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Mangosteen
01-13-2007, 12:46 PM
Are there any photos of her around from when she first met John?

Mai Pang was hot.

What Exit?
01-13-2007, 12:47 PM
Are there any photos of her around from when she first met John?

Mai Pang was hot.
Even when she first hooked up with John we was not exactly hot, but she was fairly good looking and apparently very engaging intellectually to John Lennon.

Jim

don't ask
01-13-2007, 12:47 PM
She will be when she burns in HELL!!

Uvula Donor
01-13-2007, 12:51 PM
Not only not hot, but also not very attractive. (http://art.com/asp/sp-asp/_/pd--12151003/John_Lennon_Yoko_Ono.htm)

What Exit?
01-13-2007, 01:03 PM
Not only not hot, but also not very attractive. (http://art.com/asp/sp-asp/_/pd--12151003/John_Lennon_Yoko_Ono.htm)
That is post Beatle break-up. I dimly recall a picture of here in a mini-dress at Apple Studios where I would go with fairly good looking.

Jim

silenus
01-13-2007, 01:11 PM
I would never classify her as anything but butt-ugly. At any time in her life.

bienville
01-13-2007, 01:15 PM
Not only not hot, but also not very attractive. (http://art.com/asp/sp-asp/_/pd--12151003/John_Lennon_Yoko_Ono.htm)

She doesn't look horrible in that pic. You're a bit of a harsh judge.

There was one portrait I saw of her, in which she not only looks not bad but she actually looks in this particular portrait quite beautiful.

There was a special issue of Rolling Stone Magazine, the issue had nothing in it but portraits (photo portraits). The special issue was in celebration of some anniversary, sometime in the early to mid-ninties. It was not a collection of previously collected portraits, rather it was an issue featuring all new portraits taken specially for the anniversary issue. There were, maybe six or seven, photographers who participated, each of whom did portraits of several people from the world of music.

So, this would have been Yoko of the ninties, much older than when she met John. It really was a beautiful portrait, black and white, extreme close-up.

Can't find the photo through Google (I tried "Yoko Ono" "Rolling Stone", "Yoko Ono" Portrait, and just plain old "Yoko Ono"). I did find one black and white extreme close-up, but it cuts the left side of her face. The portrait I remember showed her whole face.

Eutychus
01-13-2007, 01:17 PM
She was to John Lennon and that's all that really matters, isn't it?

Quiddity Glomfuster
01-13-2007, 01:18 PM
In the eye of the beholder. People think this guy (http://images.art.com/images/-/Steven-Tyler---Aerosmith--C10045642.jpeg) is hot (shudder). Not my cup o'tea but I'm likely not his.

In this image (http://johnlennon.it/beatles%20pics/lennon-ono-6.jpg) I'd say she comes off the cuter of the two but again, à chaqu'un son goût.

bienville
01-13-2007, 01:39 PM
She was to John Lennon and that's all that really matters, isn't it?

Most certainly.
Just one of those, "public figures up for public scrutiny" kinda things.
They truly had a fascinating relationship. The fact that the woman chosen by a man who could have had his pick of millions of women, was herself not a conventional beauty adds to the fascintation of it all.

RealityChuck
01-13-2007, 01:39 PM
She must have been very hot when she did the "Two Virgins" cover. ;)

Sam Stone
01-13-2007, 01:45 PM
Never very good looking. But that only raises John Lennon in my estimation. When you can have any number of 'hot chicks', it's nice to see someone not give a damn about looks.

Unfortunately, she was also obnoxious and pretentious. But then, so was John as he grew older.

PunditLisa
01-13-2007, 01:46 PM
The whole granola look is not very becoming, IMO. Of course, I grew up in the 80's where nothing was subte. I actually credit both Lennon and McCartney for marrying women who were not model pretty. It made me believe that they loved them for their mind. Or perhaps it was the drugs.

Liberal
01-13-2007, 01:50 PM
I always thought she was a handsome woman. But I always thought she couldn't sing. If I had to choose between her and bagpipes, I guess my head would explode.

Operation Ripper
01-13-2007, 02:18 PM
butt-ugly

I would wager this term was coined specifically because of YO, as she was both physically, and, unfortunately for Beatles fans, spiritually.

