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Argent Towers
05-22-2006, 08:20 PM
I realize that Casino Royale is already almost done. I realize that Pierce Brosnan and other Bond actors have endorsed Craig's performance. I also realize that this thread is going to get me a lot of hate because Craig is already popular, has impressed people in Layer Cake and Munich, and is garnering a lot of support in response to people like me. However, I simply do not believe Daniel Craig is suited to the role of Bond. And it is because he is simply not handsome enough.

Look at this enhanced image. (http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/8071/craigvscraig800x3445ry.jpg) This is an image that some trickster created, showing what Daniel Craig would have to look like to portray James Bond, and then comparing that enhanced face to his actual face. A cheap trick, yes. But he is right on the money. The face that he digitally created is symmetrical and even and looks unquestionably handsome. Craig looks like a troll next to him.

Many, many, many people on IMDB, a horrible forum but the only comprehensive one when it comes to movies, are rallying in support of Craig and shooting down anyone who claims what I am claiming, which is that Craig is not good-looking enough. I believe that the number one reason for this defense of Craig is that most of the male posters are too ashamed to admit that another man can be handsome. They're too ashamed to admit that Pierce Brosnan is handsome. To do so would make them "gay." Therefore they're going with the ugly duckling so as not to be accused of admiring another man's features.

I am as straight as a man can be, but I am fascinated in an aesthetic sense by the features of both men and women. I have no problem discussing men in terms of their physical attractiveness, and I have no shame about saying that a man is sexy looking or handsome. Pierce Brosnan is handsome. He looks like he could seduce a woman with his looks. Not with his charm or his confidence, with his LOOKS.

Daniel Craig looks like Vladimir Putin. He has droopy eyes and looks like he is sad all the time. He looks Russian. He also looks awkward in a suit. I have seen a million pictures of him in tuxes and suits linked to by people saying "CRAIG IS HOTTTT!!!" - he looks awful and weird in a damn suit! He has a great body, I admit this. He is rugged looking, and he looks good without a shirt on. But Bond needs to look good in evening wear. I don't know what it is about this picture (http://show.idnes.cz/foto.asp?c=A060517_160757_show_aktual_kot&r=show_aktual&styl=zoom&foto=KOT13109a_kva_bond_02.jpg) of Daniel Craig but he just does not look right at all - maybe his head is too small or his shoulders too broad, I don't know, but he just doesn't look right. And I've seen many others and I can say the same thing about nearly all of them.

Daniel Craig's face looks good in some pictures, but there are many pictures in which it does not look good - in action, for instance, he looks strained and craggy and not handsome, whereas Brosnan looked good all the time. His face kept looking good no matter what he was doing in the movies.

A lot of people are saying that Daniel Craig is the best choice because Ian Fleming described James Bond as looking like Hoagy Carmichael, and Daniel Craig supposedly resembles Hoagy Carmichael. These people are completely insane. (http://geoffreybaird.com/images/hoagy.jpg) Hoagy Carmichael does not even remotely resemble Craig - he much more closely resembles Sean Connery, who had the dark looks and the traditionally handsome face suited to portraying Bond.

I know this is a controversial issue - in fact, the very controversy surrounding it proves my point. How can a man whose attractiveness is being debated by hordes of people portray James Bond? Nobody debated whether Pierce Brosnan was handsome enough to take the role! I realize, as I said before, that the movie's basically already done, and that this is crying over spilt milk. I still resent their choice of Craig.

Sir Rhosis
05-22-2006, 09:01 PM
I'm as straight as straight can be, and have no problem saying a man is good-looking.

Having said that, I think the unaltered pic of Craig is far-better looking than the computer mock-up.

Hate to sound crass, but Craig is Bond. Deal with it.

Best,

Sir Rhosis

Menocchio
05-22-2006, 09:16 PM
I think the support for Craig is coming from fans of the novels, where Bond is more obviously not a nice man. He's the kind of guy that, if M told him to, would shoot you right in the face, screw your wife, and then shoot her right in the face. From the previews, it definitely looks like the upcoming Casino Royale is leaning in that direction.

He's a bad man, albeit one on our side. Not the debonair playboy adventurer that the films seem to be portraying. It helps if the actor, while handsome, looks a bit meaner and like he has a few inner demons. Craig just plain looks scarier than Brosnan or Moore.

You may have a point if this Bond was just making witty comments between stunt sequences, like some of the later moments, but it looks like they're actually trying to make a drama here. For the type of film they're making, Craig just works better.

Menocchio
05-22-2006, 09:17 PM
Although, I admit, the light hair will take a bit of getting used to.

PastAllReason
05-22-2006, 09:18 PM
FWIW, I'll say upfront that I am a heterosexual female.

With that out of the way, I agree with Sir Rhosis that Daniel Craig looks better in the "before" picture than the after. No, he's not as handsome as Pierce Brosnan. Nor from what I've seen does he look as elegantly sophisticated as Brosnan can. But really....who is?

Daniel Craig reminds me of Sean Connery and I'm assuming, Connery's Bond. Personally, I've never found Connery "handsome" either. Very masculine, yes; "handsome" no.

Malienation
05-22-2006, 09:19 PM
It's not so much that you're wrong so much as you're short-sighted. Still pictures don't cut it; it's not enough to look good on a movie poster (although it helps). The right attitude, bearing, tone, and mannerisms are what's important to Bond fans, and Craig proved he has what it takes in Layer Cake (haven't seen Munich. Connery had it; Moore, not so much (don't get me started).

Having said that, I also have to point out that beggars can't be choosers. From what I have heard, there aren't many British actors clamoring for the role. Craig himself had to be dragged kicking and screaming (my guess is that he figured it would be the quick route to being a big name entitled to big bucks even if the movie tanked). Remember, here in the US he is not really known (Layer Cake was well received, but not a hit).

Why are otherwise qualified Brits uninterested in the role? My guess is that they view the Bond franchise as a tired relic they don't want to be a part of, and they feel that regardless of the script they will not be able to resurrect it (the fact that every actor to play the role has been compared unfavorably to Connery doesn't help). Bond is a bit of an anachronism and should be retired. Some might point out that Mission Impossible: 3 is very Bond-like and indicative of what the Bond franchise could be re-established as, but I say, forget it. That ship has sailed.

elfkin477
05-22-2006, 09:22 PM
Which of the past Bonds were supposed to have been handsome? I thought they were going for "rugged."

Sir Rhosis
05-22-2006, 09:27 PM
Really, only Brosnan qualifies as "handsome," with Moore second. Connery and Dalton were rather good-looking rugged guys, while Lazenby was quite horse-faced, though I like OHMSS better than all the films except Connery's first three.

And don't be silly, Argent Towers, we don't hate you, we just disagree with you.

Sir Rhosis

foolsguinea
05-22-2006, 09:27 PM
Disclaimer: I am a straight guy. Also, I think Brad Pitt is funny lookin'. My opinion of male beauty is thus not in line with the vast majority of women in the world. That said...

In the OP's link, Daniel Craig looks much better than that weird plastic image of a James Bond type. More human. Then again, I like sad eyes. I think it fits the character.

astro
05-22-2006, 09:39 PM
You're joking right? You think the bizarre pic on the right is handsome, and the left pic is not handsome enough?

1: I think you really, really need to re-calibrate your estheo-meter. It's seriously out of whack.

