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START
11-24-2004, 01:39 AM
If your going to sag your pants then please don't wear briefs and please wear clean underwear.
Also make sure that your weiner is all the way in.

Most recently I was behind a guy walking up some stairs that was sagging his pants and had a hole in his boxers so as he was walking up I could see his disgusting hairy ass, and it is pretty common knowledge that you shouldn't wear briefs and sag your pants at the same time for obvious reasons.

My brother once gave a lady the peep show of her life in a store while trying on sweatshirts because when he lifted the shirt to take it off guess who pops out of the barn door, his friend Richard.

People that don't follow these rules give us all a bad name. ;)

cornflakes
11-24-2004, 04:18 AM
...And don't wear big pants to places where small children may be present, or a kid, my son for example, may turn to his parents and say "MOM! DAD! That guy is wearing the BIGGEST PANTS IN THE WORLD! I've never SEEN PANTS THAT BIG! Have you ever SEEN PANTS THAT BIG BEFORE IN YOUR LIFE?"

Trust me, big pants don't go well with a red face.

SkeptiJess
11-24-2004, 07:48 AM
If your going to sag your pants then please don't wear briefs and please wear clean underwear.

Also make sure that your weiner is all the way in.Words to live by. I think I'll embroider them on a pillow.

TellMeI'mNotCrazy
11-24-2004, 07:54 AM
This could be the next spoken-text hit... "Everybody's Free to Wear Baggy Pants"

Exgineer
11-24-2004, 08:21 AM
Actually, the primary rule is -

Knock that shit off, you look stupid. Just pull your pants up. And turn your ballcap around the right way while you're at it.

Wile E
11-24-2004, 08:31 AM
This could be the next spoken-text hit... "Everybody's Free to Wear Baggy Pants"

You sure it won't be "make sure your weiner is all the way in"?

It works anywhere, in fact I can picture a thread on hot dogs:

When putting condiments on your hot dog bun, make sure your weiner is all the way in. No one likes to see it poking out.


As for the baggy pants, I say let them wear them - it's good for a laugh, for the rest of us.

EddyTeddyFreddy
11-24-2004, 09:01 AM
I always wonder what happens when they try to run. I enjoy picturing it.

Zebra
11-24-2004, 09:27 AM
for a moment I misread the thread title as

Important Rules for Shagging your Parents


I'm kind of disappointed with the thread.

TellMeI'mNotCrazy
11-24-2004, 09:29 AM
for a moment I misread the thread title as

Important Rules for Shagging your Parents


I'm kind of disappointed with the thread.

There's only one: don't!

Jenaroph
11-24-2004, 09:37 AM
I always wonder what happens when they try to run. I enjoy picturing it.
Guy with huge pants got called up on stage on the Price is Right one time. I'm thinking, "If this guy wins his prize, he's gonna lose his pants." Yep, he won. Yep, he started jumping up and down. Yep, he ended up with his pants around his ankles. Bob Barker did his segue to commercial trying not to laugh too hard.

phall0106
11-24-2004, 09:51 AM
Sagging pants always make me think that the person wearing them has been subjected to hand-me-downs from his older, and much fatter, brother.

Wear some clothes that fit, eh?

Dung Beetle
11-24-2004, 09:53 AM
When my son was younger, we were sitting in a waiting room and in walked a guy with baggy pants. My boy laughed and pointed and yelled, "Look, Mommy, he's wearing clown pants! He's wearing clown pants!"
"Hush, baby," I said. "He doesn't know he looks funny."

Exgineer
11-24-2004, 10:01 AM
And another thing - just keep rolling your eyes like that, punk.

I'll bitchslap that stupid look right off your face.

indecisive1
11-24-2004, 10:27 AM
runs away from exgineer with pants going flappa flappa flappa

AngelicGemma
11-24-2004, 10:30 AM
When my son was younger, we were sitting in a waiting room and in walked a guy with baggy pants. My boy laughed and pointed and yelled, "Look, Mommy, he's wearing clown pants! He's wearing clown pants!"