MsWhich
01-13-2007, 02:23 PM
In this shot (http://harmonicslife.net/Blog/2005/JLennon/lennon-beautiful_s.jpg), she isn't so bad. I don't know if you'd go so far as to say hot, because I'm a chick and therefore a bad judge of such things, but I suspect there are plenty of folks who wouldn't have thrown her out of bed for eating crackers.

Spoke
01-13-2007, 02:33 PM
Was Yoko ever hot?

Yoko? Oh, no.

Stranger On A Train
01-13-2007, 02:38 PM
I always thought she was a handsome woman. But I always thought she couldn't sing. If I had to choose between her and bagpipes, I guess my head would explode.Yet another similarity between Lennon and McCartney.

Stranger

Evil Captor
01-13-2007, 03:23 PM
To me, hot has to do not just with appearance, but with attitude. A hot woman likes men and sex (or women and sex, if she's gay). And on both counts, I say "O no" to Yoko. But I never knew her personally. John may have had personal evidence that belied her public persona.

jsc1953
01-13-2007, 04:02 PM
I remember a local DJ back in the '80s saying that he had the pleasure of meeting Yoko once. He agreed that photos of her are not particularly becoming, but in person, she was one of the sexiest women he'd ever met.

Lord Ashtar
01-13-2007, 04:06 PM
I've always found that a plain looking woman with a fantastic singing voice can gain a point or two on a scale of 1-10. Yoko loses a few points in that regard, in my opinion.

lissener
01-13-2007, 04:06 PM
This is why I read CS: for these intelligent discussions on the arts.

lissener
01-13-2007, 04:08 PM
A hot woman likes men and sex (or women and sex, if she's gay). And on both counts, I say "O no" to Yoko.
How in the screaming bloody fuck would you know?

VoodooDoll
01-13-2007, 04:09 PM
I wouldn't say she's photogenic, but I think she looks pretty lovely in this picture (http://new-york-art.com/Yes-Yoko-2.jpg)* from her preformance work "Cut Piece" (1965). I definately think she looks a lot better in motion and in person than she does in still images and that she has aged well.

*this picture is safe for work, but the preformace itself involved her inviting the audience to come up onto the stage and cut her clothing off.

Uvula Donor
01-13-2007, 04:10 PM
She doesn't look horrible in that pic. You're a bit of a harsh judge.


Meh. Whatever. Scroll down and hit the link for the gallery on that page. Personally, I think Yoko's just a few bristles shy of being a beast.

But Lennon saw something else in her and that's all that really matters. De gustibus and all that.

Voyager
01-13-2007, 04:26 PM
I always thought she was a handsome woman. But I always thought she couldn't sing. If I had to choose between her and bagpipes, I guess my head would explode.
Yoko singing accompanied by bagpipes would make a Vogon's head explode. :eek:
Not hot. Mildly attractive thanks to a really good photographer at best.

if6was9
01-13-2007, 04:49 PM
Yoko always had a nice chest... but hot? No. Never. Ick.

alice_in_wonderland
01-13-2007, 05:10 PM
Was she ever westernized "Lucy Liu-esque" hot? No.

Was she ever "Lovely in an uncomplicated way"hot? Yes, I think so.

I also think that she was a well respected artist before she met John, and find the OP sort of odd. It's like asking if Pablo Picasso (http://leksikon.org/images/picasso_pablo.jpg) was ever "hot". No, not really, but that wasn't really the point.

She can't sing though.

Ukulele Ike
01-13-2007, 06:24 PM
It's like asking if Pablo Picasso (http://leksikon.org/images/picasso_pablo.jpg) was ever "hot".

Well, the girls would turn the color of
An avocado
When he drove down their street in his
El Dorado
He could walk down your street
And girls could not resist his stare
Pablo Picasso never got called an asshole
Not like you

-- The Modern Lovers, 1975

Common Tater
01-13-2007, 06:45 PM
Never very good looking. But that only raises John Lennon in my estimation. When you can have any number of 'hot chicks', it's nice to see someone not give a damn...

Well he did ditch his wife Cynthia..