2: Why do you think Bond needs to be a pretty boy? Connery was rugged good looking like Craig. Moore and Brosnan were way too model_pretty boy to hold a candle to the Ur Connery Bond as a believable Bond. Craig is way closer to the original Conneryesque Band concept.

Mahaloth
05-22-2006, 09:51 PM
James Bond has no need to be handsome. He is cool, everyone knows it, and that is why it works.

I mean, did you even see Roger Moore in View to a Kill? Sean Connery in Never Say Never?

If Daniel Craig sucks as Bond, it will be if he plays it like Dalton or just isn't suave. His looks are adequate...but is his "cool" adequate?

I like this shot of him as Bond

http://sonypictures.com/movies/casinoroyale/

He jus looks....cool.

Ogre
05-22-2006, 09:57 PM
James Bond has no need to be handsome. He is cool, everyone knows it, and that is why it works.

I mean, did you even see Roger Moore in View to a Kill? Sean Connery in Never Say Never?

If Daniel Craig sucks as Bond, it will be if he plays it like Dalton or just isn't suave. His looks are adequate...but is his "cool" adequate?

I like this shot of him as Bond

http://sonypictures.com/movies/casinoroyale/

He jus looks....cool.Cool, and exceptionally dangerous. Almost sociopathic. Which, of course, is perfect.

Equipoise
05-22-2006, 10:28 PM
Look at this enhanced image. (http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/8071/craigvscraig800x3445ry.jpg) This is an image that some trickster created, showing what Daniel Craig would have to look like to portray James Bond, and then comparing that enhanced face to his actual face. A cheap trick, yes. But he is right on the money. The face that he digitally created is symmetrical and even and looks unquestionably handsome. Craig looks like a troll next to him.

Nonsense. The real Craig on the left is quite good looking, and much preferable than the hideous thing on the right.

What *is* it with anti-Craigers? The sniping and pettiness toward him remind me of catty high-school girls.

Glassy
05-22-2006, 10:30 PM
HOT (http://bluematia.com/snap163j.jpg).


Hot, (http://jlhuss.blog.lemonde.fr/photos/uncategorized/craig_copie.jpg)
hot, (http://bluematia.com/shower2.jpg)
hot. (http://indepundit.com/archive2/newbond.JPG)

I don't give a rat's ass about 007 and probably won't see the movie, but Daniel Craig can come on over to my place any time.

Snooooopy
05-22-2006, 10:32 PM
I think the support for Craig is coming from fans of the novels, where Bond is more obviously not a nice man. He's the kind of guy that, if M told him to, would shoot you right in the face, screw your wife, and then shoot her right in the face.

But if M told Bond to shoot you in the face, shoot your wife in the face and THEN screw her, he would probably hesitate.

Throatwarbler Mangrove
05-22-2006, 11:21 PM
I agree with the OP. I don't understand the appeal of this guy, He doesn't come close to Brosnan in terms of classical handsomeness. He looks like a washed up middle aged Australian surfer, which certainly isn't a bad thing and can be very cool, but it isn't JAMES BOND. I also thought Layerd Cake was an attempted at emulating Guy Ritchie that fell completely flat on its' face.

Obviously, my esthesometer is way out of whack with the hetero-female world. :(

BMax
05-22-2006, 11:26 PM
About the Putin thing: Form certain angles Craig certainly does look slavic. And he really bears no resemblance to Hoagy Carmichael. Of all the Bonds, George Lazenby probably looked the most like him. However, Craig does look tough, and having seen Munich I have to say he has acting chops that Roger Moore never had.
Have you read the Ian Fleming novel Casino Royal? Bond drinks like 20 cocktails and smokes 4 packs of cigarettes in one day of gambling. Craig's face is perfect for that.

lissener
05-22-2006, 11:30 PM
Daniel Craig is 187.5 times hotter than Pierce Brosnan. The OP is Pierce Brosnan's mother.

Marley23
05-22-2006, 11:44 PM
I'm a straight guy and not a particularly big Bond fan, BUT I'll say that I never thought Sean Connery was that handsome. He just thoroughly owned the character.

mhendo
05-22-2006, 11:47 PM
Sorry, OP, i'm going to add my voice to those who think that the original picture of Craig is far, far more attractive than the bastardized version on the right.

Poysyn
05-23-2006, 12:22 AM
I would like to add that (having seen the preview today for the upcoming Bond) and drooled over Craig newly buff bod.

He is hot enough to play whatever he wants.

Or do whatever he wants.

To me.

Anytime.

Elendil's Heir
05-23-2006, 12:34 AM
Methinks the OP is a bit off base. I'm willing to give Craig a chance. Connery owned the role, of course, but each of his successors has put his own imprint upon it (although Roger Moore is far and away my least favorite, particularly towards the end of his run). But I'm one of those who actually thinks that Timothy Dalton did a pretty good job in the role, so what do I know? ;)

Do Not Taunt
05-23-2006, 01:14 AM
Sorry, OP, i'm going to add my voice to those who think that the original picture of Craig is far, far more attractive than the bastardized version on the right.
I read the OP, looked at the picture, and thought, "Yeah, he's right. The real Daniel Craig does look like a troll compared to the modified version." But then again, I thought the one on the right was the original.

Kythereia
05-23-2006, 01:17 AM
I don't understand all the hate, either. He's relatively good-looking, and give him a break--we haven't even seen him in the role, yet. He might be stink, yes, but then again he just might be perfect. Give Craig a chance.

(The same applies to Brandon Routh as future Superman. I idolize Christopher Reeve as much as anybody, but come on.)

cactus waltz
05-23-2006, 01:39 AM
I wouldn't say looking like Putin is a bad thing anyhow. That man has charisma. Something just yells authority and father figure about him.

Anyhow, I think this new bond is a step in the right direction. I only hope they remove the chauvinistic traits, but Craig doesn't look like two-moralling type so it should be good.

Operation Ripper
05-23-2006, 02:17 AM
Well, I saw the trailer this weekend and if you think Daniel Craig (shirtless) is not HOT, I ... well since this isn't the pit I'll keep it clean, believe me he has the best bod since Connery.

MrDibble
05-23-2006, 03:54 AM
A few points:
looking Russian is not a negative in a British spy. I'd say it was more of a positive.
Brosnan was my favourite Bond, then Dalton, then Connery, Lazenby next and finally Moore my least*. I liked Brosnan not because he was handsome (although he was) but because he had, to me, an underlying cruelty. Maybe it's that IRA film of his that influenced me, I don't know...
I think Craig can project that cruelty, but what do I know, I've only seen him in Lara Croft.

* Never seen Niven.

Mr. Wiseguy
05-23-2006, 04:03 AM
Brosnan's my favorite Bond-I always thought Remington Steele was basically James Bond Lite-but I'm withholding final judgement on the Daniel Craig matter until I see the movie.

Taber
05-23-2006, 04:04 AM
Am I the only one who thinks the right Daniel Craig is just the same picture of the left Daniel Craig with the brightness cranked up?


(ok, after close examination, the neck is slightly different, the eyebrows are more focused, and some of his features look a little less droopy, but I really think 90% of the difference is the brightness level)

Argent Towers
05-23-2006, 04:25 AM
My criticism of Craig is about his face, not his body. He looks great shirtless, I admit. So does Ben Stiller. Nobody would ever think of casting HIM, or someone who resembled him, as James Bond. The face is way more important than the physique. Why not get someone who has an amazing body AND has a handsome face?