:D

Kids are so honest. It's great!

velvetjones
11-24-2004, 10:35 AM
One of the funniest thing I've ever seen is an episode of "Cops" or maybe it was"World's Wildest Police Videos" (hey, it's not me, my daughter loves this sh!t) when the guy leads the police on a high speed car chase and when he finally wrecks, jumps out of the car and runs, only he can't run because his pants are falling down. He's desparately trying to haul ass with one hand holding up his pants. I think he made it about 10 feet before they tackled his sorry ass.

Maybe part of his sentance should be wearing super tight disco jeans from the 80s.

Missy2U
11-24-2004, 10:55 AM
One of the funniest thing I've ever seen is an episode of "Cops" or maybe it was"World's Wildest Police Videos" (hey, it's not me, my daughter loves this sh!t) when the guy leads the police on a high speed car chase and when he finally wrecks, jumps out of the car and runs, only he can't run because his pants are falling down. He's desparately trying to haul ass with one hand holding up his pants. I think he made it about 10 feet before they tackled his sorry ass.

velvet - I swear I think I saw this (hey - it's me, not my kid who loves this shit :D) - and it was Cops.

As an aside, Exgineer, I may quite possibly be in love with you. :D

Happy Scrappy Hero Pup
11-24-2004, 11:50 AM
Not to toot my own horn, but I was always proud of this thread. (http://boards.academicpursuits.us/sdmb/showthread.php?t=211845)


I wonder if the Big & Tall Men's stores have gotten more popular in all this.


I've even seen people wearing SUITS too big for them. And I can never keep a straight face when I see that.

Kythereia
11-24-2004, 11:54 AM
You know the saying "walk a mile in someone else's shoes"...?

I wonder what would happen if we all walked a mile in someone else's baggy pants. :D

Kerrigan
11-24-2004, 12:01 PM
I wonder what would happen if we all walked a mile in someone else's baggy pants.

Well, it would only take a few pairs for us to all fit in, right?

Kythereia
11-24-2004, 12:03 PM
Well, it would only take a few pairs for us to all fit in, right?

It's like one of those potato-bag races...

Lissla Lissar
11-24-2004, 12:09 PM
Actually, I came in here to mention your thread, Happy. It was great.

Exgineer
11-24-2004, 12:40 PM
As an aside, Exgineer, I may quite possibly be in love with you. :D
It's enough that you share my sentiments. Makes me feel all warm inside.

Zsofia
11-24-2004, 01:01 PM
I pass by my old high school often around 3:00ish, when they get out. I love watching the boys (they all look so young!) running across the street in their baggy low pants. They pick them up just like young ladies in hoop skirts! It's so dainty!

GraphicsGal
11-24-2004, 02:21 PM
What I want to know is: what about chafing?

We have a fellow here at work who is seriously into the baggy pants thing. He is also a fellow of substance...every time I see him walk by, I always wonder what he does for chafing.

I hear Gold Bond Powder is good.

Regallag_The_Axe
11-24-2004, 02:59 PM
Maybe part of his sentance should be wearing super tight disco jeans from the 80s.

That would be the best punishment ever.

Draelin
11-24-2004, 03:04 PM
Hey Happy, in regards to your Pit thread ... you weren't outside the Loews Wayne theaters, were you? :) 'Cause I see that every damn time I go to the movies.

bughunter
11-24-2004, 05:09 PM
You sure it won't be "make sure your weiner is all the way in"?
I doubt it for some reason.

Oh yeah... the reason is that I've seen the phrase Rock Out With Your Cock Out like four different times in four different places this past week.

I first read the phrase in a porn mag several years ago. But I believe it's about to claim its hundredth monkey and achieve its 15 minutes of fame.

And then be stuck in the modern collective subconscious along with Where's the Beef and Who let the dogs out?.

SusanStoHelit
11-24-2004, 05:44 PM
I believe "Rock out with your cock out" was recently given new life by Mr Spears (aka Kevin Federline). Every time I see a picture of him, he's wearing a fugly hat with that slogan on it.

START
11-24-2004, 06:26 PM
The reason why some people think that sagged jeans don't look good is because of people that don't follow the simple rules or take sagging to the extreme.
You gotta do it right or don't do it at all. ;)

Exgineer
11-24-2004, 06:41 PM
I'm sorry to break this to you, kid, but there's no right way. It's just stupid.