Dunderman
01-13-2007, 06:52 PM
"Butt ugly"? "Ick"? "Just a few bristles shy of being a beast"? Jesus, people, what kind of standards do you have?

Anaamika
01-13-2007, 06:59 PM
In the eye of the beholder. People think this guy (http://images.art.com/images/-/Steven-Tyler---Aerosmith--C10045642.jpeg) is hot (shudder). Not my cup o'tea but I'm likely not his.

In this image (http://johnlennon.it/beatles%20pics/lennon-ono-6.jpg) I'd say she comes off the cuter of the two but again, à chaqu'un son goût.
She's kind of cute-lost in that pic.

The Steven Tyler one is a bit frightening, IMO.

Frank
01-13-2007, 06:59 PM
Was she ever westernized "Lucy Liu-esque" hot?
Lucy Liu's not hot either.

Ephemera
01-13-2007, 07:03 PM
In this shot (http://harmonicslife.net/Blog/2005/JLennon/lennon-beautiful_s.jpg), she isn't so bad. I don't know if you'd go so far as to say hot, because I'm a chick and therefore a bad judge of such things, but I suspect there are plenty of folks who wouldn't have thrown her out of bed for eating crackers.

They're both pretty attractive in that photo and I typically think they're both rather awkward looking at best.

alice_in_wonderland
01-13-2007, 07:03 PM
Lucy Liu's not hot either.

Well, I'm not a Brad Pitt fan myself, but I'm willing to bet that a majority of men probably think that Lucy is a hottie.

Uvula Donor
01-13-2007, 07:06 PM
"Butt ugly"? "Ick"? "Just a few bristles shy of being a beast"? Jesus, people, what kind of standards do you have?
Different than yours, I guess.

you with the face
01-13-2007, 07:23 PM
"Butt ugly"? "Ick"? "Just a few bristles shy of being a beast"? Jesus, people, what kind of standards do you have?

I agree with your incredulousness.

If the pics presented in this thread represent butt ugliness and near-beastliness then close to 90% of the female population must look so horrifying it's a wonder any of us can get laid.

I think she looks quite pretty in all the pics shown so far. If I was in a more catty mood, the worse I'd call her is plain. But even that is too harsh, IMO. Being that I'm a strongly straight women, I don't feel qualified to speak on the "hot" thing. But I see an attractive woman when I see Yoko.

pulykamell
01-13-2007, 07:32 PM
Lucy Liu's not hot either.

:dubious:

silenus
01-13-2007, 07:33 PM
"Butt ugly"? "Ick"? "Just a few bristles shy of being a beast"? Jesus, people, what kind of standards do you have?

Ones higher than her, obviously.

Stranger On A Train
01-13-2007, 07:35 PM
Lucy Liu's not hot either.I have to back up Frank on this one. Michelle Yeoh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Yeoh), on the other hand, could rock my world seven days a week, and twice on Saturday. That is, if she was interested. If anybody wants to pass the message along to her, I'd be grateful...

Stranger

Dunderman
01-13-2007, 07:36 PM
If the pics presented in this thread represent butt ugliness and near-beastliness then close to 90% of the female population must look so horrifying it's a wonder any of us can get laid.Exactly. If you use those words to describe at-worst-average-looking women like Yoko, what the hell do you use to describe women who are actually ugly?

Mangosteen
01-13-2007, 08:53 PM
I have to back up Frank on this one. Michelle Yeoh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Yeoh), on the other hand, could rock my world seven days a week, and twice on Saturday. That is, if she was interested. If anybody wants to pass the message along to her, I'd be grateful...

Stranger

Stranger,

I'll let Michelle know when I see her and when you run into Sung Hi Lee, tell her I'm interested! Here's a photo just in case you forgot what she looks like.

http://askmen.com/women/galleries/model/sung-hi-lee/picture-2.html

RickJay
01-13-2007, 08:58 PM
But I always thought she couldn't sing.
Saying "But I always thought she couldn't sing" is like saying "Well, I always though the Pacific Ocean had a reasonably large amount of water in it" or "But I always thought John Wayne Gacy would be a less than desirable babysitter."

