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Grrr!
06-17-2011, 07:50 PM
Watching Game of Thrones and Grown Ups (Adam Sandler). In both instances a kid of about 9ish appears to be breast feeding off of a grown woman.

Not mad or anything, but I'm sure there's a double standard in there somewhere.

Seriously, how the heck did they get away with that?

zombywoof
06-17-2011, 07:56 PM
I'm thinking there must have been prosthetic boobs.

thirdname
06-17-2011, 08:01 PM
Maybe it was a young-looking 12-year-old. Best job ever!

bienville
06-19-2011, 10:36 PM
Don't have a GQ answer for the OP, but since we're in Cafe Society and not GQ I will chime in anyway.

Googling "Game of Thrones breastfeeding" (I've never watched the show), brings a handful of results that reference the kid as being 6years old- which is about how old the actor looks to be (don't know the character, so can't look up the actor on imdb).
http://w ww.youtube.com/watch?v=oNbrKJ_nVZs

The kid in Grownups is referred to as being 4years old- which is about how old the actor looks to be (actor's birth year not listed on imdb).



Assuming there really was physical contact between the child actor's mouth and the actress' nipple, I don't find anything particularly noteworthy about it. Wouldn't have been a sexual experience for a child that age, wouldn't have been a sexual experience for the actress.

For a 4 or 6 year old child, breastfeeding would be understood to be the very and sole purpose of breasts. Just an explanation to the child actor (involving his parents in the discussion), that we're telling a story about a somewhat odd mommy who kept breastfeeding long after most mommies would have stopped, and I'd say the child actor would be fully ready to approach the scene with the same comfort with which he approaches all make-believe.

Lasciel
06-19-2011, 10:56 PM
Given that there really ARE some "odd mommies" out there who keep breastfeeding until very advanced ages, there might actually have been a casting call specifically for older children who still breastfeed.

Then you don't even have to get into explaining to the kid that it's all pretend - it's just doing what comes normally!

gaffa
06-19-2011, 11:29 PM
What's the current thinking? Ween them when they are old enough to speak and clearly ask to breast feed?

kaylasdad99
06-19-2011, 11:48 PM
TeAt.

WeAn.

That is all.

astro
06-20-2011, 12:05 AM
MY comment from here (http://boards.academicpursuits.us/sdmb/showthread.php?t=609934&highlight=playboy)

IIRC the child of Lysa, Catelyn's sister in the Aerie is supposedly a smallish and very sickly child physically who is always having fits and is drugged up to his gills. He's obnoxious, but there's nothing at all sickly or drugged (to me) about that child, he also looks older than I expected. I though he was 6 or so in the books., that kid looks like he's almost 8 or 9. It was amusing to see him take his lips off an almost perfectly hemispherical 20 year old Playboy bunny breast attached to his haggard mid-to late thirty something mother. If she'd been nursing him all that time I think it'd be more like a flapjack by now

Sierra Indigo
06-20-2011, 12:33 AM
TeAt.

WeAn.

That is all.

Thank you, kind sir.

BigT
06-20-2011, 12:40 AM
biennville: One of the videos in that search has the character's name in the description. . The kid in King of Thrones is named Robin Aryn and is played by Lino Facioli, who was born in 2000, and thus was likely 9 or 10 when the show aired.

And, when I look at the clip, I see fake breast sans nipple.

kombatminipig
06-20-2011, 06:07 AM
biennville: One of the videos in that search has the character's name in the description. . The kid in King of Thrones is named Robin Aryn and is played by Lino Facioli, who was born in 2000, and thus was likely 9 or 10 when the show aired.

And, when I look at the clip, I see fake breast sans nipple.

Lordy, it's been censored. The original clip contained a nipple.

"If you suck on a tit the movie gets an R rating. If you hack the tit off with an axe it will be PG."
- Jack Nicholson

bienville
06-20-2011, 12:14 PM
biennville: One of the videos in that search has the character's name in the description. . The kid in King of Thrones is named Robin Aryn and is played by Lino Facioli, who was born in 2000, and thus was likely 9 or 10 when the show aired.

Thanks, BiggT.
Small kid. Could play 7 easily.

The breast in that clip really doesn't look like it belongs to the actress sporting it, but even if it were her real breast, with a 9 or 10 year old actor I'd still think it no big deal- 10 might be borderline*. At 9 or 10 kids are more aware that, for adults, there's something "sexual" about breasts (with as little meaning as the word "sexual" has at that age), but I still think a child that age is much more connected to the feeding purpose of breasts.