Are you rolling your eyes at me? You better not be giving me a stare, because I will beat you down.

Punks these days. They think us old-school bastards don't know what to do with a tire chain.

Bookkeeper
11-24-2004, 07:01 PM
I'm not that old, but my instinctive reaction to guys dressed like this is irreparably based on the fact that if I had seen someone dressed like this when I was growing up ('60s and early'70s), I would have known with 100% certainty that they were severely mentally handicapped and had dressed themself without supervision that morning. Ditto with the backwards baseball cap.

Happy Scrappy Hero Pup
11-24-2004, 08:01 PM
Draelin: It was Clifton Commons, actually. But I'm not surprised about Wayne.

And START, I'm really, REALLY sorry, but the only way to look good in sagged jeans is to take them off and put on pants that fit.

Exgineer, I beg to differ. The correct old-school way is to put your combat boot in his chest, then drag the heel down the body so that the pants are stuck at the knees. Then he's hurting and hobbled and you can effectively pick and choose impact points for your "hurt-you" knuckles and your feet.

Larry Mudd
11-24-2004, 09:23 PM
I'd like to show these kids video of "hard" kids from the eighties wearing fluorescent pink parachute pants.

*swish swish* *swish swish* *swish swish*

"Hey, look at this guy. Pretty cool, eh? Tough look, right?"

"That's totally lame!"

"Yeah, well, he thought he looked pretty cool, because cynical marketing bastards in reasonable looking suits that dictate fashion for the mentally challenged have a cruel sense of humour, and never get tired of making really stupid people easy to make out a distance. Say, where you get those pants? Nice."

ioioio
11-24-2004, 09:33 PM
I'm not that old, but my instinctive reaction to guys dressed like this is irreparably based on the fact that if I had seen someone dressed like this when I was growing up ('60s and early'70s), I would have known with 100% certainty that they were severely mentally handicapped and had dressed themself without supervision that morning. Ditto with the backwards baseball cap.
You got to give the kids credit. It was incredibly hard to come up with a more stupid way to dress than the way we dressed in the '60s and early '70s.

F. U. Shakespeare
11-24-2004, 09:57 PM
I was born in 1959. When I went to high school, tight-fitting pants were the style. Some of us carried it to extremes, and would no doubt be embarrassed if someone today has photos. So I try not to be too judgemental to kids today. Peer pressure can be lethal.

Today, I still favor good-fitting pants (Levi 501 jeans for the last 10+ years), but comfortable: e.g., this morning, I crawled behind a printer to fish a wire out. I was one of the older persons present, for the record.

Why do people wear the clothes they do? Well, the answer certainly varies with age. In high school, the primary goal was to get girls to think you were cool (at least for me). To reiterate, peer pressure played a big role in this.

For me today, the answer is a combination of comfort, simplicity, durability, image at work, and a little bit of image away from work. (I'm single, I play music in bars at night, and I chase women. There's some peer pressure in the mix, but not like in 1977).

That said...

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why anyone would want to wear pants that they couldn't run up a flight of stairs if they had to, too tight or too loose.

But I just don't see why anyone would wear ridiculously-baggy pants, unless it's pure peer pressure -- you don't look good in them, you look like an overgrown toddler who's had an accident.

I have wondered if it's a phenomenon that actor Michael Caine mentioned in describing his work in Zulu -- his character was an aristocratic British army officer, who spoke slowly and walked around with his hands clasped behind his back.

Caine's reasoning was that high-station people can do these things: they can talk slowly because people will listen to them; and they don't use their hands when they talk because people are already paying enough attention to them.

Possibly, someone wearing pants too baggy to run in is trying to look like they're too tough (or cool) to have to run?

Or maybe not.

In closing, I don't think anyone has ever topped P.J. O'Rourke's comment on the subject: "Pull your pants up, turn your hat around and get a job"

SusanStoHelit
11-25-2004, 11:30 AM
Possibly, someone wearing pants too baggy to run in is trying to look like they're too tough (or cool) to have to run?

that is close to my theory: male birds have such bright colors and huge plumage because it attracts females, right? Well, the reason these things are attractive is that it makes them more visible to predators. If they can survive being a target, they are worthy to mate with.