I don't get the Brandon Routh comparison. On his board on IMDB nobody is saying that he isn't handsome enough for the role. There's no argument about it. It is accepted that he is handsome and that he looks fit to portray Superman.

SkeptiJess
05-23-2006, 07:24 AM
I am no expert on James Bond -- I've only seen some of the films and have only read one of the books. But I'm a heterosexual woman and Daniel Craig is definately handsome, IMO. "Ruggedly handsome" is how I would put it. In that way, Craig resembles Connery (whom I also consider to be ruggedly handsome). Brosnan and Moore are also handsome, of course, but not ruggedly so -- they were both more pretty-handsome. Not that there's anything wrong with that in itself, certainly. But I'd say that ruggedly-handsome is more appropriate for James Bond.

Brandon Routh looks great for Superman, as far as his face goes, but I don't think he's big enough, body-wise. Superman oughta be huge -- like Schwarzenegger-huge. I had the same complaint about Reeve, back in the day.

Argent Towers
05-23-2006, 08:10 AM
I am aghast at all these people insisting that Pierce Brosnan is not rugged. He is absolutely rugged. He has a slightly receding hairline, which on the right guy looks very handsome especially with thick black hair. He has a stubbly face, not a smooth one that you would associate with a "pretty boy." Look at this picture (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/Lor83b/bond.jpg) of Pierce Brosnan and tell me he is not rugged looking. He absolutely is.

A pretty boy is someone like Jared Leto. (http://cestlabombe.com/weblog/suzy/mtarchives/leto.jpg) Look at that face. There is nothing rugged about it at all. He's handsome, because his face is symmetrical - he also has big eyes, which make him look like a feminine Anime character. To give you a less predictable example - Christopher Walken. He has become known as someone who plays scary, weird characters, but in his younger days Christopher Walken was pretty. In this picture, (http://chriswalken.com/graphics/Wal3084.jpg) he even looks a little like Johnny Depp, another example of someone who is pretty and not at all rugged. These guys all have essentially soft features, small noses, feminine lips - they are pretty boys.

I don't see how people can call Brosnan a pretty boy. His face is slightly boyish, but it is still quite rugged. This is why Brosnan was a perfect Bond - he was boyish and rugged at the same time. Charming and rough at the same time. Seductive and vicious at the same time. The character of the film Bond is ALL ABOUT the meshing of these two factors, the charm and the ruggedness. Craig only has ONE of them, the ruggedness, and not the other.

Why settle for someone who only has one, when they could have cast someone who had both?

don't ask
05-23-2006, 08:12 AM
I stopped watching Bond movies, other than on TV, back in the Sean Connery days. My son dragged me along to, I guess, the last Brosnan one and I thought he was pretty good and remember that Fleming said he looked like this (http://hoagy.com/images/pics/early_headshot_sm.jpg).

On the weekend I saw shorts of the new Bond movie (and they looked pretty damn good) but it took me some moments to register that Daniel Craig was meant to be Bond. He seemed very lifeless in the snippets I saw.

Excalibre
05-23-2006, 10:23 AM
Daniel Craig is 187.5 times hotter than Pierce Brosnan. The OP is Pierce Brosnan's mother.
You're on crack, dear. Pierce Brosnan is not my type, but there's no arguing with the fact that he's a very good-looking man.

Daniel Craig, on the other hand . . . if James Bond is supposed to look like Hoagy Carmichael, then he ought to be a reasonably good-looking man. Daniel Craig is not just ugly, he's distractingly ugly. I haven't seen him in any films; perhaps his charisma manages to overcome his seriously painful face. But from all the still pictures I've seen, I've been puzzling over this. Sean Connery was not gorgeous, but he was a reasonably handsome man. Most of the previous Bonds have been. And Daniel Craig looks like he spent way too much time in the sun as a kid. He's not just not good-looking, he's seriously an ugly, ugly man.

Appeals to Ian Fleming's "vision" are nonsense, as this man does not look one iota like Hoagy Carmichael. For starters, Hoagy Carmichael was very good-looking - it's clear that Fleming envisioned a suave, handsome Bond, not this guy who looks like his hobby is bare-knuckle boxing.

I wouldn't see the movie either way, but (yeah, so I'm shallow) this casting would drive me away if I was. It would be distracting to try to watch a movie whose leading actor was that ugly, at least if that's not what the role called for. And incidentally, if I found him in my bed, I'd throw heavy things at him and call the cops. :: shudder ::


I don't understand all the hate, either. He's relatively good-looking, and give him a break--we haven't even seen him in the role, yet. He might be stink, yes, but then again he just might be perfect. Give Craig a chance.

(The same applies to Brandon Routh as future Superman. I idolize Christopher Reeve as much as anybody, but come on.)
What you seem to have missed is that the OP is arguing that the dude's looks are wrong for the role. That can happen. For instance, I'd argue that Chris Farley's looks are wrong for the role of James Bond. The best acting in the world won't fix it if the actors are physically unbelievable.

Incidentally, the wussy-looking dude they cast as the new Superman makes me pretty disinclined to see that, and that's a film I would see otherwise. If you cast people who are physically inappropriate for their parts, your movie will simply not work.



I don't get the Brandon Routh comparison. On his board on IMDB nobody is saying that he isn't handsome enough for the role. There's no argument about it. It is accepted that he is handsome and that he looks fit to portray Superman.
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Snickers
05-23-2006, 10:36 AM
Says you.

I like Daniel Craig - I think he's a fine actor and a damn good looking one, at that. I think he'll do well. He's certainly got menacing down to a fine art.

Cat Jones
05-23-2006, 10:53 AM
Well I'm another who was throuroughly confused about the two pictures in the OP. Confused both about the brightness levels and which was 'before' which 'after'.

Another female of the hetero persuasion and I say give him a chance - a lot of Bond is in his voice not just his looks. Dalton just didn't cut it with that breathy whisper thing he did - Brosnan (my favourite*) could look charming but utter threats with the utmost conviction.

Personally I think he looks like this (http://variety.com/graphics/photos/variety100/mcqueen_steve.jpg) guy (http://yoursdaily.com/var/yoursdaily/storage/images/media/images/cinema/steve_mcqueen/steve_mcqueen/17655-2-eng-GB/steve_mcqueen.jpg), which is fine by me, just fine.


*I came to Connery and Moore on the small screen (harbouring a grudge against Moore as I wasn't allowed to go to the cinema with my dad and brother to see For Your Eyes Only), they've always been there and I can't be objective about them - they were the guys who played Bond on telly. OHMSS is almost too different for me to see it as a Bond film.

Ceejaytee
05-23-2006, 12:28 PM
Brosnan and Connery tie (so far) for best Bond. Connery brought him alive on the screen, and then he became a bit of an action joke, and then Brosnan took him places he'd never been. I've seen Daniel Craig in Layer Cake and in Munich and he was terrific in both. I think he'd be a great Bond, though I'm sorry they decided to drop Brosnan because he really was fantastic.

I don't think "handsome" is a Bond requirement. Sexy is though, and Brosnan, Connery, and Craig are all that. Roger Moore never struck me as sexy. That being said, on the handsome scale, I think it's Brosnan, Craig, Connery. Sean Connery got better looking as he got older though.

lisacurl
05-23-2006, 12:52 PM
Daniel Craig is hot. I'm sick of pretty boy Bonds. If they are going to a rougher, more violent, less winkwinknudgenudge Bond installment, I'll be one of the first to buy a ticket. They were getting ridiculously cartoonish. And Pierce Brosnan was WAY TOO OLD to continue playing Bond.