Of course Yoko Ono couldn't sing, and of course she wasn't good looking, and her art is terrible. She was a hipster scene chick of limited-to-zero talent who happened to fall in love with someone really famous and has ridden that like a jockey stapled to Secretariat.

My favourite video of all time is the early one for "Imagine." John Lennon sits at the piano and plays and sings, and Yoko Ono... sits there, looking stoned. Why was she there? Who knows? Well, mainly it was Lennon's own monstrous ego, but can you for an instant imagine, say, Bono just having his wife sit in the middle of the video for "One"?

What Exit?
01-13-2007, 09:00 PM
I always thought she was a handsome woman. But I always thought she couldn't sing. If I had to choose between her and bagpipes, I guess my head would explode.
I found Yoko's singing truly painful and I am a terrible singer. I like good bagpipe music. Think Chieftains.

Lucy Liu's not hot either.
I must strongly disagree with this, I have always found her very hot. Cute face and great body.

Jim

alice_in_wonderland
01-13-2007, 09:02 PM
but can you for an instant imagine, say, Bono just having his wife sit in the middle of the video for "One"?

Actually she does just sort of sit there in the U2 video for Sweetest Thing. Well, I suppose she rides in a car, but same difference.

Sevastopol
01-13-2007, 09:02 PM
...She was a hipster scene chick of limited-to-zero talent who happened to fall in love with someone really famous and has ridden that like a jockey stapled to Secretariat... If I recall it right, she came from the worst demographic of all, the very affluent slumming it for street cred, which has now bred the execrable Paris Hilton and the Strokes.

Carnac the Magnificent!
01-13-2007, 09:41 PM
Yoko Ono looks great here:

http://tshirtwatch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/jennifer-love-hewitt-yoko.jpg

And not bad here:

http://los40.com/imagesbm/fotogalerias/artistas/68853/1607/20051207_175326_3445_ltt.jpg

Sunspace
01-13-2007, 10:03 PM
I think Yoko was quite attractive in all of these pictures, much more so than the picture of Song Hi Lee... because she didn't have all of that frickin' fake shiny makeup on! She looked real, like someone you could actually live with and come home to.

But then I like unconventional Asian women.

Now, as to what she was actually like, and her accomplishments and artistic works, I can't say.

AHunter3
01-13-2007, 10:09 PM
Never had a problem with her looks. And, as others have said, who the fuck cares.

I do find something about her to be unlikable, offputting; it has to do with positioning herself as Cool Trendy. None of her stuff has hit me as genuinely creative, but she's perpetually carrying with her the 'tude of "Oh, look at what I'm doing, I'm so TOTALLY with it". I don't know what it is... but a strong sense of a calculating person looking at her audience very very often, and that the artistry takes a back seat to applause-generation. If she were somehow in a situation where her music and other creativities would not be experienced by anyone else until after her death, my sense is that she would not create anything. Being "artistic" for her seems to me like a means to an end, and it's all about celebrityhood.

Can't defend any of that, it's just a gut impression formed over time.

What Exit?
01-13-2007, 10:16 PM
Two of the better pictures (http://specialsections.absoluteelsewhere.net/LennonLoreLegacy/LennonLore%20Graphics/nutopia_pressconf_clr_lrg.jpg) of Yoko I could find (http://pitea-tidningen.se/image.aspx?id=204860&type=5). I wish I could find a picture of her from around 1969.
Not hot, but not worthy of the 35 years of being called ugly that she got.

Jim

Evil Captor
01-13-2007, 10:16 PM
How in the screaming bloody fuck would you know?

Aren't we

Careful examination of my post will reveal to you that I anticipated your question. I'll repeat myself and extend my answer for anyone who don't get it on the first reading:

With people in the media, there is the public personna they create, and who they really are. They are not necessarily the same. I do not think Yoko Ono's public personna was all that hot. I don't know about her personal self. John Lennon prolly did. That's what I said in my post. Really, it's all there. Read it again and see.