*Really, I think you just have to have a child actor who has parents that have always been open with conversation about bodies and who will be engaged with the boy making sure he is comfortable.
Certainly, a situation like "O.K., the director needs you to do this with the woman playing the mom. Don't ask any questions, never talk about it after. Just bring that juicy SAG pay home to mommy and daddy." could be a potentially damaging situation if it causes confusion on the child's part and/or a sense of guilt thinking of himself being pressured into doing something "bad".

astro
06-20-2011, 06:11 PM
Lordy, it's been censored. The original clip contained a nipple.

"If you suck on a tit the movie gets an R rating. If you hack the tit off with an axe it will be PG."
- Jack Nicholson

Here is the breastfeeding clip with nipple. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=oNbrKJ_nVZs)

Dogzilla
06-21-2011, 11:22 AM
What's the double standard, exactly? Whaddya mean, "how did they get away with that?" Get away with what?

Game of Thrones is on HBO. Everyone knows HBO has no standards. Bare boobage, or even a too-old kid breastfeeding is hardly... titillating (couldn't resist) for HBO. And the Adam Sandler movie was a movie. You know. Like when you go to the theater and people won't shut up or stop texting for two hours? HBO. Movie Theater. Apples and Oranges.

KellyCriterion
06-21-2011, 11:29 AM
FWIW, looks like a fake booby to me.

WhyNot
06-21-2011, 11:46 AM
FWIW, looks like a fake booby to me.

Very much so, and not a silicone implant fake, but a prosthetic costume piece fake. Frankly, I expect better special effects from HBO.

simster
06-21-2011, 12:02 PM
Not seen either scene, not overly concerned with any aspect of it but -

Why would they need to use a prosthesis? Is that for the censors and nannys (he's not really sucking a boob, its a plastic fake) the actress (that boy's got TEETH) or for some other law against kids and breasts?

Skammer
06-21-2011, 12:07 PM
Not seen either scene, not overly concerned with any aspect of it but -

Why would they need to use a prosthesis? Is that for the censors and nannys (he's not really sucking a boob, its a plastic fake) the actress (that boy's got TEETH) or for some other law against kids and breasts? I wouldn't be surprised if having a young boy not related to you suck on your breast is frowned upon, if not illegal, even on a TV film set. It doesn't matter if the child considers it sexual or not.

simster
06-21-2011, 12:32 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if having a young boy not related to you suck on your breast is frowned upon, if not illegal, even on a TV film set. It doesn't matter if the child considers it sexual or not.

I don;'t doubt that - I just love the idea that "here, have a fake one" somehow solves the problem that the law was meant to prevent. (assuming said law/problem exists).

ETA - aren't there surrogate breast feeders out there? or is it being filmed that is the issue? Maybe the issue is that the well is dry?

Skammer
06-21-2011, 01:18 PM
ETA - aren't there surrogate breast feeders out there? or is it being filmed that is the issue? Maybe the issue is that the well is dry?Yes, there are. I can imagine a law that would allow wetnursing but require that actual nursing is taking place, and perhaps stipulating an age limit.

SciFiSam
06-21-2011, 01:27 PM
I don;'t doubt that - I just love the idea that "here, have a fake one" somehow solves the problem that the law was meant to prevent. (assuming said law/problem exists).

ETA - aren't there surrogate breast feeders out there? or is it being filmed that is the issue? Maybe the issue is that the well is dry?

Maybe the actresses in question didn't want to have a little boy, who's not their son and is old enough to make jokes about boobs and is just a couple of years off puberty, sucking on their breast. I know actresses have to do all sorts of things they might never want to do in real life, but that's probably a bit too far for most.

Skammer
06-21-2011, 01:54 PM
That too.

simster
06-21-2011, 02:11 PM
Maybe the actresses in question didn't want to have a little boy, who's not their son and is old enough to make jokes about boobs and is just a couple of years off puberty, sucking on their breast. I know actresses have to do all sorts of things they might never want to do in real life, but that's probably a bit too far for most.

I alluded to this in my initial question - that the actress requested it - This seems the most likely candidate - still seems that if there was such an aversion- they might find other ways to film the scene so that no kid/boobie interaction ever takes place. (IOW, its not neccesary to show mouth on nipple to give the idea that the kid is having lunch).

kombatminipig
06-21-2011, 03:04 PM
Maybe the actresses in question didn't want to have a little boy, who's not their son and is old enough to make jokes about boobs and is just a couple of years off puberty, sucking on their breast. I know actresses have to do all sorts of things they might never want to do in real life, but that's probably a bit too far for most.