SkeptiJess
05-23-2006, 01:34 PM
Good call, Cat Jones -- Craig does look alot like Steve McQueen!

Personal tatse is a funny thing, isn't it? I cannot imagine anyone thinking Daniel Craig is ugly!

RickJay
05-23-2006, 01:42 PM
Daniel Craig is hot. I'm sick of pretty boy Bonds. If they are going to a rougher, more violent, less winkwinknudgenudge Bond installment, I'll be one of the first to buy a ticket. They were getting ridiculously cartoonish. And Pierce Brosnan was WAY TOO OLD to continue playing Bond.
If you want good cartoonish action movies, the Mission Impossible series got a lot better with the latest installment. Ethan Hunt can serve as the cartoony action hero. It'd be nice to have a James Bond who is, as Ogre suggests, just a little bit of a cold-hearted sociopath.

Talon Karrde
05-23-2006, 01:45 PM
James Bond has no need to be handsome. He is cool, everyone knows it, and that is why it works.

I mean, did you even see Roger Moore in View to a Kill? Sean Connery in Never Say Never?

If Daniel Craig sucks as Bond, it will be if he plays it like Dalton or just isn't suave. His looks are adequate...but is his "cool" adequate?

I like this shot of him as Bond

http://sonypictures.com/movies/casinoroyale/

He jus looks....cool.
Cat Jones beat me to it, but he looks like Steve McQueen in that picture. And I can definitely see McQueen as a Bond.

Excalibre
05-23-2006, 01:50 PM
Cat Jones beat me to it, but he looks like Steve McQueen in that picture. And I can definitely see McQueen as a Bond.
Now I just think he looks ridiculous in that picture. It looks like the poster from a cheesy horror flick.

pravnik
05-23-2006, 06:04 PM
Many, many, many people on IMDB, a horrible forum but the only comprehensive one when it comes to movies, are rallying in support of Craig and shooting down anyone who claims what I am claiming, which is that Craig is not good-looking enough. I believe that the number one reason for this defense of Craig is that most of the male posters are too ashamed to admit that another man can be handsome. They're too ashamed to admit that Pierce Brosnan is handsome. To do so would make them "gay." Therefore they're going with the ugly duckling so as not to be accused of admiring another man's features.
I'm straight, but I have no problem with saying another man is handsome. I think Daniel Craig is quite handsome. I know you probably don't believe me, so I would be completely willing to kiss him to prove it to you, even though I am, as I said, emphatically not gay. Not at all.

I probably wouldn't want to talk to him later when my friends are around, though. Actually, that would probably be really awkward. So maybe I wouldn't. Look, let's just forget I said anything, okay?

foolsguinea
05-23-2006, 07:10 PM
OK, so the OP likes men with dark hair & big square jaws. Whatever. I like Craig's droopy pale eyes, lean cleft chin, strong nose, & general blondness. Not quite what I think of as "Bond" (in my mind, James looks like a mix of Timothy Dalton, Sean Connery, & various random elements) but not unattractive for an action star. And hey, as a straight guy, I like my action stars heroically handsome.

So let's admit that the issue with Craig is that he's just different looking & go on. I can live with it; he looks a bit like he could be a Ian Fleming relative.

Terrifel
05-23-2006, 07:34 PM
Look at this enhanced image. (http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/8071/craigvscraig800x3445ry.jpg) This is an image that some trickster created, showing what Daniel Craig would have to look like to portray James Bond, and then comparing that enhanced face to his actual face. A cheap trick, yes. But he is right on the money. The face that he digitally created is symmetrical and even and looks unquestionably handsome. Craig looks like a troll next to him.I'm pretty sure that guy on the right has already starred in a few movies. (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0783225520.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)

Cat Fight
05-23-2006, 07:35 PM
I don't really care for Bond movies, but will definitely be going to see Casino Royale because of both Craig's hotness/talent and because the trailer just looks so damn cool. I think the whole franchise was just getting too slick with Brosnan in the role. This Bond looks like he'll stain his shirt a bit.

PunditLisa
05-23-2006, 08:30 PM
I confess I've never read the Fleming novels so I don't know what the tone of the novels are. However, I do know that the Bond movies are marketed as action adventures: dramatic yet a bit campy. To me, it's a European version of a "Raiders of the Lost Ark" type movie. (Or vice versa)

The reason I prefer Sean Connery as Bond above the much better looking Brosnan (who is drop-dead gorgeous) and the somewhat better looking Moore, is that Connery had a tongue-in-cheek attitude, a twinkle in his eye, that was absent in the other two. The attitude and sense of humor was what made Bond sexy.

As far as Craig goes, the jury is still out for me. Yeah, he's not particularly handsome, but neither was Harrison Ford. And I think we can all agree that Indiana Jones was a very cool character.

meara
05-23-2006, 10:50 PM
I'm still sad that they didn't give the part to Hugh Jackman. He would have been perfect.
http://showbizz.net/uploads/films/jackman.jpg

Argent Towers
05-23-2006, 10:55 PM
Damn right he would have been perfect. Christian Bale would also have been perfect. Clive Owen would also have been a better choice than Daniel Craig.

My first choice would definitely have been Christian Bale, because of his looks and his tremendous acting ability. Many do not realize that he is Welsh and does not speak with an American accent in real life, so a Bond movie would give audiences a chance to see him speak in his natural voice.

Argent Towers
05-23-2006, 10:58 PM
I'll point out one more thing. I watched Layer Cake and was underwhelmed by Craig's supposed bad-ass-ness. He spent most of that movie getting his ass kicked and looking sad and haggard. This may be a testament to his acting chops, but I must say that if it was Pierce Brosnan in the role in Layer Cake, he would have looked like a million bucks even while taking a beating.

Menocchio
05-23-2006, 11:07 PM
My first choice would definitely have been Christian Bale, because of his looks and his tremendous acting ability. Many do not realize that he is Welsh and does not speak with an American accent in real life.
He is Welsh, but he does speak with an American accent. Don't ask me how. Bale's perhaps too tortured to play Bond.

Besides, he's already Batman. Why step down the scale of coolness?

Argent Towers
05-23-2006, 11:10 PM
He is Welsh, but he does speak with an American accent. Don't ask me how. Bale's perhaps too tortured to play Bond.


I don't think this is true. Some people saw Bale in interviews regarding Batman which he did in his American accent to stay true to the character of Bruce Wayne, and assumed this was his normal accent. In the special interviews on the American Psycho DVD he does indeed speak in a British accent.

kidchameleon
05-23-2006, 11:24 PM
But if M told Bond to shoot you in the face, shoot your wife in the face and THEN screw her, he would probably hesitate.

That's why Bond can't hold a candle to Jack Bauer. :p

Elendil's Heir
05-25-2006, 03:12 PM
"I have to shoot your wife in the face and then screw her... OR MILLIONS WILL DIE!" :rolleyes:

Skywatcher
05-25-2006, 03:36 PM
I still think this guy (http://melaniefletcher.com/journal/2004/mar04/gifs/cameron.jpg) would make a great Bond. Not that I have anything against Daniel Craig.

