up in Oregon driving pickup's, hunting, had dogs, fishing pole/gun rack on the back window. I'm university educated and a world traveller - not your ordinary redneck. Redneck is just a term - albeit a dumb one. Don't get your knickers in a knot.

I am neither pro nor anti gun. Grew up hunting and shooting - rifles, shotguns, pistols... - but strongly believe guns should be regulated.

I've known many NRA members and can honestly say they scare the bejeezus out of me.

My opinion: ditch the sticker and go fishing.

Skelji
02-21-2003, 04:51 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I can never tell from far away whether I'm seeing the NRA sticker or one for the U.S. Marine Corps.

As for the OP questions:

Job interview: I don't care what you have on your car, as long as you're qualified for the position.

Merging in traffic: My only qualifier is whether you use your signal or not. NRA sticker, Calvin sticker, hell, even a "Cecil Adams In 2004" sticker, use your turn signal if you want to get in front of me. I'm not a mindreader.

Driving someplace with you: Stickers don't bother me. Now, if you start cranking Britney Spears, that may bother me. :)

I'm no NRA fan, but if you believe in it and want to display a sticker, by all means do so. Like everything else, there will be those who approve and those who don't.

Magickly Delicious
02-21-2003, 05:19 PM
Well, I live in the middle of PA, and in the city I came from, it was common for highschools to give kids the day off on the first day of buck season--just so you know my background. I instantly think of my grandpa and get the warm and fuzzies when I see NRA stuff--as long as the person sporting the bumper sticker doesn't drive/act like a jerk. So

Scenario 1: Don't care. It has nothing to do with whether you can do your job, unless if you're applying to work as a sharpshooter.

Scenario 2: As long as your turn signal is on and there's enough room, I let people in. Don't care if you have an NRA sticker.

Scenario 3: I'd probably ask about it--whether you are a hunter, own a gun, or just support the right to own a gun. Wouldn't think any more or less of you for it.

Spavined Gelding
02-21-2003, 05:21 PM
Thought: Here is a guy for whom firearms are a central life focus. Don’t piss him off!

Violet
02-21-2003, 05:22 PM
Ex-NRA member here, so I wouldn't think anything.

Crafter_Man
02-21-2003, 05:27 PM
Every human is prejudice and judges people based on visual cues. Anyone who denies this is lying.

Like anyone else, when I see an NRA sticker I immediately make generalizations, and I realize some or even all may not be accurate. These include:

1. The person is not a liberal/democrat.
2. The person is pro-freedom.
3. The person is politically active and not shy about expressing his or her views.
4. The person is a gun owner and a staunch supporter of gun rights.

So would an NRA sticker bias my decision when hiring someone? Yes. And it my case it would be a positive bias, since I share the same views. (For the record, I was an NRA member up until a few months ago, and even had the familiar sticker on the car. But they pissed me off and I tore up my membership. I am still a lifetime member of the Gun Owners of America.)

Kalashnikov
02-21-2003, 05:42 PM
Likewise, I don't have an NRA sticker because they've done a lot of things that piss me off. They are actually one of the most successful gun control organizations. But I realize that there are many well-meaning gun owners who would disagree with me. So yes, it would give me a positive bias toward the person.

Bottle of Smoke
02-21-2003, 11:31 PM
Like other have mentioned, I tend to see any sticker on a car as an indication that the person is staunch supporter of whatever cause the sticker represents (the assumption is that you have to be into the advertised cause enough to be motivated to paste a sticker on your vehicle).

I see NRA stickers a lot around rural WI and I just assume that the driver is a hunter. They (the stickers) are often accompanied by Ducks Unlimited or other such stickers as well, so I figure hey, the guy likes to hunt and he's into it enough to advertise said fact. I don't really think about it much beyond that.

However, if the sticker is also accompanied by a "My President is Charlton Heston" sticker then I make the (admitedly prejudiced) leap of logic that the guy is a paranoid survivalist wacko.

Rubystreak
02-22-2003, 12:28 AM
I've never been sure why people put bumper stickers on their cars at all. Seems to me, you're going to be leaving this very expensive piece of equipment alone a lot, and also be driving it around in mixed company. Why advertise your personal business on the rear end of it? I like my ride to evoke the minimum amount of attention possible from passersby, other drivers, and the police. JMO.

NRA=pro freedom? Perhaps. However, IIRC, the NRA headquarters has only the second half of the Second Amendment written above the door...the NRA's agenda then is not strictly to uphold a constitutional right. This is what gives me a jaundiced view of them (along with some boneheaded moves by Mr. Heston et al). Though I am both in favor of the right to bear arms and pro-gun control, I would never join the NRA.

HPL
02-22-2003, 03:36 AM
I would personally think, if I saw an NRA sticker on your car that:

A.) You are very likely a gun owner.

B.) You are probably supportive of an individual's right to own a firearm.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with bumperstickers, in moderation. You have an NRA or an ACLU sticker, that doesn't bug me. However, when I see a car that 20 bumper stickers on it, all devoted to similar issues or worldviews, yeah, I consider there to be an obsession there.