If they could find a handful of actresses willing to fuck a dwarf, I'm sure they could find a half decent ones for this scene. I'll agree that it was a prosthetic though, if nothing else because it's probably more comfortable for the actress, and they can easily get away with it.

Not that I'm in any way opposed to dwarf lovin', just sayin'...

kushiel
06-21-2011, 04:53 PM
If they could find a handful of actresses willing to fuck a dwarf, I'm sure they could find a half decent ones for this scene. I'll agree that it was a prosthetic though, if nothing else because it's probably more comfortable for the actress, and they can easily get away with it.

Not that I'm in any way opposed to dwarf lovin', just sayin'...

Well, most sex scenes do involve some sort of subtle covering. Every scene was built so that there was no genitalia touching, so flesh-coloured thongs and stuff is used. I haven't read anything specifically about Game of Thrones, but True Blood has scenes just as explicit and the actors have talked about banana hammocks and such.

zombywoof
06-21-2011, 09:40 PM
C'mon people, there's no way they (HBO's lawyers, the Actors' Union, the kid's appointed chaperone, anyone with any sense, etc.) is going to allow filming a minor child sucking an adult woman's tit...there are strict laws preventing the kid from working too late at night and making sure he does his schoolwork on set, for chrissakes, never mind engaging in what some could potentialy perceive as kiddie porn.

Ura-Maru
06-21-2011, 10:55 PM
If they could find a handful of actresses willing to fuck a dwarf, <snip>
Have you seen Peter Dinklage's wife? (http://zimbio.com/pictures/Dc8yrfHImFY/Knickerbocker+Opening+Night+Arrivals/OFBfwKXFV2Z/Peter+Dinklage)

I assumed it was a special effect breast, maybe intentionally not as realistic as they could have done. Probably to avoid this question being asked too hard.

--
It's the beard. Chicks dig the beard. And also the charming and talented and successful.

WhyNot
06-21-2011, 11:38 PM
It's the beard. Chicks dig the beard. And also the charming and talented and successful.

And the gorgeous eyes and the cocky grin and the hair I could run my fingers through for days and....


I'm sorry. What was this thread about again? :D

kombatminipig
06-22-2011, 02:26 AM
And the gorgeous eyes and the cocky grin and the hair I could run my fingers through for days and....


I'm sorry. What was this thread about again? :D

Hey, I wouldn't mind giving the man a run myself, and I'm not even into dwarves. Or men, for that matter.

SciFiSam
06-22-2011, 03:13 AM
If they could find a handful of actresses willing to fuck a dwarf, I'm sure they could find a half decent ones for this scene. I'll agree that it was a prosthetic though, if nothing else because it's probably more comfortable for the actress, and they can easily get away with it.

Not that I'm in any way opposed to dwarf lovin', just sayin'...

Faking sex with an adult human who happens to be a dwarf is waaaay less weird than allowing an older kid to suck your tit for real. It'd most likely be pretty disgusting to the kid.

Elendil's Heir
06-22-2011, 10:09 AM
Have you seen Peter Dinklage's wife? (http://zimbio.com/pictures/Dc8yrfHImFY/Knickerbocker+Opening+Night+Arrivals/OFBfwKXFV2Z/Peter+Dinklage)....

Huh. She looks quite a bit like the actress playing Shae, his mistress/retained whore, on the HBO series.

BigT
06-22-2011, 08:07 PM
Lordy, it's been censored. The original clip contained a nipple.

"If you suck on a tit the movie gets an R rating. If you hack the tit off with an axe it will be PG."
- Jack Nicholson

Naw. I just couldn't see it because it was in shadow on my monitor, which I keep kinda dark. It still looks fake, though.

I didn't think to turn it up because I remembered how much YouTube tends to freak out about that, and just assumed it would have gotten taken down otherwise. Then again, you can put actual mammogram stuff on there, so who knows.

Sampiro
06-22-2011, 08:26 PM
A tack-on question about "if this were real life": Could a woman keep producing milk for 6 years?

gaffa
06-22-2011, 08:29 PM
It didn't look fake to me. The nipple shifted back as the kid released it, so if it is a silicone breast, it is a very good one. The actress has lines on her face, but she may still have very nice breasts - in my experience, they show the ravages of age more slowly than the face.

