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Argent Towers
05-27-2007, 07:08 PM
Inspired by this thread. (http://boards.academicpursuits.us/sdmb/showthread.php?t=422523)

Some posters are suggesting that there are "good odds" that Lohan goes on to do porn in the near future, due to her being a washed up female celebrity.

Is there any precedent to this beyond male fantasies?

Even Paris Hilton, who we can all agree is the embodiment of the irrelevant, attention-whore celebrity, hasn't actually done REAL pornography. She was in an amateur sex tape, one with horrible visual quality which by no means constitutes an actual porn movie.

Are there any female celebrities who actually have done porn after enjoying a brief career as a sex symbol, then became "washed up" and acquired a reputation as a hard partier? I hear people say "she'll be doing porn in 2 years tops" or variations of that about Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan and other celebs all the time. I personally think it is highly unlikely and that those women have enough money for them to enjoy their high rolling lifestyle without having to turn to porn.

Garfield226
05-27-2007, 07:12 PM
You wouldn't count her as high-profile or a sex symbol, but Jaimee Foxworth (http://nndb.com/people/592/000074370/) who played Judy Winslow on Family Matters eventually made some porn. Not exactly the answer you were looking for, I don't think.

Hippy Hollow
05-27-2007, 07:22 PM
The predictions of A-list and B-list celebs heading to porn is pretty ridiculous. The most high profile porn stars out there (Jenna Jameson, anyone?) aren't even close to notoriety or income, I would expect, to even a C-list star. I doubt things will ever get so bad for Lohan, who has a legit career, though her personal life is a mess, that she'd ever have to do porn. She might choose it, sure, but doing porn closes doors to the "legit" film industry.

The only person I can even remotely connect to the OP is Jaimee Foxworth. (Link is definitely NSFW, careful!) She was on Family Matters (the show with Steve Urkel) and ended up doing porn.

The WWF wrestler Chyna did a porn film as well. (Again this isn't even close to being SFW.)

Dana Plato apparently did softcore porn as well.

Johnny Hildo
05-27-2007, 07:35 PM
Are there any female celebrities who actually have done porn after enjoying a brief career as a sex symbol, then became "washed up" and acquired a reputation as a hard partier? I hear people say "she'll be doing porn in 2 years tops" or variations of that about Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan and other celebs all the time. I personally think it is highly unlikely and that those women have enough money for them to enjoy their high rolling lifestyle without having to turn to porn.


Barbara Payton (http://crimemagazine.com/03/barbarapayton.htm), though not a huge star, became a skid row prostitute near the end of her life, which is probably below "doing porn" on the social disgrace ladder.

Teri Weigel had small roles in legit movies for a number of years before turning to porn.

SkipMagic
05-27-2007, 08:45 PM
The only person I can even remotely connect to the OP is Jaimee Foxworth. (Link is definitely NSFW, careful!)
I removed your links, Hippy Hollow, because, as you warned, they led directly to NSFW images. While we appreciate the warnings, we still want you to follow the "two-click" rule:When posting a link to potentially shocking or offensive material, observe the "two click" rule - don't link directly to the item, but rather to an intermediate page that in turns links to the item. If you can't come up with an intermediate page, you can post the URL and deselect the "Automatically parse links in text" option. This will make a link unclickable. For example:

http://randomnakedimage.com

That way, posters won't accidentally click on the NSFW link and can choose whether to view the image.

alphaboi867
05-27-2007, 09:04 PM
...but doing porn closes doors to the "legit" film industry...

Simon Rex (http://imdb.com/name/nm0005350/), while not an A-lister, did some gay porn before moving on to the "legit film industry" (granted he never had contact with another guy on camera, all he did was strip & masturbate).

Wee Bairn
05-27-2007, 09:08 PM
To answert the OP, no it has not. Actaully thinking it would happen to Lohan, while fun to fantasize about, just isn't gonna happen. Even if she ever ran out of money and couldn't continue to do B list films ala Tara Reid, its not like she couldn't service wealthy Bahrain shieks for much more money than a porn, and without it being put on a DVD.

Lumpy
05-27-2007, 09:12 PM
Even the most washed up actress can usually parlay the remnants of a formerly successful career into something a bit more lucrative than porn. In general porn still has a stigma as the dumpster for wanna-be's and never-were's, and in Hollywood perception is everything.