Skid Row
02-22-2003, 07:04 AM
The NRA sticker alone would not mean much.

The NRA sticker along with a Jesus fish, or a confederate flag or a "Bush / Cheney" sticker or an "Abortion Kills a Beating Heart" sticker would let me know (in no uncertain terms) that the driver was a person of extremely limited intellgence. And possibly dangerous.

Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.

The Face
02-22-2003, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by Skid Row
The NRA sticker alone would not mean much.

The NRA sticker along with a Jesus fish, or a confederate flag or a "Bush / Cheney" sticker or an "Abortion Kills a Beating Heart" sticker would let me know (in no uncertain terms) that the driver was a person of extremely limited intellgence. And possibly dangerous.

Avoid. Avoid. Avoid.



generalisations about views contrary to yours,like this,say this to me.---->extremely limited intellgence. And possibly dangerous.

ratatoskK
02-22-2003, 11:17 AM
When I see an NRA sticker, I assume the person is belligerent. It brings to mind the image of Charlton Heston waving a rifle and making his "cold, dead hands" speech. I also assume the person is politically right-wing, maybe a survivalist or in Posse Comitatus or something like that.

It would not cause me to cut you off in traffic, give you the finger, etc. But it would affect how I judge you as a person, unless further contact with you shows my initial assumptions to be inaccurate.

(I'm not against hunting or the concept of owning guns, I just think the NRA is very extreme.)

burundi
02-22-2003, 11:41 AM
I agree with ratatoskK--my first impression would be of belligerence. Plenty of people own guns, but don't feel the need to display stickers about it. And if it was a "Charlton Heston is my president" bumper sticker (I know your's isn't), it would definitely give me a strong negative impression.

Stellablue
02-22-2003, 11:43 AM
My husband is a member of the NRA and has the NRA sticker on his truck. It is next to the Free Tibet sticker!
You think these don't belong together? His idea is that the people of Tibet should have been armed to the teeth and fought off the Chinese invasion. (Some of them tried.)

What people must think when driving behind him! Makes me smile. :)

Susanann
02-22-2003, 11:50 AM
I think the reactions are totally different depending on if the car is driven by a man or woman.

If it is on a car or truck driven by a woman, I tend to think that she probably has a ccw, is armed, and is giving fair warning to anybody with evil intentions.

If it is on a car driven by a man, It somehow seems more foolish if it is in a non-western or non-southern state, because most of the anti-gun public tend to discriminate against men who like or carry guns, but usually dont discriminate against women who arm themselves.

Crafter_Man
02-22-2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by ratatoskK
I'm not against hunting or the concept of owning guns, I just think the NRA is very extreme.
Interesting. I tore up my NRA membership because I thought they were too moderate...

NinetyWt
02-22-2003, 01:49 PM
Spiff, I almost fell out my chair after this:
2) I have kinfolk in Indiana. Southern Indiana. It's in the South, believe me! Thanks for the laugh !!

To the OP: NRA stickers are so plentiful here that I probably would't even notice it. I think it depends on where you are.

Forbin
02-22-2003, 02:09 PM
I assume nothing.
People often buy used cars with stickers already on them.
Often those same people are never sufficiently motivated to remove them. (It's work)

The_Peyote_Coyote
02-22-2003, 03:47 PM
I don't make any assumptions.

El Gui
02-22-2003, 05:47 PM
I am embarrased and really hate to admit this, but as someone who worked in HR and in-house recruiting, such a sticker would make me less likely to hire you. I would be tempted to make other generalizations about the individual (anti-gay, perhaps a bit uncomfortable around minorities, not likely to treat female co-workers as equals, etc.). I know its wrong and I shouldn't, but its just hard not too.

Not that there are many vehicles with NRA stickers in San Francisco. And a confederate battle flag? Hell, I'd call the cops and evacuate the building. :p

Michael Ellis
02-22-2003, 06:12 PM
If I saw a Volvo with an NRA bumpersticker I'd want to meet the driver.

drm
02-22-2003, 06:18 PM
First of all, I'll say I don't like guns at all and I really dislike Mr Heston.

S1, Job Interview
-no difference

S2, highway
-There isn't any way you're pulling in front of me on the highway, I drive far too fast for that.

S3, giving me a ride to lunch
-Honestly, I'd probably be a little afraid to begin with and ask you a lot of (innocent) questions about it. See, I never even saw a gun in real life until I was like 17 (except maybe holstered on a policeman).

Susanann
02-22-2003, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by El Gui
I am embarrased and really hate to admit this, but as someone who worked in HR and in-house recruiting, such a sticker would make me less likely to hire you. I would be tempted to make other generalizations about the individual (anti-gay, perhaps a bit uncomfortable around minorities, not likely to treat female co-workers as equals, etc.). I know its wrong and I shouldn't, but its just hard not too.

Not that there are many vehicles with NRA stickers in San Francisco. And a confederate battle flag? Hell, I'd call the cops and evacuate the building. :p

What if it was a black female lesbian who had the NRA decal on her car?

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