Sampiro
06-22-2011, 08:33 PM
As for pretending "to fuck a dwarf", Dinklage is not at all without a female following. He's facially very handsome and has a great voice- it's not like Mini-Me is humping your leg. (Hell, my father's cousin Pete (http://phreeque.com/pete_moore.html) found a regular sized woman to fuck him for real [two kids] and he was way beyond just dwarf.)

gaffa
06-22-2011, 08:45 PM
As for pretending "to fuck a dwarf", Dinklage is not at all without a female following. He's facially very handsome and has a great voice- it's not like Mini-Me is humping your leg. (Hell, my father's cousin Pete (http://phreeque.com/pete_moore.html) found a regular sized woman to fuck him for real [two kids] and he was way beyond just dwarf.)
Many female Dopers are big fans of Peter Dinklage.

WhyNot
06-22-2011, 08:51 PM
A tack-on question about "if this were real life": Could a woman keep producing milk for 6 years?

Yes, theoretically. If the nipples are consistently stimulated, there's really no theoretical end point to the release of prolactin, the hormone that governs milk production. Many wet-nurses went from one child to another, for years and years if their milk was "healthful". (The really f'ing cool thing is that we now know their milk adjusts itself - turns nutritionally ideal for younger infants after they stop feeding the older infant! How the heck?! I don't know. No one seems to.)

There was a famous wet-nurse, Judith Waterford, once found by physicians to be lactating at age 81. Now, she's famous because she was still lactating at age 81, so that's not at all common, but it shows it's physiologically possible!

What I want to know is...would extended breastfeeding stave off menopause? Or would menopause generally dry up the milk and Ms. Waterford is an exceptional hormonal case? I have no idea, and I don't think anyone's studied it. But that's waaaaaaay off topic, so I'll stop now and get back to sighing over Peter Dinklage...

[/hijack]

gaffa
06-22-2011, 09:32 PM
What I want to know is...would extended breastfeeding stave off menopause? Or would menopause generally dry up the milk and Ms. Waterford is an exceptional hormonal case? I have no idea, and I don't think anyone's studied it.
I thought menopause was triggered by the release of the last viable egg from a woman's ovaries. And that "breastfeeding may delay the return to fertility for some women by suppressing ovulation. A breastfeeding woman may not ovulate, or have regular periods, during the entire lactation period." (from the Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breastfeeding#Hormone_release)). So, would decades of milk production result in an extraordinarily low number of menses, and thus a delayed menopause?

WhyNot
06-22-2011, 09:53 PM
I thought menopause was triggered by the release of the last viable egg from a woman's ovaries. And that "breastfeeding may delay the return to fertility for some women by suppressing ovulation. A breastfeeding woman may not ovulate, or have regular periods, during the entire lactation period." (from the Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breastfeeding#Hormone_release)). So, would decades of milk production result in an extraordinarily low number of menses, and thus a delayed menopause?

A woman will only not ovulate while breastfeeding if she's thin and breastfeeding exclusively - no other food or drink to the kiddo - round the clock on demand. Most women in the US, not being thin and not exclusively breastfeeding past 4 or 6 months, should NOT rely on breastfeeding for contraception. A wet-nurse may or may not ovulate, depending if she's 'round the clock "help" for an exclusively breastfed infant, or if she's an adjunct to mother's feedings or only nursing during the day.

But suppressing ovulation does not seem to inherently delay menopause, or women on the Pill (who are similarly not ovulating all those months) would have later menopause than women never on the Pill, and there's no such difference. Women have thousands of potentially viable eggs left when they enter menopause, although they won't ever become viable under natural circumstances.

gaffa
06-22-2011, 10:10 PM
But suppressing ovulation does not seem to inherently delay menopause, or women on the Pill (who are similarly not ovulating all those months) would have later menopause than women never on the Pill, and there's no such difference. Women have thousands of potentially viable eggs left when they enter menopause, although they won't ever become viable under natural circumstances.
OK, thanks.

Bricker
04-28-2013, 03:51 AM
It was a prosthetic. (http://winteriscoming.net/2012/06/a-closer-look-at-special-makeup-and-prosthetic-design/)

They also designed Lysa Arryn’s prosthetic breast, featured in the notorious breast-feeding scene in season 1, using actress Kate Dickie’s body as the actual model for the false breast. Fantastic work, I would say, since so many people to this day still believe it was real!

alphaboi867
04-28-2013, 04:30 AM
On a related note the baby in The Blue Lagoon kept trying to suck on Brooke Shields's nipples & breastfeed for real. Shields was mortified, but the baby's mother thought it was hilarous.