I see the baggy pants as a kind of peacock's tail- "I can't run away from a fight! Do me!"

Excalibre
11-25-2004, 11:54 AM
If your going to sag your pants then please don't wear briefs and please wear clean underwear.
Also make sure that your weiner is all the way in.

Also, "Don't ever do it. Ever. No matter what."

Christ do you guys look stupid to everyone else.

TellMeI'mNotCrazy
11-25-2004, 11:58 AM
I agree that the saggy pants look looks ridiculous. Of course, so did poodle skirts and bell bottoms and jeans tucked into legwarmers (don't even get me started on feathered hair) and the grunge look.

Every generation goes through their own style. And a big part of the driving force is looking exactly the way the older people don't want you to look. Eventually they'll grow up, get jobs, take their hats off altogether and conform to more... normal appearances. But if they're kids, and they're not hurting anyone, who cares?

Gyrate
11-25-2004, 12:18 PM
I've even seen people wearing SUITS too big for them. And I can never keep a straight face when I see that.I take it you're not a Talking Heads fan, then?

Jenaroph
11-25-2004, 12:22 PM
I take it you're not a Talking Heads fan, then?

You may ask yourself, why such a big suit?

And you may ask yourself, could this suit be taken in a little?

You may say to yourself, did the store have any mirrors?

pokey
11-25-2004, 12:32 PM
I don't mind the baggy pants thing becasue I was a teen in the 80s so it's not up to me to point any fingers at any young people for dressing stupidly. I want to be like my grandmother was about it. I would wear something dumb like my first home made nose ring, or whatever, and she'd just say, "well isn't that something." I knew she thought I looked stupid but she had too much class to say so.

The other day I was at the bank and there was a guy with his pants at his knees and a BIG parka on (which is also the style) and that looks 100% like a little guy with another little guy on his shoulders--aka two little kids disguised as a grown man. But what matters is I did not point any fingers at him.

Guinastasia
11-25-2004, 12:49 PM
Will this fad never die? The guys in my 8th grade class were wearing their pants that way and this was in 1991!

You guys make zoot suits look like spandex!

ReBusEniGma
11-25-2004, 01:40 PM
You may ask yourself, why such a big suit?

And you may ask yourself, could this suit be taken in a little?

You may say to yourself, did the store have any mirrors?


[The big finish]
Letting the days go by- pants are sagging every day
Letting the days go by - weiner safely tucked away
Into the blue again - after the pants have fallen
Once in your lifetime - I hear 'real' pants callin'

same as it ever was.... same as it ever was...
[/The big finish]


Actually, peer pressure has been and will always be a huge issue not only for young people, but everyone to a degree. Some peer pressure is bad, other types are quite harmless. Remember those pin-striped bell bottoms? For men? So tight at the top that you could ray-trace mr. happy and loose enough at the bottom to go, as Bill Cosby puts it, 'voom voom flap, voom voom flap.' Especially if they were corduroy.

Interesting thing is, styles tend to be cyclical to an extent, so you'll have old styles become new again eventually. I'll not be wearing bell bottoms ever again, but I'd gladly wear a Toga. :D

Mirror Image egamI rorriM
11-25-2004, 01:53 PM
The other kid at my bus stop wears his pants like that. When we walk home, I walk behind him, because he generally walks faster than I do, and he has to pull his pants up about every five steps. He keeps one hand on his waistband at all times, and walks with his legs wide apart. If I had telekinetic powers, I'd give them the tiny tug they need to go down to his ankles, and then maybe he'd invest in a belt to keep them where they belong.

Craneop2
11-25-2004, 07:21 PM
To finish the fashion statement completely. One MUST be sure to add a visor! Backward, AND upside down!

chaoticbear
11-25-2004, 07:59 PM
Actually, I find that most people here who sag do have belts. They're set *perfectly* on that setting that lets them hang down right around their ass. Thanks guys, love the boxers with monkeys on them.

And yes, I too am wondering when this will die out. Still going strong (and I'm in college.... think that people'd figure out that they look stupid? "Blue. White. Blue. White.")

dogbutler
11-25-2004, 08:33 PM
To finish the fashion statement completely. One MUST be sure to add a visor! Backward, AND upside down!