Boyo Jim
05-27-2007, 09:33 PM
Inspired by this thread. (http://boards.academicpursuits.us/sdmb/showthread.php?t=422523)
...Even Paris Hilton, who we can all agree is the embodiment of the irrelevant, attention-whore celebrity, hasn't actually done REAL pornography. She was in an amateur sex tape, one with horrible visual quality which by no means constitutes an actual porn movie....

I am choking on my own phlegm to find myself in a position discussing the artistry of Paris Hilton. Nevertheless, talented and attractive amateurs making sex tapes definitely ARE real pornography. Usually the best kind. :p

Hippy Hollow
05-27-2007, 09:33 PM
I removed your links, Hippy Hollow, because, as you warned, they led directly to NSFW images. While we appreciate the warnings, we still want you to follow the "two-click" rule:If you can't come up with an intermediate page, you can post the URL and deselect the "Automatically parse links in text" option. This will make a link unclickable. For example:

http://randomnakedimage.com

That way, posters won't accidentally click on the NSFW link and can choose whether to view the image.
:smack:
I think I knew that, Skip... but I guess I forgot during the coding. My bad.

alphaboi867
05-27-2007, 09:38 PM
To answert the OP, no it has not. Actaully thinking it would happen to Lohan, while fun to fantasize about, just isn't gonna happen. Even if she ever ran out of money and couldn't continue to do B list films ala Tara Reid, its not like she couldn't service wealthy Bahrain shieks for much more money than a porn, and without it being put on a DVD.

Unless she does something really bad (like running over a family of four in their own backyard ;) ) Lohan will always be able to do crappy made-for-TV SciFi Channel quality films.

Boyo Jim
05-27-2007, 09:46 PM
As another form of response to the OP, I guess my question to you is, "What is porn?" Is porn the soft-variety peddled on late night Cinemax? The basic rules for them are some nonos on visuals: no penises, no penetration, and I'm sure there are others. If that counts, then Shannon Tweed has, er, straddled that line.

One of those Cinemax series has Tanya Roberts; not actually performing porn, but pimping it as a hostess introducing soft-porn episodes.

I once took a class in pornographic film appreciation at UW Madison. :cool:

Johnny L.A.
05-27-2007, 09:49 PM
I once took a class in pornographic film appreciation at UW Madison. :cool:
Professor: Would you like to watch some porn?

Boyo Jim: I'd appreciate that!

Professor: You get an 'A'. You're on the team.

RandMcnally
05-27-2007, 10:03 PM
As another form of response to the OP, I guess my question to you is, "What is porn?" Is porn the soft-variety peddled on late night Cinemax? The basic rules for them are some nonos on visuals: no penises, no penetration, and I'm sure there are others. If that counts, then Shannon Tweed has, er, straddled that line.

One of those Cinemax series has Tanya Roberts; not actually performing porn, but pimping it as a hostess introducing soft-porn episodes.

I once took a class in pornographic film appreciation at UW Madison. :cool:



Didn't David Duchovny host the "Red Shoe Diaries" or something?

Exapno Mapcase
05-27-2007, 10:05 PM
Louise Brooks is another former movie star who was reduced to prostitution, although Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Brooks) phrases it as that she "eked out a living as a sort of courtesan, with a few select wealthy men as clients."

I wouldn't be surprised if there were many other silent stars who did similar things to make money.

I think the whole "turn to porn" thing comes from two increasingly common events.

One is the 15-minute-of-fame type of celebrities who have done porn, from John Bobbitt to the wrestler Chyna. Others, like Ginger Lynn, have gone back to porn after the lack of success of their mainsteam film careers.

The other is that people are so cynical that they assume that every home sex tape that gets out is a deliberate publicity ploy. Wiki has a whole page of celebrity sex tapes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_sex_tape) listed. Some of those probably were deliberate, which puts a bit of truth to the rumor.

UKCatGirl
05-27-2007, 10:56 PM
Teri Weigel had small roles in legit movies for a number of years before turning to porn.

I had no idea she was a fairly well-known porn star, let alone in legit movies! Her sister was the principal of my high school and I was good friends with her nephew. Weird.

Little Nemo
05-27-2007, 11:03 PM
A few actors had minor mainstream careers before moving into porn films. Janine Lindemulder appeared in mainstream movies like Moving Target, Spring Break USA, and Caged Fury before making porn films. Paul Thomas made a few films, including playing Peter in Jesus Christ Superstar, before going on to make porn films.