Frylock
04-28-2013, 08:31 AM
Not mad or anything, but I'm sure there's a double standard in there somewhere.



What are you saying here? "It's totally unfair that little kids get to touch boobies but I don't!"

obfusciatrist
04-28-2013, 09:51 AM
Maybe that it would have been disallowed to have a 10 year old girl sucking on an adult male's nipple? Or that an adult woman wouldn't be allowed to suck on the breast of a 10-year-old child?

In which case, yes, I tend to agree that the reaction would have been different. But then so would what was being presented.

Lightlystarched
04-28-2013, 10:42 AM
That scene really didn't look like what actual breastfeeding looks like. The boys mouth wasn't open enough. Babies/children don't suck the nipple, they open wide and take in almost the whole areola. Also, when a child comes off the breast, the nipple is temporarily deformed into a different shape that *not* look like a cute perky nipple. The nipple/breast is more elongated and squashed - as it had been compressed between the child's tongue and palate. Also, kids tend to "pull" as they come off the breast. There is a strong vacuum suction happening and kids don't just release, they pull away and break off.

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WhyNot
04-28-2013, 11:48 AM
That scene really didn't look like what actual breastfeeding looks like. The boys mouth wasn't open enough. Babies/children don't suck the nipple, they open wide and take in almost the whole areola. Also, when a child comes off the breast, the nipple is temporarily deformed into a different shape that *not* look like a cute perky nipple. The nipple/breast is more elongated and squashed - as it had been compressed between the child's tongue and palate. Also, kids tend to "pull" as they come off the breast. There is a strong vacuum suction happening and kids don't just release, they pull away and break off.

Absolutely. That prosthetic was good only if your familiarity with breasts is limited to 20 year olds having sexy thoughts or caught in a cold draft.

Gagundathar
04-28-2013, 12:25 PM
The details presented here about the mechanics of breastfeeding are useful and enlightening. Even though I am a father and my wife breastfed, I didn't examine it that closely.
I wonder why. Perhaps because I wasn't breastfed myself? Is it like the old Dangerfield joke, "My mother didn't breast feed me because she just wanted us to be good friends?"

You learn the strangest and most marvelous things on this board.

April R
04-28-2013, 12:58 PM
That scene really didn't look like what actual breastfeeding looks like. The boys mouth wasn't open enough. Babies/children don't suck the nipple, they open wide and take in almost the whole areola. Also, when a child comes off the breast, the nipple is temporarily deformed into a different shape that *not* look like a cute perky nipple. The nipple/breast is more elongated and squashed - as it had been compressed between the child's tongue and palate. Also, kids tend to "pull" as they come off the breast. There is a strong vacuum suction happening and kids don't just release, they pull away and break off.

Wow I am now so looking forward to breastfeeding now :eek:

WhyNot
04-28-2013, 01:07 PM
Wow I am now so looking forward to breastfeeding now :eek:

Unsolicited mama advice: Don't let them get in the habit of pulling away without breaking suction first. Boob hickeys aren't actually as fun as they sound.

Stick your finger in the corner of their mouth to break the seal when they're itty bitty, and they'll (mostly) keep the habit of letting go before they let go when they're doing it on their own. :D

Lightlystarched
04-28-2013, 01:53 PM
Hehe. Until they become aware of the surrounding world and want to face out, not in. Then they just turn their heads with the boob still attached. And that is why breastfeeding mums develop "long" boobs. :)

Jragon
04-28-2013, 04:48 PM
A tack-on question about "if this were real life": Could a woman keep producing milk for 6 years?

From what I understand, in poorer countries (and some countries with a plain different culture) it's common to breastfeed until 3-4 years old (for instance, Wikipedia says breastfeeding until 2-3 in India). I once heard a figure that the mean age to cease breastfeeding worldwide is between 4 and 5, but I can't find a cite (aside from a few message boards) for that so it may be a erroneous.

Either way, you can breastfeed indefinitely given proper nutrition and stimulation (and even induce lactation sans pregnancy if you're really dedicated). Okay, maybe not indefinitely, but for a very long time.

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04-28-2013, 05:03 PM
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alphaboi867
04-28-2013, 06:01 PM
...Either way, you can breastfeed indefinitely given proper nutrition and stimulation (and even induce lactation sans pregnancy if you're really dedicated). Okay, maybe not indefinitely, but for a very long time.

IIRC with the right hormone shots you can even enable men to breastfeed. It's not unual for male newborns to lactate due to all the female hormones still in their systems.

Elendil's Heir
04-28-2013, 09:06 PM
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