For the added downforce?

Colophon
11-26-2004, 11:03 AM
Dudes... it's "wiener", not "weiner".

And don't just turn your hat around; take it off.

F. U. Shakespeare
11-26-2004, 09:55 PM
I concur that this fad has been around an unusually long time (a guy I worked with around 1990-91 griped about his kid doing it).

Possibly, it will die out when us old people adopt elements of it, and it no longer seems edgy? (I'm thinking here of Mr. Brady's sideburns and President Carter's blue jeans).

And no, I'm not volunteering -- I've got enough Levi 501s (32x32) to last me until retirement.

Dante
11-26-2004, 10:30 PM
Jesus, I didn't even know there was a verb for this. Sagging your pants.

Sheeit.

Growing up in the 80's, you'd think I'd know better than to point and laugh at the current idiotic fashion. But I don't. So I do.

START
11-27-2004, 02:51 AM
For some reason people that think the whole style looks stupid, think that the people who wear it care what anybody thinks...like the guy who came up to my friend and I and told us that are pants were really low, as if we didn't know.

I would also like to say that I do not always sag my pants and I like suits so I am versatile when it comes to my style choices. "Sagging jeans or a suit looking clean when I'm on the scene..."

Scissorjack
11-27-2004, 04:58 AM
Dudes... it's "wiener", not "weiner".

"Although 'weiner' IS an accepted regional variation." {Principal Skinner} Damn, I was just WAITING for someone to come in and say that.

F. U. Shakespeare
11-27-2004, 08:54 AM
While I can accept that you don't care what I think (or anyone who doesn't 'get' the sagged-jeans style), I find it hard to believe that you don't care what anyone thinks of your appearance.

I do know people who don't care what anyone thinks about their appearance, they tend to be absent-minded professor types. They wear the same thing all the time, 'on the scene' or not.

For some reason people that think the whole style looks stupid, think that the people who wear it care what anybody thinks...like the guy who came up to my friend and I and told us that are pants were really low, as if we didn't know.

I would also like to say that I do not always sag my pants and I like suits so I am versatile when it comes to my style choices. "Sagging jeans or a suit looking clean when I'm on the scene..."

Brynda
11-27-2004, 09:09 AM
Ok, here's what I don't get. Most fashions try to emphasize something that society regards as positive, such as height and slimness. Those ugly pointed-toe shoes, for example, make the foot look longer, slimmer, and exaggerate the length of the leg. Ok, I don't like them, but I get it. But sagged pants? They make the wearer look like he has the legs of a dwarf! How on earth is that attractive?

F. U. Shakespeare
11-27-2004, 10:14 AM
I've thought about that too, Brynda, here's my take:

Baggy clothing can make a skinny body look bigger. It can also help a fat body 'pass' for 'bulked up'. So while it may seem ludicrous that such a look would be desired, it might make a boy seem more formidable.

There has rightly been a lot of talk about young girls aspiring to unrealistic body images, but I think young boys are affected as well -- pro wrestlers and bodybuilders are as ubiquitous as Barbie dolls.

So, maybe boys' clothing in general has gotten baggier partly in response to this? (Note that as girls' fashions have gotten more skimpy and revealing, boys' fashions have gotten bulkier and baggier).

Brynda
11-27-2004, 10:18 AM
I feel you* on the bagginess, F. U. Shakespeare, but what about the short legs? Short little bow-legs are not intimidating or attractive.

*[sub]sorry, just couldn't resist making fun of the slang, too, while I am making fun of the look.

Larry Mudd
11-27-2004, 12:28 PM
Ok, here's what I don't get. Most fashions try to emphasize something that society regards as positive, such as height and slimness.The baggy pants thing did start by emphasising something that [the hip-hop subculture of] society regards as positive: street cred.

The vanguard of the fashion were very poor kids wearing hand-me-downs that they were a long way from growing into. Emulating these kids was a way of telegraphing "I'm from the street, I've had a tough life and I'm a tough man," and was mainly adopted by performers.

Once the performers cottoned on to it, it quickly hit the mainstream, and purveyors of fashion were quick to embrace and exploit it, which is why the clothesracks are now straining under the weight of shiny, flash "hand-me-downs" with $300 price-tags, and kids get their street cred at the mall with their mom's credit-card.

