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lenin
10-23-2001, 10:54 PM
I'm talking about today(10/23) and yesterday's, and god help us, the rest of the week's assinine series of strips.

For those of you who don't get Mallard Fillmore, which is to Conservative as Doonesbury is to Liberal(except that Doonesbury has good artwork*, is funny, has an audience, and is well-known) in your paper, allow me to tell you about today's strip. It features the a duck speaking with a floating twinkie, which is supposed to represent- ha, ha,- Gary Trudeau. Will someone please explain to me just how is that a twinkie? It is an inch thick oval slab of pliable material with two circles on the bottom near the ends. That last time I checked, twinkies were cylandrical.

(* Yes, I realize that Doonesbury is not drawn by Trudeau, but wouldn't you want a ghost artist after forty years?)

In the first panel, this strange Mallard- ha, ha,- jokingly asks Gary Trudeau the following:

So you're saying you routinely make up "facts" in "Doonesbury?"*

* See USA Today Sept.11

Interesting. I just searched USA Today's site for Doonesbury, Gary Trudeau, and Trudeau. I found one article printed on the 11th, which I'll have to assume is the one you're talking about no matter how much this seems to differ from what you're saying.

http://usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/2001/09/11/ebrief.htm

It's a four paragraph long article. No where do I see a place where Trudeau says, "I make up facts on purpose to mislead my audience." No, he does not come fucking close to that. What does the article say, in the first fucking sentence?

Garry Trudeau, creator of the satirical comic strip Doonesbury, admits he fell for an Internet e-mail hoax in which the IQs of recent presidents were compared and George W. Bush was reported to have the lowest in 50 years.

Okay, Tinsley. Where does it say there that he made up this hoax himself? Where does it say he knew all along it was fake? Where does it fucking say he routinely makes up facts to mislead his readers?!

Jumpin' jack christ.

I get three** political cartoons in my comics section in addition to the many I get from purchasing Editorial Humor every two weeks: Doonesbury, Non Sequitor, and Mallard Fillmore. Mallard Fillmore is one of the worst comics in front of me, so I just skip it. Only today I noticed it because it mentioned Trudeau and featured some strange, quasi-meatloaf product floating in the air.

(** Can you count Boondocks as a political cartoon? That would make four if you did.)

Let's now look at the comic itself. It's one thing to make a comic that puts words into the president's mouth. Why? Because we know how the president acts, and we see the president all the time. On the other hand, how many of us have met Gary Trudeau in person? Is this cartoon anything more than a blatent attack on a fellow cartoonist? One who made a mistake and THEN APOLOGIZED? AND SHOWED THE HATE E-MAIL HE WAS GETTING TO SHOW THAT HE'S NOT JUST SHOVING THIS UNDER THE FUCKING CARPET?

I think we all know what really is making this happen.

I think Bruce Tinsley can't stand that Doonesbury is funny, looks better, has an audience, and is well-known and his comic is, well, the stupid comic you skip over every morning. Tinsley is just so upset that even after making a big mistake and being flamed to a crisp for it, Trudeau is a name known by politicians and important figures all around. And his.. is not.

Let's not also forget how Bruce Tinsley makes such a clever swipe at all of the readers of Doonesbury by saying:

People who still read Doonesbury grew up in the sixties... Reality makes them uncomfortable.

Very humorous. I'm sure you got the all laughs you were looking for.

All five of them, in fact.

-L

Sofa King
10-23-2001, 11:28 PM
What kind of ignorant piece of white trash do you need to be to try to use some fake IQ study to hurt the name of the leader of the free world?" --'one writer,' abovecited

I miss Wildest Bill. Can we have him back, please?

Sofa King
10-23-2001, 11:30 PM
Hey, just in case that made no sense, I wasn't trying to insult you, [b]lenin[/i]. Just the fool quoted in that article.

samclem
10-23-2001, 11:56 PM
Evidently this is only the latest shot in the war.

Rush (http://detnews.com/AAEC/winter98/feathers/feathers.htm)

Being a knee-jerk liberal, and a Trudeau reader since the beginning, I will say Tinsley is just a jealous, second-rate cartoonist.

samclem
10-24-2001, 12:04 AM
And now that I have gotten that out of my system, I will contribute Mary McLaughlin's piece praising Tinsley.

http://vergemag.com/1100/features/politics.html

samclem
10-24-2001, 12:21 AM
And now that I have searched a bit more, it is starting to make more sense. here (http://worldmag.com/world/issue/07-26-97/cover_1.asp)

sir viks
10-24-2001, 12:51 AM
I've never read the strip "Mallard Fillmore" before, but in the last response posted by samclem the link talks about how Tinsley created his character:

Mr. Tinsley's bosses at the newspaper where he once worked had asked the artist to design a mascot for their weekend entertainment section. Mr. Tinsley's first idea was a blue hippopotamus. "The managing editor and the executive editor said they couldn't believe I submitted a drawing like that," . . . So he submitted his next idea, which was, by his description, "a huge nose in a tuxedo."