Tuckerfan
05-27-2007, 11:16 PM
Grace Lee Whitney (AKA Yeoman Rand of ST TOS fame) did porn after getting booted off the show.

Tom Sizemore has done porn since his movie career seems to have tanked.

dropzone
05-27-2007, 11:25 PM
With a name like "Sizemore," the surprising thing is that the porn came AFTER a real career.

astorian
05-27-2007, 11:58 PM
Grace Lee Whitney (AKA Yeoman Rand of ST TOS fame) did porn after getting booted off the show.




You have a cite for that, of course?

I mean, us.imdb.com doesn't indicate any such thing, but you wouldn't just make that up!

St_Ides
05-28-2007, 12:05 AM
Marilyn Monroe did a "stag" film in 1948, in between real movie roles (well.. After her first film, where her part was cut short and before she got famous)

Seriously. I found a copy of it years ago.

supervenusfreak
05-28-2007, 12:09 AM
I do remember that an actor from "A Christmas Story", the kid who got his tongue stuck to the pole (http://imdb.com/name/nm0777432/) actually went on to do other things with poles...

Walloon
05-28-2007, 12:30 AM
The "Marilyn Monroe" stag movie is bogus — not her, but one of many look-alikes from the 1950s.

Tuckerfan
05-28-2007, 01:10 AM
You have a cite for that, of course?

I mean, us.imdb.com doesn't indicate any such thing, but you wouldn't just make that up!
I've seen ads for the video, but googling turns up nothing, and I don't know where my "Salute to Star Trek" copy of Entertainment Weekly is that mentions the film, but this description (http://dragoncon.org/people/whitneg.html) of her autobiography (http://amazon.com/Longest-Trek-My-Tour-Galaxy/dp/188495605X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-8938551-1974409?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180328836&sr=1-1) makes mention of her decline into "drugs and sex." IIRC, it was softcore.

Adam West was in Lady Chatterly's Lover II after he appeared in the Batman TV series as I recall.

St_Ides
05-28-2007, 01:39 AM
The "Marilyn Monroe" stag movie is bogus — not her, but one of many look-alikes from the 1950s.

Actually, most of the things that featured a naked Marilyn were fake. (The most famous being the "Apple and the Coke")

This one is generally believed to be real. The FBI mentioned it in their investigation of her death. Joe DiMaggio offered the owner of it $25,000 for what was at that time the only copy in existence.

Sam Stone
05-28-2007, 01:42 AM
If you want to include people who were in porn films but not actually having sex, Caligula had a huge collection of A-listers in it, including Sir John Gielgud and Malcolm McDowell. Rip Torn appeared in a porn movie in the 1980's, but in a straight role with no sex or nudity.

Little Nemo
05-28-2007, 02:12 AM
I've seen ads for the video, but googling turns up nothing, and I don't know where my "Salute to Star Trek" copy of Entertainment Weekly is that mentions the film, but this description of her autobiography makes mention of her decline into "drugs and sex." IIRC, it was softcore.Grace Lee Whitney had a number of problems in her life (including alcoholism, drug addiction, and rape) but as far as I can tell she never appeared in an x-rated movie. I think you might have confused her with Angelique Pettijohn, an actress who guest starred in a Star Trek episode and later went on to make x-rated movies.

Johnny Hildo
05-28-2007, 04:37 AM
I had no idea she was a fairly well-known porn star, let alone in legit movies! Her sister was the principal of my high school and I was good friends with her nephew. Weird.

For the record, she was the most annoying porn actress who ever existed. Every scene she was in was a totally insincere display of decibal-bursting orgasmic screaming. Her schtick could not have fooled the n00best of porn n00bs.

priapus
05-28-2007, 04:46 AM
Stephen Geoffreys,the weird kid from Fright Night,does gay porn under the name Sam Ritter

Happy Scrappy Hero Pup
05-28-2007, 05:04 AM
Didn't Alyssa Milano do a bunch of softcore between "Who's the Boss?" and "Charmed?"

Evil Captor
05-28-2007, 05:40 AM
If there had EVER been a mainstream A level TV/movie actress who subsequently did XXX, her name, and images, would be all over the Internets. That's how you can be sure there hasn't been one.

That said, there have been some A movie actresses who have done some hardcore stuff in independent films. Chloe Sevigny in "The Brown Bunny" comes to mind. But this still wasn't a porn film, however willing some people (people on this board, in fact) are to categorize any movie that has sexual content as porn.