Excalibre
05-25-2006, 03:39 PM
I still think this guy (http://melaniefletcher.com/journal/2004/mar04/gifs/cameron.jpg) would make a great Bond. Not that I have anything against Daniel Craig.
I was hoping for Paul Blackthorne, but that's just cuz he's hot. I'd actually go see a new Bond film if he was Bond.

romansperson
05-25-2006, 04:28 PM
Damn right he would have been perfect. Christian Bale would also have been perfect. Clive Owen would also have been a better choice than Daniel Craig.

My first choice would definitely have been Christian Bale, because of his looks and his tremendous acting ability. Many do not realize that he is Welsh and does not speak with an American accent in real life, so a Bond movie would give audiences a chance to see him speak in his natural voice.

See, this is part of the problem. Craig really suffers in comparison to who else (theoretically, anyway) could have been Bond. I agree that he's not good looking enough. He looks like a Russian hockey player.

I was also disappointed in the selection of Eva Green as a Bond Girl. I know some guys will now come running in to say she's hot as the fire of a thousand suns, but I don't see it, especially in comparison to our last Bond Girl, Halle Berry.

I mean - come on. Here's Pierce and Halle (http://quem.globo.com/edic/118/karen1.jpg). Here's David and Eva (http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0381061/Ss/0381061/Royale_04.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Craig,%20Daniel%20(I)) (and the third girl whose name I don't know). No comparison.

mamboman
05-25-2006, 04:58 PM
I just want to say that I wish I was as "ugly" as Danny Craig. Geez!

mm

Sir Rhosis
05-25-2006, 06:07 PM
Thank God that handsome Ronald Reagan* played Rick Blaine in Casablanca instead of that ugly motherfucker Humphrey Bogart, who we know by his very weird looks could never ever pull off a suave role. Just think how awful Bogart would have looked trying to wear those elegant suits, how he would have been eclipsed by Conreid and Bergman...

Who cares about Bogie's acting ability--Reagan was just so pretty as Rick, wasn't he? And that is what counts.

:rolleyes:

Sir Rhosis

*never seriously considered, I know

cbawlmer
05-25-2006, 06:11 PM
I think straight men honestly have no clue what women find attractive about men. Most women aren't entirely about the physical, though it's a factor. I know what's really smoking hot about a lot of guys is the way they carry themselves, their self-confidence, sense of humor, and a lot of less tangible qualities. I've known dozens of women who were hot for Jeff Goldblum (myself included), but I've never met a guy who wasn't completely creeped out by that. You guys just don't get it, and that's why James Bond gets all the girls and you don't. ;)

That said, Daniel Craig is dead sexy and I'm really looking forward to Casino Royale.

Excalibre
05-25-2006, 07:27 PM
Thank God that handsome Ronald Reagan* played Rick Blaine in Casablanca instead of that ugly motherfucker Humphrey Bogart, who we know by his very weird looks could never ever pull off a suave role. Just think how awful Bogart would have looked trying to wear those elegant suits, how he would have been eclipsed by Conreid and Bergman...

Who cares about Bogie's acting ability--Reagan was just so pretty as Rick, wasn't he? And that is what counts.

:rolleyes:

Sir Rhosis

*never seriously considered, I know
What the hell are you talking about? Humphrey Bogart is not classically good-looking, necessarily, but he's not ugly by any stretch of the imagination.

Further, all rolleyes aside, isn't part of the issue here what's appropriate for the role? Or is it more important that the James Bond franchise be affirmative action for the ugly? It's already been pointed out that he doesn't look much like Ian Fleming's descriptiong of Bond. And isn't Bond supposed to be suave and handsome? Apparently those of us who find Daniel Craig ugly (and hoo-boy, he's got one unfortunate face in my opinion) are in the minority, and you're welcome to disagree and think he's attractive. But arguing that James Bond could equally be played by an ugly actor is simply nonsense.

SlickRoenick
05-25-2006, 10:30 PM
Isn't Hoagy the dude who wrote the piano ditty called "Heart & Soul" or something like that?

iluvurmom
10-27-2006, 04:17 PM
oh my I can't wait for this movie...I just started playing the strategy game, and I can't stop, has anyone else played it?

here is the link: http://sonypictures.com/movies/casinoroyale/strategygame/

Flea
10-27-2006, 04:47 PM
On looks alone, which seem to be the pertinent argument, I think he's handsome enough. Someone like Jack Black? Not handsome enough. Adam Corolla? Not handsome enough. Steve Buscemi? While a fine actor, also not handsome enough. Craig is very handsome, just not in the way we've been trained to think of a Bond. I can understand saying his looks don't fit the part, but the aggressivness of saying he doesn't have them at all is trying to cover up the sun with a finger, and smacks of an incomprehensible bitterness towards the man.

Infovore
10-27-2006, 04:59 PM
I knew I'd seen this guy somewhere before!

Daniel Craig (http://imdb.com/gallery/ss/0381061/Ss/0381061/Royale_04.jpg.html?hint=group) and "What Not To Wear"'s Clinton Kelly (http://groups.northwestern.edu/aoproductions/speakers/spring06/clinton.jpg), separated at birth!

Hey, at least Daniel's evil twin (or would Clinton be the good twin?) can give him tips on how to dress the part!

Guinastasia
10-27-2006, 04:59 PM
Apparently, Ewan McGregor (yes, I know I'm obsessed!) was their first choice, but he turned it down because he didn't want to be tied down to one role for so long.

Can't say I blame him.

Stranger On A Train
10-27-2006, 05:07 PM
What the hell are you talking about? Humphrey Bogart is not classically good-looking, necessarily, but he's not ugly by any stretch of the imagination.Bogie was short, had a lisp and a slack face from a Navy injury, buck teeth, and wore a rug. He's certainly no Gregory Peck; heck, he isn't even Robert Mitchum. If he hadn't had more style than the Rat Pack combined and the good luck of being cast in a couple of high grossing pictures, he would have been stuck in the gangster sidekick role for his career, and he sure wouldn't have had Lauren Bacall on his arm.

Further, all rolleyes aside, isn't part of the issue here what's appropriate for the role? Or is it more important that the James Bond franchise be affirmative action for the ugly? It's already been pointed out that he doesn't look much like Ian Fleming's descriptiong of Bond. And isn't Bond supposed to be suave and handsome?Your still stuck in the paradigm of thinking of Bond as being this foppish dandy surrounded by auto-parody non-suspense action of the Moore years. For better or worse (IMHO the former), EON has decided to reinvent Bond as a serious, intense, brutal troubleshooter in the mold of Fleming's literary vision (albeit, still with some cool action sequences). It's not "affirmative action,"--nobody is going to get the role because he's pitifully ugly--but selecting an actor that can pull that off, and Craig can do it in spades.

As for Craig's alleged ugliness, I have talking money that says he could walk into a bar and successfully angle in on the most gorgeous dame in the place while you're still putting in your drink order. I think he's got something better than a pretty face; he has charisma; the sort of thing that allows a "funny looking midget" like Al Pacino to drive women wild.

Stranger

Gordon Urquhart
10-28-2006, 01:35 AM
As for Craig's alleged ugliness, I have talking money that says he could walk into a bar and successfully angle in on the most gorgeous dame in the place while you're still putting in your drink order. I think he's got something better than a pretty face; he has charisma; the sort of thing that allows a "funny looking midget" like Al Pacino to drive women wild.

Stranger

Hear, hear. Craig has got "it," and it's about time that James Bond looked like he could kick someone's ass. He's been a prissy fop for two and a half decades.