Brynda
11-27-2004, 12:42 PM
Hmmmm....while your story of how the fashion developed makes sense, I read (sorry, no cite, can't remember) that it started as an emulation of guys going to jail without belts, hence the saggy pants. In fact, I have heard it called "jailin'". Both origins speak to street credibility, though, which definitely makes sense.

Regardless of the origin, though, most fashions are meant to emphasize something attractive on the body. Short legs and what looks like a full diaper just don't do that, for me at least.

Padeye
11-27-2004, 01:20 PM
Maturity means you dress for comfort. If you can do that without resorting to yellow, plaid golf pants then you have it made. Every time I want to make fun of how kids dress baggy today I remember how I did the extreme opposite in the late seventies. Remember tight shorts on NBA players then? There's a publicity photo of John Travolta around the time the sequel to Saturday Night Fever came out. He's in Addidas, knee high white tube socks with school color stripes, itty bitty satin gym shorts - possibly the tightest banana hammock I have ever seen, sleeveless T-shirt thougth not quite a wife beater and a headband. I do not want to use the term "gay" as a pejorative but he makes Richard Simmons look butch. It's enough to make a person who grew up then want to gouge his own eyes out because at one time we thought it looked cool.

Larry Mudd
11-27-2004, 01:21 PM
I read (sorry, no cite, can't remember) that it started as an emulation of guys going to jail without belts, hence the saggy pants.That makes sense of a development of the existing trend towards outsized clothing -- if your pants fit, there's not much of a noticible sag when you leave off the belt.

Regardless of the origin, though, most fashions are meant to emphasize something attractive on the body. Short legs and what looks like a full diaper just don't do that, for me at least.Most fashions, yeah-- but I don't think big baggy pants are the only exception to this sensible rule-- lots of faddish fashions are totally uncomplimentary to the human form.

In the eighties, we had moon boots, those ugly-assed brightly-dyed feather roach-clips girls wore in their hair, plastic jackets with varying combinations of fluorescent pink and green, belts made from telephone cord, wearing mismatched sneakers, socks over pantlegs, all that good stuff.

Then, as now, folks who bought into these fashions were mocked by folks who didn't, but they didn't care because they knew that they were cool. Of course they later came to understand that they looked like total morons and regret any documentary evidence of their sheepish dress-sense that persists, just like the legions of droopy-drawered youth will be embarrassed in another decade.

People who place more concern on whether or not their clothes look good than on whether or not they look popular have always been and will always be spared this embarassment.

Excalibre
11-27-2004, 04:24 PM
For some reason people that think the whole style looks stupid, think that the people who wear it care what anybody thinks...like the guy who came up to my friend and I and told us that are pants were really low, as if we didn't know.

I would also like to say that I do not always sag my pants and I like suits so I am versatile when it comes to my style choices. "Sagging jeans or a suit looking clean when I'm on the scene..."
No. Don't be silly. Baggy pants are a hell of a lot harder to walk with and many wearers seem to need to constantly pull their pants up to prevent their falling off. Especially the ridiculously baggy ones that make it appear that each leg is wearing its own ball gown. It's a lot of trouble to take if you don't "care what anybody thinks." Besides, why would there be rules about what sort of underwear to wear underneith if you don't "care what anybody thinks"? Why wouldn't you just be wearing whatever is most comfortable if you don't "care what anybody thinks"?

Nope. I don't buy it. You might not care what your parents think, but you're dressing in a certain way in order to fit in with the styles popular with teenagers. Being only a couple years out of teenagerhood, I can remember that (though thankfully I never made a fool of myself by dressing like you do.)

I mean, hey, dress the way your peer group dresses if you like. But certain styles look bad. Baggy pants simply look ridiculous and uncomfortable; they deemphasize the shape of the human body.

Good-looking styles work to enhance the shape of the body; men's suits, for example, make the wearer appear taller, and the tie is a vague phallic symbol - they're classic because they emphasize the masculinity of the wearer. Hence the fact that men's suits haven't changed very greatly over the years. A properly tailored suit enhances the shape of the body to make the wearer appear closer to the ideal body shape. In contrast, baggy clothes make the wearer disappear into the mountain of fabric around them, and it's the sort of thing that will seem instantly stupid as soon as its out of fashion.