There is also an awful lot of 'churn' between porn models/actresses and B movie horror and erotic thrillers.

The closest I can think of to the OP's scenario is Lysette Anthony, who was the Princess in Krull and who would up doing some erotic thrillers that included nudity and sex scenes. I don't mind ... those eyes of her are incredible, I'll watch them in any format.

Evil Captor
05-28-2007, 05:42 AM
Didn't Alyssa Milano do a bunch of softcore between "Who's the Boss?" and "Charmed?"

I don't know about a "bunch" but she was in "Embrace of the Vampire" which featured her naked on a bed having sex with a male vampire, and later with the male vampire and his two female vampires/lovers.

Milano has a WONDERFUL body and an awesome rack, I might add. And do add.

Jonathan Chance
05-28-2007, 08:01 AM
Grace Lee Whitney had a number of problems in her life (including alcoholism, drug addiction, and rape) but as far as I can tell she never appeared in an x-rated movie. I think you might have confused her with Angelique Pettijohn, an actress who guest starred in a Star Trek episode and later went on to make x-rated movies.

Yeah, Shatner, in his 'Memories' series of books mentions she'd ended up as a prostitute for a while after her career collapsed due to drugs and alcoholism. He doesn't mention any porn movies, though.

FriarTed
05-28-2007, 08:29 AM
Simon Rex (http://imdb.com/name/nm0005350/), while not an A-lister, did some gay porn before moving on to the "legit film industry" (granted he never had contact with another guy on camera, all he did was strip & masturbate).

which reminds me of FRIGHT NIGHT's Stephen "Evil Ed" Geoffreys.

Tuckerfan
05-28-2007, 09:46 AM
Grace Lee Whitney had a number of problems in her life (including alcoholism, drug addiction, and rape) but as far as I can tell she never appeared in an x-rated movie. I think you might have confused her with Angelique Pettijohn, an actress who guest starred in a Star Trek episode and later went on to make x-rated movies.
Never heard of Pettijohn and the cover of the video had "Yeoman Rand" on it. Googling turns up paysites that claim to have nude images of her, but I'm not coughing up the cash to find out if they do or not.

Wee Bairn
05-28-2007, 10:42 AM
These says, with 500+ cable networks, most producing at least some original content, many washed up actors make good livings doing shows most of the country has never heard of. Jo from Facts of Life has made a series of TV movies and shows that are unknown to most of the country. Definitley a cute hot chick can get hired to do something legitimate, even if she got blackballed by Hollywood. And even then, independent filmmakers would use her. Robert Downey, though a far superior actor, continued to find work during his drug relapses.

Johnny L.A.
05-28-2007, 11:09 AM
Never heard of Pettijohn...
Here (http://sherylfranklin.com/images/trek/women/classic/shana.jpg) you (http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/a/a2/STGameTrisk.jpg) go (http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/6/61/Shahna.JPG/180px-Shahna.JPG).

Thudlow Boink
05-28-2007, 11:25 AM
I think the whole "turn to porn" thing comes from two increasingly common events.And the third: a past-her-prime star posing for Playboy (e.g. Shannen Doherty, Tiffany), which counts as "doing porn" if you have a really inclusive definition (especially long enough ago when harder porn wasn't quite so easily obtainable).

Johnny L.A.
05-28-2007, 11:25 AM
Wow. I wouldn't consider Angelique Pettyjohn a 'high-profile' actress (unless she's lying down!), but in googling I found a site that has images of her hardcore stuff. www-dot-robbscelebs-dot-co-uk/noops246_18/noops_angelique_pettyjohn.html

Incidentally she died of cancer in 1992 at the age of 46.

GuyNblueJeans
05-28-2007, 05:01 PM
As another form of response to the OP, I guess my question to you is, "What is porn?" Is porn the soft-variety peddled on late night Cinemax? The basic rules for them are some nonos on visuals: no penises, no penetration, and I'm sure there are others. If that counts, then Shannon Tweed has, er, straddled that line.

One of those Cinemax series has Tanya Roberts; not actually performing porn, but pimping it as a hostess introducing soft-porn episodes.

I once took a class in pornographic film appreciation at UW Madison. :cool:

Can you tell us what were some of the titles to the flicks they had you watch. And, too, did they bring any stars in to discuss the subject?

pinkfreud
05-28-2007, 05:07 PM
I once spent several hours researching a similar question. My findings are here (http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=52020).