Doesn't anyone feel this character is just a rip-off of the character Opus from "Bloom County"?

For those of you who don't know who Opus is, I post a link here (http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/pictures/comics/Bloom.County/opus.gif).

Miller
10-24-2001, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by samclem
And now that I have searched a bit more, it is starting to make more sense. here (http://worldmag.com/world/issue/07-26-97/cover_1.asp)

I like the part where he compares his relationship with God to a pantless duck.

waterj2
10-24-2001, 01:54 AM
You might get more results searching for Garry Trudeau.

lenin
10-24-2001, 12:02 PM
Well, well. Today's strip has come out. I have it clipped and in front of me. It follows the standard procedure of all Mallard Fillmore comics, by being the same fucking thing as yesterday. The "punchline" of yesterday's strip(In quotes, because a punchline is often meant to be funny) takes up the middle panel, while the first and second panel are just rehashed. And what is today's "punchline?"


Hideous poorly drawn duck: You have data?

Hideous poorly drawn twinkie: 92% of my readers say I'm funnier than Cheech or Chong..

How funny. samclem posted a link to an article condemning conservatives as hateful, yet what is Tinsley the fuckwad doing here? He's labelling all of Trudeau's audience as 60's Baby Boomers. Way to go, Tinsley! You'll get everyone on your side that way!

Quite frankly, I won't deny the fact that I think Trudeau has done nothing wrong. Despite what Tinsley thinks, Rush Limbaugh does often spout out hateful innacuracies, much more often than Trudeau. (Man, I wish I had a cite for that)

Now let's look at the last part of the article:

Tinsley, who recently won an award from the Conservative Political Action Conference, knows something about conversing with liberals. He's married to one - Arlette, an attorney. Tinsley said his wife thought the strips about Trudeau were "unfair," which helped convince him that he had hit the mark!

Jeeesus christ.

How the FUCK does this guy expect us to think "conservatives are like plush toys!" if he's proud to be spewing forth garbage even his spouse dislikes?

Okay, I'm looking at the other articles now. Upon reading the second one "The politics of Doonesbury vs. Mallard Fillmore," I am suddenly shocked by a revalation. Mallard Fillmore HAS AN ACTUAL STORY?! I guess I couldn't detect it under the conservative propaganda and hate-spewing. You may be asking, how is this any different than Trudeau spewing forth liberal propaganda and hate? I reply, because Trudeau can make it actually fucking funny.

I hate to generalize here, but for someone who is so conservative and accuses the liberal media of trying to thwart him all the time, his comics have never been lauding the 1st amendment.

While Mallard has his cantankerous critics, he also has some high-profile fans, like Judge Lance Ito, who requested an original cartoon Mr. Tinsley had drawn of him. And Sen. Jesse Helms loved a cartoon in which he made fun of the senator from North Carolina.

Wow. Fucking amazing.. The judge of the O.J. Simpson trial in which O.J. went free, and a racist grumpy old man. Quite a fanbase there.

Bah, I'm tired.. Someone else finish this for me. I gotta go back to work.

-L

Gatopescado
10-24-2001, 03:31 PM
hee hee, a duck in a hat......hee hee......

ElwoodCuse
10-24-2001, 09:04 PM
This thread made my day. I was considering starting one myself. Bruce Tinsely is just a petty, jealous man--jealous that Garry Trudeau actually has an audience and is way more successful than he could ever hope to be

BTW, I do see the liberalism in Doonesbury, but it's not like he only picks on Republicans. Remember Bill Clinton as the stack of waffles?

lenin
10-24-2001, 09:29 PM
Hee hee.

"Yo, Roland!"
"What?"
"The president's down! Some kid tried to eat him!"

Sublight
10-24-2001, 10:32 PM
I used to read his strip out of some misguided 'clean your plate' mentality that convinced me it was some sort of sin to leave part of the paper unread. Day after day I'd look at his strip and play "Where's the Punchline?" Half the time I'd give up. Finally, it dawned on me...

Brunce Tinsley is actually Bil Keane attempting politics! The same clunky timing, the same ham-fisted sense of humor and the same pathetically stunted creativity. Just do a find-and-replace for "pasgetti" and "Hillary" and you get the exact same comic strip.

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