Of course, fashions come and go, but there's a difference between the fashions that look stupid ten years hence and the ones that still look good. While most women wouldn't dress today like Jackie Kennedy did during the sixties, she's still regarded as a fashion icon. She wore clothes that simply made her look good, and even if the styles have changed since then, no one questions that she dressed wonderfully. Photos of her from forty years ago don't look embarrassing or silly to us now. Hip-hop fashions already look stupid to outsiders; they will seem sillier and sillier as you get older, START.


street credibility
You know, I don't think I've ever seen "credibility" written out in this phrase. It amuses me. :)

Larry Mudd
11-27-2004, 05:36 PM
Good post, Excalibre.

START, something that will eventually become clear to you is the difference between genuine cool and manufactured cool.

Don't think for a second that you and your friends are determining what's "cool." The seamier (no pun) elements in the fashion industry cynically dictate what's cool and what's not, in order to enrich themselves at the expense of vulnerable consumers.

An important strategy is artifically creating value for commercial products that are, by design, intended to become liabilities in the short term, using different techniques for planned obsolescence. The people who dictate the flavour of the month aren't the ones wearing the clothes. These people dress well. They can afford to dress well by getting gullible consumers to dress foolishly. They don't think the people who are wearing their products are cool -- they think they're chumps. The instant a new line is off the shelves and the money's in the bank, the same media cues that convinced you to buy your current wardrobe start telling you that only the hopelessly clueless are still wearing those clothes.

Take a look at what the 'unpopular' characters in teen movies and sitcoms are wearing -- it's not fashions from two years ago, or clothes that were never very trendy. They're wearing the clothes the were held up as trendy a few months ago. It's no accident.

START
11-28-2004, 03:25 AM
Sagging is not just a teenage style, this is how my 31 year old uncle dresses most of the time, 31 people not 13.
He wears a white rag hanging out of his back pocket (not a gang member) but he is also married, has a daughter, owns a house and nice car. His friends pretty much dress the same way, they have silver chains, backwards hats and all that and honestly even all of them being in their late 20's and early 30's look cool to me in their style of dress.
The other thing that is good about this particular style is it identifies you with people because if I see someone else wearing the same type of clothes I am, I can safely guess that we have some things in common, I can tell at the very least that we probably like the same type of music. I have made a few friends because we were dressed the same way and could immediately relate to each other.
I should say that I don't care what certain people think, you know how it is when your with your friends it's like being in your own world with them and people on the outside don't matter to much.
C'mon look at the Goth kids I could say I like the way they look or that they look like freaks but it wouldn't matter what I thought because I know that they don't care one way or another.

Clothahump
11-28-2004, 03:06 PM
Important rule number ONE for sagging your pants:

1. DON'T FUCKING DO IT AT ALL! It makes you look like a total loser. No, you don't look cool 'cause you be jailin', you just look like a frigging braindead waste of skin.

Aaarrggghhhh......

Colophon
11-29-2004, 04:54 AM
START, perhaps you're the best man to explain this to me. (The saggy pants fashion is present in the UK to some extent, but not anything like as much as in American it would appear...)

How low are these pants going? I mean, for there to be a serious risk of your penis popping out? :eek: Whenever I've seen this style of dress, the pants have been riding low, like on the hip bones, with a good two or three inches of underpants showing above the waistband... but surely there's no risk of fallout* unless they're much lower than that.


*Obligatory 1980s joke:
Q: Why shouldn't you buy Soviet underpants?
A: Chernob'll fall out...