Darryl Lict
05-28-2007, 05:08 PM
I had no idea she was a fairly well-known porn star, let alone in legit movies! Her sister was the principal of my high school and I was good friends with her nephew. Weird.
Teri Weigel is also notorious for being the first Playboy Playmate to do hardcore porn. I believe that the playmates are contractually not allowed to do hardcore porn, so this was kind of a big deal.

BrainGlutton
05-28-2007, 05:10 PM
The other is that people are so cynical that they assume that every home sex tape that gets out is a deliberate publicity ploy. Wiki has a whole page of celebrity sex tapes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_sex_tape) listed. Some of those probably were deliberate, which puts a bit of truth to the rumor.

I'd bet the Tom Cruise/Nicole Kidman tape was leaked on purpose. It's like, with all those gay rumors, and at that point having had kids only by adoption, he felt a need to tell the world, "See, I do so fuck my wife!" ;)

BrainGlutton
05-28-2007, 05:12 PM
Teri Weigel is also notorious for being the first Playboy Playmate to do hardcore porn. I believe that the playmates are contractually not allowed to do hardcore porn, so this was kind of a big deal.

Interesting. Did Playboy sue her? Could they? I mean, once you've been Playmate of the Month, they can't exactly take that away from you, the copies of the issue are still out there.

Cat Fight
05-28-2007, 06:07 PM
The other is that people are so cynical that they assume that every home sex tape that gets out is a deliberate publicity ploy. Wiki has a whole page of celebrity sex tapes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_sex_tape) listed. Some of those probably were deliberate, which puts a bit of truth to the rumor.

Variety regularly runs an ad from a company claiming they'll help celebs raise their profile by helping them create (!) and market sex tapes, 'accidentally leaked' or no.

Chimera
05-28-2007, 08:15 PM
Teri Weigel had small roles in legit movies for a number of years before turning to porn.

I had no idea she was a fairly well-known porn star, let alone in legit movies! Her sister was the principal of my high school and I was good friends with her nephew. Weird.

Why it's simply amazing that she doesn't have that little bit of information posted up right outside her office! :p

Fiver
05-28-2007, 08:31 PM
Wow. I wouldn't consider Angelique Pettyjohn a 'high-profile' actress (unless she's lying down!), but in googling I found a site that has images of her hardcore stuff. www-dot-robbscelebs-dot-co-uk/noops246_18/noops_angelique_pettyjohn.html

Incidentally she died of cancer in 1992 at the age of 46.Poor thing. I wonder why she didn't jump onto the convention circuit? Just about everyone who had a featured role in as few as only one episode of TOS has managed (it seems; I don't know anything about the economics involved) to eke out a living by going from con to con.

Exapno Mapcase
05-28-2007, 08:56 PM
I'd bet the Tom Cruise/Nicole Kidman tape was leaked on purpose.
What Tom Cruise/Nicole Kidman tape are you talking about?

Poor thing. I wonder why she didn't jump onto the convention circuit?

Hard as it is for people to believe today, there was a time when Star Trek was nothing to the world, except as something to point and laugh at. There were no conventions and no way to make money from the series. It took almost two decades for the phenomenon to begin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelique_Pettyjohn
Pettyjohn's career after the 1960s was less successful, leading her to work first as a stripper, then later to appear in softcore films. By the early 1980s she had appeared in several hardcore films as well. The burgeoning Star Trek fan movement rediscovered her, allowing her to leave the adult industry in the mid 1980s.

Walloon
05-29-2007, 12:30 AM
I remember Star Trek fandom being already big in the 1970s, with national and regional conventions, and several fanzines. The first Star Trek convention (http://members.aol.com/Treknexus/trekgud6.htm), in New York in 1972, was a sold-out success. And Trek fandom got only bigger every year after that.

BrainGlutton
05-29-2007, 12:34 AM
What Tom Cruise/Nicole Kidman tape are you talking about?

I've never seen it but I remember it in the news. It was when they were still married, so it must have been 2001 or earlier.

Iggins
05-29-2007, 12:55 AM
I've never seen it but I remember it in the news. It was when they were still married, so it must have been 2001 or earlier.

I'm gonna need a cite on this one. If only to see Nicole when she was still incredibly hot. I never heard of such a tape existing.