LorieSmurf
10-28-2006, 06:17 AM
I think straight men honestly have no clue what women find attractive about men. Most women aren't entirely about the physical, though it's a factor. I know what's really smoking hot about a lot of guys is the way they carry themselves, their self-confidence, sense of humor, and a lot of less tangible qualities. I've known dozens of women who were hot for Jeff Goldblum (myself included), but I've never met a guy who wasn't completely creeped out by that. You guys just don't get it, and that's why James Bond gets all the girls and you don't. ;)



That says it for me right there. I'm not a James Bond fan by any means. I think I saw a couple of movies, but don't remember them, I don't go out of my way to ever see them at the theater or even rent them on DVD. But I will probably rent Casino Royale and watch it, because Daniel Craig is very hot and has that certain something that I want to see in action.

By the way, I think Jeff Goldblum is a babe. Especially in Earth Girls are Easy . Yum! :p

Stranger On A Train
10-28-2006, 09:11 AM
Hear, hear. Craig has got "it," and it's about time that James Bond looked like he could kick someone's ass. He's been a prissy fop for two and a half decades.Hey now; Timothy Dalton (The Living Daylights, License To Kill) could look pretty ruthless. 'Course, he starred in two of the lowest grossing Bond movies and disappeared without a trace, so few people even remember who he is. (Despite this, The Living Daylights ranks near the top of my listing of Bond films, along with On Her Majesty's Secret Service and the little adored From Russia With Love.) But yeah, I kept working that Roger Moore was going to keel over at any time after Moonraker, and Brosnan looked like someone could break him like a twig. (He was great as the anti-Bond in The Taylor Of Panama, though.)

Stranger

Gala Matrix Fire
10-28-2006, 10:13 AM
So we're moving away from a James Bond who appeals to straight women and moving towards a James Bond who appeals to straight men?

Stranger On A Train
10-28-2006, 11:04 AM
So we're moving away from a James Bond who appeals to straight women and moving towards a James Bond who appeals to straight men?Bond has always been about what guys wish they could be in order to attract the kind of women Bond attracts, i.e. slightly dangerous, mildly unhinged, intially sexually aggressive but ultimately submissive ("Oh, James!"). During Moore's tenure, however, Bond descended into characture or worse, and that includes his interaction with the babes; I mean, it's pretty creepy that he was putting moves (and getting reciprocation) from girls young enough to be his granddaughters. Plus, the women of the Moore movies were pretty lame as well. Barbara Bach, Britt Ekland, and Tanya Roberts had nothing on real Bond babes like Ursula Andress, Luciana Paluzzi, and the exceptional Dame Diana Rigg. At least the Brosnan-era films had this going for them; Famke Janssen, Izabella Scorupco, Sophie Marceau were great Bond girls, and Michelle Yeoh singlehandedly saved Tomorrow Never Dies from the budget bin. (We'll conveniently ignore Teri Hatcher, Denise Richards, and the decorative but excreable Halle Berry.)

Find me five women who find the Bond-era Roger Moore to be the exemplar of manly attractiveness. He was perfect for the foppish, winkingly self-aware Simon Templar, but he was about as far from the archtype Bond as Woody Allen.

Stranger

UntouchedTakeaway
10-28-2006, 11:11 AM
Weighing in late here, but I think Craig is hotter than snot and will do perfectly.

Brosnan/Dalton were *too* pretty if you ask me.

VCNJ~

whiterabbit
10-28-2006, 12:36 PM
I thought he looked way hotter in a preview than he does in the pictures posted here. Whatever it is, it doesn't translate to still pictures for me, but in action...whoa. *fanning self*

I have no idea if I'll see the movie or not, but I was impressed.

Dunderman
10-28-2006, 12:43 PM
Apparently, Ewan McGregor (yes, I know I'm obsessed!) was their first choice, but he turned it down because he didn't want to be tied down to one role for so long.I adore Ewan McGregor (Moulin Rouge, Big Fish, even the Star Wars prequels - he's great) but I don't think I'd like the Bond he'd make.

I know a lot of people have said this, but... Argent Towers, are you saying you actually prefer the freak to the right in this picture (http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/8071/craigvscraig800x3445ry.jpg)? It looks like the edited monstrosity it is.

supervenusfreak
10-28-2006, 02:11 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I am ready to see this scene (http://jamesbond.de/assets/images/craig-bond-set2.jpg)
in the new flick. Major Hotness!

lissener
10-28-2006, 02:37 PM
Of all the guys that have ever played Bond, Daniel Craig is the first one that makes me horny, baby. The OP is flat wrong.

levdrakon
10-28-2006, 11:55 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I am ready to see this scene (http://jamesbond.de/assets/images/craig-bond-set2.jpg)
in the new flick. Major Hotness!It's what separates him completely from prior Bonds except maybe Connery. Whole-body hot, not just neck-up good-looking in a tux please-don't-bother-taking-anything-else-off.

Rubystreak
10-29-2006, 12:17 AM
First of all, Daniel Craig does (http://peermusic.com/images/hoagy4small.jpg) look like Hoagy Carmichael. A lot. He has a broader face but the resemblance is definitely present. Far more than Carmichael resembles Pierce Brosnan, for sure. And Craig looks nothing like Vladimir Putin. I don't see that at all.

Second, he is not classically handsome but he is terrifically hot. Trust me on this, Argent Towers. You might not see it, but I've had it for him since Layer Cake. And he is JACKED for this role. Wow.

Give the guy a chance. Or don't. But don't call him ugly, or Russian, or whatever it is you're on about. He's going to be fine.

sneezy5660
10-29-2006, 02:20 PM
I saw Daniel Craig on the cover of Entertainment, and wondered why they cast Alfred E. Newman as James Bond. Seriously, he looks like Abraham Lincoln and Tommy Lee Jones had a love child. For the record, I am a straight female and I think Sean Connery and Tommy Lee Jones are hotties!

Lust4Life
10-29-2006, 04:44 PM
From the day he was chosen to be 007 there has been a concerted slag off campaign against Craig, only since reading this thread have I realised that he was in "Layer Cake "Wow what a movie ! if you haven`t seen it do your self a treat and do so !Though I knew nothing at all, and cared less about him the strange way he was getting attacked in the press when the bloody film was only even being THOUGHT about aroused my suspicions .I would not faint away with astonishment if its sour grapes from the person who didn`t get the part or simply somebody who doesn`t like him !

Lust4Life
10-29-2006, 04:57 PM
Perhaps its an attempt to make Bond more realistic,I would suspect that a Secret Intelligence Service agent might look more rugged then good looking .Female undercover British soldiers working in Ulster during "the troubles " were instructed if too pretty, to "put a few pounds on, "cos we want you looking at the terrorists and not the terrorists looking at you !"I qoute.

Argent Towers
10-29-2006, 04:58 PM
The fact that people are even arguing about it at all proves my point. Nobody, NOBODY, argued that Pierce Brosnan wasn't handsome enough to play James Bond. A few people maybe thought he was too "pretty." There was nobody calling him ugly.

I personally think that whoever plays James Bond should be unquestionably handsome. With Craig, there is a huge question over whether he's handsome enough. Sure, there a lot of people here saying that he's sexy, and that's understandable because I can absolutely see how he is sexy. He has a rough around the edges look, and plenty of women like it.