Evil Captor
01-13-2007, 10:30 PM
Well, the girls would turn the color of
An avocado
When he drove down their street in his
El Dorado
He could walk down your street
And girls could not resist his stare
Pablo Picasso never got called an asshole
Not like you

-- The Modern Lovers, 1975

Bit of a nitpick, but Picasso DID get called an asshole, and much worse beside. (http://amazon.com/Picasso-Creator-Destroyer-Arianna-Huffington/dp/0380707551/sr=1-3/qid=1168745077/ref=sr_1_3/105-4318813-1709200?ie=UTF8&s=books) Along with tons of anecdotal evidence.

panache45
01-13-2007, 10:56 PM
. . . but the preformace itself involved her inviting the audience to come up onto the stage and cut her clothing off.
I always wondered whether, as she became more and more nude, people brought back the pieces to cover her up.

dinahmoe
01-13-2007, 11:09 PM
She has a cute face.

woodstockbirdybird
01-13-2007, 11:14 PM
Bit of a nitpick, but Picasso DID get called an asshole, and much worse beside. (http://amazon.com/Picasso-Creator-Destroyer-Arianna-Huffington/dp/0380707551/sr=1-3/qid=1168745077/ref=sr_1_3/105-4318813-1709200?ie=UTF8&s=books) Along with tons of anecdotal evidence.

Another bit of a nitpick (also related to Ukulele Ike's post): The Modern Lovers album was actually recorded in 1973, though not released 'til '76. We music geeks live for such minutiae.

Starving Artist
01-14-2007, 02:12 AM
From the admittedly little I've seen of her (on t.v., not in person), I'd say she looks better now than in the past. I have a vague recollection of seeing her on some awards show over the last few years and thinking that she had turned into a rather 'handsome' woman. She seemed softer, more feminine and more attractive to me by far than she ever did during during her Lennon years.

BluePitbull
01-14-2007, 06:41 AM
Stranger,

I'll let Michelle know when I see her and when you run into Sung Hi Lee, tell her I'm interested! Here's a photo just in case you forgot what she looks like.

http://askmen.com/women/galleries/model/sung-hi-lee/picture-2.html


WOW, she is smokin hot

astro
01-14-2007, 08:10 AM
Yoko One

Little black dress Yoko (http://magnumpr.net/photos/Yoko_Ono.jpg)

Yoko reclining (http://specialsections.absoluteelsewhere.net/GivePeaceAChance/BedInForPeace/BedIn%20Graphics/yoko_moody.jpg)

She's got one of those very plain everday faces where nothing really stands out, or comes together. She's not ugly. she's just plan.

C K Dexter Haven
01-14-2007, 08:23 AM
How in the screaming bloody fuck would you know? Moderator interjects (even if somewhat late): HEY! That kind of language may not be directed against another poster in Cafe Society. You can ask "How do you know?" but "How would you know?" and certainly "How in the screaming bloody fuck would you know?" is out of bounds. That's making comments about the poster, not about the entertainer, and that's neither nice nor called for.

Cool it.

lawoot
01-14-2007, 09:12 AM
I also think that she was a well respected artist before she met John

I don't think so. Very much of the pretencious, "If you don't 'get' my art, it must be because you are too stupid to understand it' school. One of the things that attracted John to her, supposedly - because he 'got it'; and they spent lots of time laughing at the 'squares' who didn't.

Mr. Miskatonic
01-14-2007, 09:35 AM
Bit of a nitpick, but Picasso DID get called an asshole,

But not like you...not like me...

:D

Starving Artist
01-14-2007, 03:29 PM
It's like asking if Pablo Picasso (http://leksikon.org/images/picasso_pablo.jpg) was ever "hot". No, not really, but that wasn't really the point.

I don't know. I know an extremely attractive woman who hasn't been without some guy in her life more than three weeks since she was thirteen years old, and upon seeing a photo of a young Picasso (around mid-twenties, I'd say) in one of my books, commented "Mmm...cutie!"

Caridwen
01-14-2007, 04:32 PM
I don't know. I know an extremely attractive woman who hasn't been without some guy in her life more than three weeks since she was thirteen years old, and upon seeing a photo of a young Picasso (around mid-twenties, I'd say) in one of my books, commented "Mmm...cutie!"

Apparently she wasn't too picky. ;)

Yoko has always been unattractive. But John didn't have much going on in the looks department either.

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