Horatio Hellpop
05-29-2007, 02:42 AM
Joey Heatherton isn't a perfect match to the OP, but comes awfully close. Promising up-and-comer in the late 50s-early 60s, did a lot of variety shows of the Perry Como/Andy Williams variety, almost nabbed the Lolita role that went instead to Sue Lyon. She never quite caught on with her own generation, though, and her attempts at a comeback got more and more desperate, bottoming out with The Happy Hooker Goes to Washington (Not quite porn, but a magnet for performers whose careers were in freefall in 1977).

She wasn't quite the Lindsey Lohan of her era; closer to its Jessica Simpson, right down to the controlling dad and the tabloid marriage.

Tikster
05-29-2007, 07:29 AM
I've never heard of a Kidman/Cruise tape either... So, cite?

I cannot think of any movie stars that have gone to porn, but here in Denmark we have a story of the opposite: Katja Kean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katja_K). She was a porn actress, but has since establish herself somewhat as an actress in Denmark.

Tuckerfan
05-29-2007, 08:39 AM
I remember Star Trek fandom being already big in the 1970s, with national and regional conventions, and several fanzines. The first Star Trek convention (http://members.aol.com/Treknexus/trekgud6.htm), in New York in 1972, was a sold-out success. And Trek fandom got only bigger every year after that.
You could say it predated that, since the second season was the result of a letter writing campaign by fans.

IIRC, the Cruise/Kidman "sex tape" was just footage related to Eyes Wide Shut and not actual nookie material.

Beware of Doug
05-29-2007, 08:46 AM
I've never heard of a Kidman/Cruise tape either... So, cite?

I cannot think of any movie stars that have gone to porn, but here in Denmark we have a story of the opposite: Katja Kean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katja_K). She was a porn actress, but has since establish herself somewhat as an actress in Denmark.Well hey, it's Denmark. :) When I went there 2 years ago even nude sunbathing was considered sorta stodgy and passé.

(BTW, is it me or does her birthname "Sussi Le Cour" sound even more blue-movieish than "Katja Kean"?)

Wee Bairn
05-29-2007, 09:15 AM
Speaking of sex tapes, is there any one in the world would believes Screech's tape was leaked, and not put out specifically by him to get money? And does this idiot not realize that when people buy a celebrity sex tapes, its because the celebrity particiapants are hot, and that no one is going to pay 40-50 bucks to see a dork have sex with two anonymous prostitutes?

Apos
05-29-2007, 10:25 AM
Speaking of sex tapes, is there any one in the world would believes Screech's tape was leaked, and not put out specifically by him to get money? And does this idiot not realize that when people buy a celebrity sex tapes, its because the celebrity particiapants are hot, and that no one is going to pay 40-50 bucks to see a dork have sex with two anonymous prostitutes?

Uh, you've just described pretty much the entire, highly successful porn career of Ron Jeremy.

Exapno Mapcase
05-29-2007, 12:08 PM
I remember Star Trek fandom being already big in the 1970s, with national and regional conventions, and several fanzines. The first Star Trek convention (http://members.aol.com/Treknexus/trekgud6.htm), in New York in 1972, was a sold-out success. And Trek fandom got only bigger every year after that.
It still took until the 80s for there to be a convention circuit, with appearance fees large enough for the secondary cast members to make money doing it. If you think about the economics, it's clear that you need enormous conventions with very high attendance fees just to be able to give out money. For an individual to make a living at it, you need to have these all over the country. Why should it be surprising to learn that a decade or more was necessary to make the economics feasible?

You could say it predated that, since the second season was the result of a letter writing campaign by fans.
Third and last season, after almost being cancelled in the second season. But the third season was so awful except to the most deluded, um, devoted fans, that the continuation may have hurt rather than helped. :)

Fiver
05-29-2007, 02:07 PM
I cannot think of any movie stars that have gone to porn, but here in Denmark we have a story of the opposite: Katja Kean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katja_K). She was a porn actress, but has since establish herself somewhat as an actress in Denmark.Also, don't forget Traci Lords (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traci_Lords) (perfectly safe link), who started out in porn films as a 16-year-old ( :eek: ), but has so completely emerged from that "ghetto" that she's done guest spots on such far-from-porn TV shows as Gilmore Girls and Will and Grace.

Rube E. Tewesday
05-29-2007, 02:39 PM
Also, don't forget Traci Lords (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traci_Lords) (perfectly safe link), who started out in porn films as a 16-year-old ( :eek: ), but has so completely emerged from that "ghetto" that she's done guest spots on such far-from-porn TV shows as Gilmore Girls and Will and Grace.