But why not have someone rough around the edges AND classically handsome? Why not have someone with a creased, grizzled, stubbly face, AND thick black hair and a strong chin? Why not have the best of both worlds?

Has anyone seen the Irish movie Dead Man's Shoes? Remember Gary Stretch, who played the gangster Sonny? THERE is someone who looks like James Bond. Thick, black hair in a perfect widow's peak, a strong, chin, grizzled stubbly face, slightly graying, and an incredible vitality and energy in his eyes. He looks like a combination of George Clooney and Tom Selleck. Yes, folks, it's possible for someone to be classically handsome and rough-around-the-edges at the same time. Why have only the latter when you could have both?

Cartooniverse
10-29-2006, 05:19 PM
Cool, and exceptionally dangerous. Almost sociopathic. Which, of course, is perfect.

Having read all of the orignal Bond books as a kid, I can agree with this. James Bond is an angry, focused, sociopathic ( sociopathological ?? ) killer who happens to be rather patriotic.

His cool comes from his anger, which is honed and crisp not distorting and blurry rage. He's been hurt, lost love and has no problem dispatching anyone he is told to dispatch.

Seems to me that this new bloke may be spot-on, as they say.

Cartooniverse

Argent Towers
10-29-2006, 05:25 PM
Having read all of the orignal Bond books as a kid, I can agree with this. James Bond is an angry, focused, sociopathic ( sociopathological ?? ) killer who happens to be rather patriotic.

His cool comes from his anger, which is honed and crisp not distorting and blurry rage. He's been hurt, lost love and has no problem dispatching anyone he is told to dispatch.

Seems to me that this new bloke may be spot-on, as they say.

Cartooniverse

This is all fine and dandy. My point is that a cold, focused, sociopathic killer can also be classically handsome.

Stranger On A Train
10-29-2006, 05:44 PM
Perhaps its an attempt to make Bond more realistic,I would suspect that a Secret Intelligence Service agent might look more rugged then good looking .Female undercover British soldiers working in Ulster during "the troubles " were instructed if too pretty, to "put a few pounds on, "cos we want you looking at the terrorists and not the terrorists looking at you !"I qoute.Totally pedantic nitpick, but if they're agents working in Northern Ireland, they're probably members of the Security Service (MI5) rather than the Bond's employer (MI6). ("'Six" hasn't officially gone by the name of "Secret Service" since WWI, though the name was and probably still is used colloquially. It is, however, not "Her Majesty's Secret Service" as described in Bond canon, but "Her Majesty's Special Intelligence Service," which admittedly doesn't have quite the same ring to it.)

Has anyone seen the Irish movie Dead Man's Shoes? Remember Gary Stretch, who played the gangster Sonny? THERE is someone who looks like James Bond. Thick, black hair in a perfect widow's peak, a strong, chin, grizzled stubbly face, slightly graying, and an incredible vitality and energy in his eyes. He looks like a combination of George Clooney and Tom Selleck. Yes, folks, it's possible for someone to be classically handsome and rough-around-the-edges at the same time. Why have only the latter when you could have both?The idea of Bond being played by Tom Selleck, or even someone who remotely looks like Tom Selleck, is enough to make me shudder.

Again, EON is going for something other than "pretty face, absurd gagdets, and outlandish (and often vaguely swishy) villians." If you take issue with that, perhaps you'd just best avoid the film entirely, 'cause I don't think it's going to live up to the standards set by that great cinematic milestone, Moonraker, must less aspire to the thespian heights of The World Is Not Enough. It's possible that it might even produce a plot and a few scenes that will actually remain in memory for longer than it takes to reach the cinema door, a quality not shared by any Brosnan film. (I remember something about an orbiting satellite and a stealth ship, and the term "African Conflict Diamonds" is wafting around in my head, but I have a hard time seperating the recent films from each other.)

My money's still on Craig to be the first to walk out of the bar with a woman on his arm, Putin resemblance or no.

Stranger

Argent Towers
10-29-2006, 05:55 PM
Everything about Casino Royale looks great. The locations look great, the story looks great, the other actors are great choices. I will definitely see the movie.

Also, I'm totally supportive of the idea of Bond being more rugged, more dangerous, more menacing, and less pretty. 100%. I hate the stupid gadgets as much as you do. And except for Goldeneye (which was a great movie,) the rest of the Pierce Brosnan movies did suck. I will freely admit this.

My only issue is with the casting of Craig. I think they could have found someone who was more traditionally handsome, as well as being rugged and rough looking.

Stranger On A Train
10-29-2006, 06:05 PM
My only issue is with the casting of Craig. I think they could have found someone who was more traditionally handsome, as well as being rugged and rough looking.Well, we'll see how he pans out. You ought to check out Layer Cake, if you haven't already. While the film's a bit of a muddle in bits, he's fantastic in it (as others have mentioned) and I can definitely see him playing Bond with the kind of intensity that Roger Moore or Pierce Brosnan never dreamed of, and even Connery would have a hard time holding a candle to. Plus it has Colm Meaney and George Harris in great scenery-chewing roles as Craig's henchmen; watching Meaney emotionlessly dispatch a couple of wannabe gangsters and Harris beat the living crap out of a former mate who betrayed to the strains of "Ordinary World" are almost Scorsese-like scenes. It ain't Goodfellas, and Meaney and Harris aren't quite DeNiro and Pesci, but they're a fair approximation.)

Stranger

levdrakon
10-29-2006, 06:09 PM
My only issue is with the casting of Craig. I think they could have found someone who was more traditionally handsome, as well as being rugged and rough looking.You know who I think is currently the most "classically" handsome man on TV? Ed Quinn (http://imdb.com/gallery/hh/0703831/HH/0703831/iid_965516.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Quinn,%20Ed%20(II)) who is currently on the show Eureka. To me, the guy looks like a Greek statue come to life. But I have a feeling he doesn't look as good in a bathing suit. Daniel Craig does.

Argent Towers
10-29-2006, 06:11 PM
I saw Layer Cake as soon as it came out on DVD. It was a great movie. I think Craig's acting was good. It's just his look that I don't like.

Cat Fight
10-29-2006, 10:15 PM
I think straight men honestly have no clue what women find attractive about men. Most women aren't entirely about the physical, though it's a factor. I know what's really smoking hot about a lot of guys is the way they carry themselves, their self-confidence, sense of humor, and a lot of less tangible qualities. I've known dozens of women who were hot for Jeff Goldblum (myself included), but I've never met a guy who wasn't completely creeped out by that. You guys just don't get it, and that's why James Bond gets all the girls and you don't. ;)

That said, Daniel Craig is dead sexy and I'm really looking forward to Casino Royale.

Word.

'Classically handsome', to me, just means thick hair and symmetrical features, maybe a smidgen of botox. Yawn. I just can't figure out why so many men are offended by an 'ugly' Bond, especially when he's the first one I know of that's gotten my ladyfriends hot and bothered.

Argent Towers
10-29-2006, 10:32 PM
I never thought Jeff Goldblum was bad looking.

Someone who had his facial features would be much better suited to play James Bond than someone who looked like Craig.

foolsguinea
10-30-2006, 01:10 AM
Oh, is this still going on? OK, Argent Towers, how about this? Should I, every time you resurrect this thread, come on & post,

Daniel Craig is made of SEX,

or what?

foolsguinea
10-30-2006, 01:17 AM
Oh, wait, it wasn't Argent Towers who necro'd the thread. Never mind.