Fear Itself
11-29-2004, 09:26 AM
How low are these pants going? I frequently see kids with their waistband below their buttocks, though they hold them up a little higher in front with one hand. I was standing in a checkout line in a supermarket behind one of those bozos, and as he walked away, I burst out laughing. The checker, a seventeen-year-old girl with too many piercings just glared at me, like I was not reacting they way an old geezer was supposed to.

tagos
11-29-2004, 11:40 AM
Actually, the primary rule is -

Knock that shit off, you look stupid. Just pull your pants up. And turn your ballcap around the right way while you're at it.

preach it brother :)

Enright3
11-29-2004, 12:43 PM
Actually, the primary rule is -

Knock that shit off, you look stupid. Just pull your pants up. And turn your ballcap around the right way while you're at it.
I could deal with the backwards hat, but the one that gets me is the one where it's rotated only partially around, or worn sideways. :rolleyes:

ReaperMort
11-30-2004, 12:24 AM
I'd like to show these kids video of "hard" kids from the eighties wearing fluorescent pink parachute pants.

*swish swish* *swish swish* *swish swish*

"Hey, look at this guy. Pretty cool, eh? Tough look, right?"

"That's totally lame!"

"Yeah, well, he thought he looked pretty cool, because cynical marketing bastards in reasonable looking suits that dictate fashion for the mentally challenged have a cruel sense of humour, and never get tired of making really stupid people easy to make out a distance. Say, where you get those pants? Nice."


Larry, I just have to say that this is one of the best things I have ever read on this board.

Thank you.

joyfool
11-30-2004, 01:56 AM
Excalibre now, don't hold back. Tell us what you really feel about saggy pants. Over here, I simply can't tell. ;)

As to the assertion that you can't run in those things, that's true. However, as someone else (I think) pointed out, you couldn't run in skin tight pants during the 70s. And chafing? Weren't those "Hammer" style pants the epitome of that? So, although you might not have been into any of that, the trends do seem to come and go. Faster now then ever before. Therefore, those of us with "wings," flapper dresses or pink Izods and deck shoes in our past, be kind and remember from whence we came. 'Cause certainly, we could be like those people that end up on Maury or Montel needing a makeover because we're still stuck somewhere around '59.

Lastly START, I'm sure you look fine in the context in which you hang out. Perhaps not so much if you were at a Presidential dinner. Guess I just don't have any problem with that (and man, should you see some of *my* pictures from high school!) and think it looks kinda cool. If, and I stress that, your jeans don't fall below your but or at your knees. Then everything's good. Not to mention, as a female who tends to being overweight upon occasion, I can understand the desire to be covered. This might be why it appeals to some girls. I mean, isn't this better than seeing a 320 pound woman in a belly shirt and low ride jeans? Think about it.

Colophon
11-30-2004, 07:04 AM
I frequently see kids with their waistband below their buttocks
:eek:

Got pics? Er, I mean, I have to see just how ridiculous that looks. Are there any photos around of the saggers out and about (as it were)..?

Profane
11-30-2004, 08:13 AM
Who cares if someone wants to wear saggy pants and backwards hats? The style's been around for 15+ years, and it doesn't seem to be going anywhere. It's the way a subculture chooses to dress, so be it.

God forbid people should dress the way they want to, and not the way you think they should be. :rolleyes:

Anaamika
11-30-2004, 11:47 AM
As an aside, Exgineer, I may quite possibly be in love with you. :D

He's mine. :snarls:

He just doesn't know it yet. :p

*kidding, kidding. I'm not stalking exgineer, honestly.*

START
12-05-2004, 01:36 AM
The only reason I am bumping this is that a doper asked how low people wear their pants and I haven't been able to respond until today.
It is very rare for people to wear the front of their pants below their penis, atleast among people I know but some people will wear them with the waist big enough that if they dont have a belt they easily fall below weiner level, as is the case with my brother when he had the sweatshirt over his head the pants went down and his uknowhut came out :smack: .

Cartooniverse
12-05-2004, 08:39 AM
What I want to know is: what about chafing?....I hear Gold Bond Powder is good.


I use it early and often. Good for what ails ya. And, I am getting the feeling that it is completely impossible for a guy with a belly and a tire around his waist to find pants that are not totally baggy. I don't mean falling down baggy. Don't cotton to that look one bit. But I had a conversation with a female who informed me that men are incapable of shopping for pants that are snug enough in the butt for most women's tastes. I informed her that pants that would be that snug would be a nightmare on a body type like mine. ( Not apple, not pear....more akin to..... watermelon-shaped ).

Should I worry about the baggy-assed pants I love to wear? Should I try to shop for more snug pants? Should I find other things to worry about?
:dubious:

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