Lords, though, is probably a good object lesson in why washed up celebrities don't do porn. Lords is the most successful porno actress to move to mainstream, and she basically went from being an A list porn star to a C list TV actress. Someone who started out as a successful mainstream actress can probably do as well as Lords without doing the porno.

alphaboi867
05-29-2007, 02:51 PM
Lords, though, is probably a good object lesson in why washed up celebrities don't do porn. Lords is the most successful porno actress to move to mainstream, and she basically went from being an A list porn star to a C list TV actress. Someone who started out as a successful mainstream actress can probably do as well as Lords without doing the porno.

It can't hurt that all but one of her porn films are now banned as child pornography.

Rube E. Tewesday
05-29-2007, 03:14 PM
It can't hurt that all but one of her porn films are now banned as child pornography.

True. Her contemporary, Ginger Lynn, who tried to go mainstream but without being able to have her porno past "disappeared" in the same fashion, ended up giving up and going back to porn.

Walloon
05-29-2007, 10:43 PM
Also, don't forget Traci Lords (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traci_Lords) (perfectly safe link), who started out in porn films as a 16-year-old ( :eek: )Hold the "eek." The age of consent in 30 U.S. states is 16.

Lemur866
05-29-2007, 10:59 PM
I suppose Marilyn Chambers is the closest I can think of:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Chambers

Fiver
05-30-2007, 09:05 AM
Hold the "eek." The age of consent in 30 U.S. states is 16.
I stand by my "eek."

ASAKMOTSD
05-30-2007, 11:39 AM
I read somewhere recently that Lisa Loring (http://imdb.com/name/nm0521006/bio) who played Wednesday on The Addams Family TV series was in some porn. Her second husband, Jerry Butler (http://imdb.com/name/nm0124973/) is apparently a porn star as well.

Yaxche
05-30-2007, 11:46 AM
I always assumed it was a bit of hyperbole pointing out the fact that everybody has a price if their career is on the line.

More like former teen stars Tiffany and Debbie Gibson doing Playboy shoots when they were 30-ish.

There are many examples of that sort of progression...

Acsenray
05-30-2007, 11:58 AM
The most high profile porn stars out there (Jenna Jameson, anyone?) aren't even close to notoriety or income, I would expect, to even a C-list star.

I'm not sure what this means. Are you saying that Jenna Jameson has more money and notoriety than a C-list star or less?

OneCentStamp
05-30-2007, 12:27 PM
Poor thing. I wonder why she didn't jump onto the convention circuit? Just about everyone who had a featured role in as few as only one episode of TOS has managed (it seems; I don't know anything about the economics involved) to eke out a living by going from con to con.
Someone suggested this to her, but she was a little hard of hearing. She thought they were suggesting she go "from john to john."

3: Profit!

Johnny Hildo
05-30-2007, 01:35 PM
Hold the "eek." The age of consent in 30 U.S. states is 16.

I doubt that will stop you getting busted for child pornography if you're in possession of one of her pre-18 movies. They were all taken off the market for a reason.

Loach
05-30-2007, 02:04 PM
I doubt that will stop you getting busted for child pornography if you're in possession of one of her pre-18 movies. They were all taken off the market for a reason.

That is two different laws. Age of consent is set by each state. The law setting the age by which you can be filmed nekkid is federal and it's 18. Each state probably has a law which mirrors the federal law.

kidchameleon
05-30-2007, 02:42 PM
The law setting the age by which you can be filmed nekkid is federal and it's 18.

Naked may or may not be pronographic. It's a very grey area, but there are films with naked folks under 18, usually babies.

Exapno Mapcase
05-30-2007, 03:42 PM
That is two different laws. Age of consent is set by each state. The law setting the age by which you can be filmed nekkid is federal and it's 18. Each state probably has a law which mirrors the federal law.
Nope. It's having sex that is precluded. Serious photography can use underage nude models, and there are many films with nudity by under eighteens, including major mainstream Hollywood films like American Beauty with Thora Birch topless.

Ironically for this thread, Thora Birch's parents are Jack Birch and Carol Connors, both porn stars.

Prosecutors have so misapplied the child pornography laws that it's not surprising that people think that any nudity is illegal, but it ain't so.

Walloon
05-30-2007, 04:21 PM
That is two different laws. Age of consent is set by each state. The law setting the age by which you can be filmed nekkid is federal and it's 18.That federal law (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002252---A000-.html) has to do with interstate transfer of child porn.