But there's a quality that Craig has, which he shares with Paul Gulacy's (http://mi6.co.uk/sections/comics/st1_review.php3) drawings of Bond, & to some degree with Timothy Dalton. A slighty dirty, craggy, somewhat imperfect, somewhat aged, masculinity. It's not a prettiness, it's a slightly melted not-quite-handsomeness. And it works for the character.

Poysyn
10-30-2006, 11:14 AM
I would jump over my own dear mum to get at him. He may not be "handsome" but he oozes sexiness out of every pore.

He looks like the kind of guy that could convince you to try all sorts of kinky stuff anywhere, which just a raised eyebrow.

Thanks a lot, now how am i going to get through my day?

BwanaBob
10-30-2006, 11:29 AM
I think straight men honestly have no clue what women find attractive about men. Most women aren't entirely about the physical, though it's a factor. I know what's really smoking hot about a lot of guys is the way they carry themselves, their self-confidence, sense of humor, and a lot of less tangible qualities. I've known dozens of women who were hot for Jeff Goldblum (myself included), but I've never met a guy who wasn't completely creeped out by that. You guys just don't get it, and that's why James Bond gets all the girls and you don't. ;)

That said, Daniel Craig is dead sexy and I'm really looking forward to Casino Royale.

I can help you with your question about Jeff Goldblum. Guys don't like other guys who have self-confidence when they have it for no damn good reason, or they're simply conceited.

The Hamster King
10-30-2006, 01:22 PM
Daniel Craig is like Steve McQueen. Mediocre in still photos, mesmerizing in motion.

This is the first time I've been excited by a Bond movie since Sean Connery stopping playing the role.

MovieMogul
10-30-2006, 03:38 PM
Well, at least according to co-star Judi Dench, the H word (http://salon.com/ent/col/fix/2006/10/30/mon/) that best describes Craig isn't "handsome":Dame Judi Dench on the size of "Casino Royale" costar Daniel Craig's manhood: "It's an absolute monster! Maybe I shouldn't have said that. How uncouth of me!"

Hampshire
10-30-2006, 04:12 PM
Daniel Craig is like Steve McQueen. Mediocre in still photos, mesmerizing in motion.

This is the first time I've been excited by a Bond movie since Sean Connery stopping playing the role.

I think you got it there.
The Bond franchise has been going downhill with every new "tall, dark, and handsome" actor they've brought in. And I've skipped them all.
You want "Bond" looking they might as well bring in Ben Afleck, Alec Baldwin, or Tom Cruise (shudder).

Bringing in Craig is like a breath of fresh air. Kind of like "okay, we know what your used to seeing, Hollywood Mr. Suave. But here's what Bond really looks like!" More emphasis on undercover licensed to kill government agent, less emphasis on womanizing prettyboy.

lisacurl
10-30-2006, 04:33 PM
Well, at least according to co-star Judi Dench, the H word (http://salon.com/ent/col/fix/2006/10/30/mon/) that best describes Craig isn't "handsome":
:eek: Oh my. :D

Rubystreak
10-30-2006, 10:38 PM
I never thought Jeff Goldblum was bad looking.

Someone who had his facial features would be much better suited to play James Bond than someone who looked like Craig.


Jeff Goldbum is not classically good looking. He's, in fact, empirically pretty ugly. Daniel Craig is much closer to "classically handsome." This is where you've revealed that you just have a bug about Craig. I mean, come ON.

And when did James Bond need to be classically handsome? He needs to be sexy. And Craig is. If you don't get that, just consider yourself whooshed and move on, is my recommendation. Plenty of other people do get it.

iluvurmom
11-10-2006, 04:24 PM
I actually think he is kind a cute...he is going to Rock in the movie...here are some photos of him looking Handsome:)

http://superherohype.com/news/jamesbondnews.php?id=4871

levdrakon
11-10-2006, 04:35 PM
Many people have mentioned L4yer Cake. I just got Love is the Devil (http://imdb.com/title/tt0119577/) from Netflix. Apparently it's another good film if you want to see *a lot* of Daniel Craig.

I'll be back once I've had a chance to watch it.

Gala Matrix Fire
11-10-2006, 06:51 PM
I have completely changed my mind about this. At first I agreed that Daniel Craig was not handsome enough to play Bond. But since I wasn't going to watch a Bond film anyway, I figured what the hey.
But now after seeing the trailer, I'm thinking, "That man is hot!" and I even plan to watch the first Bond movie I've seen since the early 80's.

Ensign Edison
11-10-2006, 07:47 PM
I'm with lissener. I can't even see Brosnan's face, it's just a big blur. There's no there there. This new guy, holy crap. I'm planning to go out to a Bond flick for the first time since I was a teenager because of what he's doing to just my TV screen. Not appropriate to the role? The hell you say. The problem with Bond became the way he just swaggered through, almost a parody of himself. This guy is fresh and intense. And very good-looking.

Patty O'Furniture
11-11-2006, 07:23 PM
Wow, this thread is already three pages long and I just saw the movie poster for the first time today. The moment I saw it, my eyes locked on Daniel Craig and I said to myself, "now why can't they get somebody like THAT to play bond!?" Then I noticed the way the ad played on the two O's in the movie title and worked in the Bond 007 gun logo just below. Oh, he IS playing Bond! :smack:

Got that? I didn't know it was a 007 ad but James Bond was my first thought when I saw Craig.

After the mistakes that were Timothy Dalton (Boy Bond) and Remmington What's-His-Name Brosnan, Craig is finally somebody who has the Bond Presense.

Cartooniverse
11-12-2006, 07:51 AM
Apparently he's also got the Bond presents.

;)

drm
11-12-2006, 10:30 AM
I've got a strange idea, why don't we wait and see the movie before we determine whether or not he is a good James Bond. From purely a looks perspective, I buy him as James Bond long before Pierce Brosnan. I might have bought Pierce as someone who works for Antiques Roadshow but not for bond.


Craig comes closer to the author's original conception of this exceptionally long-lived male fantasy figure than anyone since early Sean Connery

This is a quote from someone who has actually seen the movie...

The full review can be found here. (http://variety.com/VE1117932077.html)

Love Rhombus
11-12-2006, 02:04 PM
My personal first choice to be the new Bond would have been Colin Salmon, but I'll accept Daniel Craig, especially as the nasty sledgehammer Bond needs to be. I just watched the trailer again: Craig is vicious and indeed sociopathic..but fun to watch.

Argent Towers
11-12-2006, 02:31 PM
Oh, wait, it wasn't Argent Towers who necro'd the thread. Never mind.

But there's a quality that Craig has, which he shares with Paul Gulacy's (http://mi6.co.uk/sections/comics/st1_review.php3) drawings of Bond, & to some degree with Timothy Dalton. A slighty dirty, craggy, somewhat imperfect, somewhat aged, masculinity. It's not a prettiness, it's a slightly melted not-quite-handsomeness. And it works for the character.

I don't understand how you can link to those (awesome) illustrations, which show a man with extremely thick, dark hair, dark eyes, curved eyebrows, a strong chin, and an unquestionably handsome yet rugged look, and then say they have anything in common with Craig.

MovieMogul
11-17-2006, 04:10 PM
Well, I have to say I'm really impressed: MetaCritic has Casino scoring at 80 (the same score as Little Miss Sunshine) and RottenTomatoes at 96%. Everything I've read has been very very good.

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