Morbo
05-30-2007, 04:37 PM
The kid from The Toy (http://imdb.com/name/nm0777432/) grew up to have a rather lengthy career as a porn star.

Tuckerfan
05-30-2007, 04:40 PM
Ironically for this thread, Thora Birch's parents are Jack Birch and Carol Connors, both porn stars.Bizarrely, in the director's commentary for the film, he says that there was some question as to whether or not Thora would be allowed to do the scene and that she was a Mormon.

Argent Towers
05-30-2007, 05:24 PM
The kid from The Toy (http://imdb.com/name/nm0777432/) grew up to have a rather lengthy career as a porn star.

That IMDb entry says only that he worked as a manager for adult performers, and his Wikipedia page says he acted in some porn films in non-sex roles. He might have gotten laid a lot in that business, but I doubt it was in front of the lens. The guy was 5'2", for cryin' out loud - not exactly the typical stud.

CalMeacham
05-30-2007, 05:32 PM
That IMDb entry says only that he worked as a manager for adult performers

I don't think you read that IMDB entry very closely. He's lised as "Actor" in those films, one of which is called "Scotty's X-rated Adventure". He's Scotty. It could be that he doesn't have sex in them (the description for that film, at least, suggests it), but it's not a foregone conclusion.

Morbo
05-30-2007, 05:36 PM
I don't think you read that IMDB entry very closely. He's lised as "Actor" in those films, one of which is called "Scotty's X-rated Adventure". He's Scotty. It could be that he doesn't have sex in them (the description for that film, at least, suggests it), but it's not a foregone conclusion.

I've seen one of them once upon a time - he definitely has sex in them.

GuanoLad
05-30-2007, 08:27 PM
I read somewhere recently that Lisa Loring (http://imdb.com/name/nm0521006/bio) who played Wednesday on The Addams Family TV series was in some porn. Her second husband, Jerry Butler (http://imdb.com/name/nm0124973/) is apparently a porn star as well.
She wasn't 'in some porn' as such; she worked on the production end, and not in front of the camera.

Shryn King
05-30-2007, 09:52 PM
Are there any female celebrities who actually have done porn after enjoying a brief career as a sex symbol, then became "washed up" and acquired a reputation as a hard partier?

The person that came to mind when I read the original post doesn't quite fit; but, is close!

Remember Kristy McNichol (http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2244708570033416538swHFMt )? Back in the day she was pretty popular. I don't know if she was actually ever considered a SEX symbol; but, I knew lots of guys who had her posters back in middle school.

Well, you can imagine my surprise when I rented Two Moon Junction (http://imdb.com/title/tt0096324/maindetails) by Zalman King and saw not only Kristy McNichol in it; but, Burl Ives as well. :smack: Please don't ask me why I rented it??

I'm not exactly a porn aficionado; but, it definately falls in the realm of softcore.

I never knew that she was on the cover of Playgirl. Apparently, she was though back in July of 1986. I was still a fairly good girl back then, so I missed it!

:eek: It's so amazing what you can learn when you lurk around here...but, even more so what you learn when you post and have to back everything up!! I discovered that Kristy McNichol was supposedly the last female to appear on the cover of Playgirl.

78lighthead
06-29-2010, 02:04 PM
Teri Weigel is also notorious for being the first Playboy Playmate to do hardcore porn. I believe that the playmates are contractually not allowed to do hardcore porn, so this was kind of a big deal.

I think Teri Weigel may have made Playboy change the rules of PoftM as a result. I understand she isn't even doing Porn Movies anymore only one on one session's (http://theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=141284&boardID=23&page=6). She has been at this escorting thing starting in May 0f 1999 at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch; been a long time at the trade!

Little Nemo
06-29-2010, 02:50 PM
78lighthead, one of the rules of the board is they prefer people to start new threads on a topic rather than revive an old one like this. So this thread is probably going to get locked down.

Acsenray
06-29-2010, 03:04 PM
I don't think that rule necessarily applies to questions that have factual answers.

twickster
06-29-2010, 03:16 PM
78lighthead, welcome to the SDMB. As Little Nemo has said, we prefer that people don't revive long-inactive threads, which we call zombies. Feel free to start a new thread on this topic if you would like.

In the meantime, pls. swing by ATMB (About This Message Board) which has a lot of info on the rules, guidelines, and etiquette of the SDMB, which will help you get your feet under you here.

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