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Old 04-29-2002, 07:37 PM
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Blues Clues : Joe vs. Steve

So, Steve is leaving Blues Clues. Joe, his brother is taking over.

We need a consensus here .. which one is better.

Steve has had the show since the beginning so of course he's got the lead.

Steve is a bit geekier though, while Joe is a bit more buff. And has whiter teeth.

In both of their favor / detriment, a friend IM'd me to say "Man, those two guys are really cute, but they're stupid." (I will also leave off telling you how I and said friend thought Steve's send-off really should have been like.)

Joe seems to be a bit slow in picking up how the game works.

I'm beginning to think that Ashton Kutcher would be perfect for this role.

So, get out your handy dandy notebook. What's the consensus? Steve or Joe? Or someone else?
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Old 04-29-2002, 08:25 PM
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Well, I haven't seen an episode with Joe yet, but did come across Nick Jr. Magazine at the grocery store in which Steve introduces everyone to Joe. I have to say I don't really see the resemblance (haha) but they did have a picture of the two as kids* (wearing the same clothes, of course) where they somehow looked strikingly similar, and yet still looked like their adult selves. As I understand it, Steve was pretty dim himself (a friend claims her 3 year-old used to scream at the TV "Jesus, Steve, it's RIGHT THERE!!!!!")

You're dead on about Ashton Kucher, though.

*(Yes, I'm perfectly aware that it is obviously different children dressed to look like Steve and Joe, but the resemblance is really uncanny!)
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Old 04-29-2002, 09:33 PM
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Joe made his debut just tonight.

All my pro-Steve feelings dissolved when I saw his absolutely awful haircut. He will get his ass kicked at "college".

Joe has a nice smile although he could hurt someone with that pointed chin of his. I will have to say, on with the new! At least Joe will wear the same shirt but in different colors. How chic!

Did you hear that the real Steve left to make rock albums? What an idiot...
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Old 04-29-2002, 11:24 PM
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Steve left because he said he didn't want to become Crusty the Clown in front of all of America.

I think Joe is cuter. Otherwise, I can't make a decision yet. My four-year-old son, however, after watching the transition this evening like Joe. He was despondant that we don't have any Joe videos yet.
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Old 04-29-2002, 11:38 PM
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You talk like Steve's geekiness is a bad thing.
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Old 04-29-2002, 11:39 PM
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What struck my family as we watched the three part changing of the guard tonight was how much bigger Joe is than Steve. Who's the little brother?

My five year old daughter was nearly in tears that she will never see Steve again.
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Old 04-29-2002, 11:51 PM
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Steve will always have my heart....
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Old 04-30-2002, 07:59 AM
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My daughter was too young to get to know Steve. All she will ever know is Joe. I pity her loss.
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Old 04-30-2002, 08:16 AM
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For all of you that have upset toddlers at home, I hear that Steve will be back for a few guest shots at Christmas time.

My kids outgrew Blue's Clues a while ago, but I miss Steve.
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Old 04-30-2002, 08:29 AM
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The missus thinks that they picked Joe because he has better hair (I haven't really seen him yet, just briefly in a commercial). Her theory is that Steve is balding and they need someone who will look young longer.
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Old 04-30-2002, 09:02 AM
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Steve made a huge mistake!
He had a job where his fans (the kids) adored him without much judgement as to his acting abilities or how he looks.
Now he's going off to what? Anything he acts in people will think of him as Steve from Blues Clues. Who really wants to see him in an action movie or a teen comedy playing Nerdlinger?
Will Kids want to see him in a steamy love scene? Or will he play another drug head? How many kids will be disapointed watching him curse his head off, or getting killed in a later movie. Hell I have to make sure my kids don't catch the Law and Order episode in which he dies! (Of course I avoid letting them watch the show anyway as they are only 3 and 2 but you get the point)

The fear of being Krusty is ridiculous. If you look at the Kiddie show stars of the past most are remembered fondly even by adults. Think of Captain Kangaroo, Mr. Hooper, Buffalo Bob, Commander Tom (from the Buffalo station I watched as a Kid) Mr. Dressup (CBC). They spent their carreers doing that job and I think many people respected what they did in the end.

Steve did a good job and my kids loved watching him, now he's taking off I'm sure they will feel betrayed when they one day find out he left to start his great movie carreer.

Way to go Steve!
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Old 04-30-2002, 09:32 AM
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He is a real person who isn't happy in his job. So what if he fails to become a film star. Would you really want to watch a miserable kids show host?


I'll miss him too, especially his Elvis impressions.
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Old 04-30-2002, 09:53 AM
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I think before we can decide, we need to see them wrestle in Jell-O.
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Old 04-30-2002, 10:18 AM
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I wonder how "Steve" every made it to college. My God, if it takes him half an hour just to figure out that his dog wants to go outside, how the hell is he going to handle college? I concur with Lil Lurker, he is going to get his ass kicked.

"Joe" looks, as my 17 yr old daughter noted, like a young Jay Leno. Her review of the show was that

1) He pauses too long
2) He is too tall to flop properly into the "thinking chair".
3) Hi Opal!
4) Did he never watch his own brother's show? How can he not know how to play Blue's Clues?
5) He runs funny.
6) He has evil eyebrows.

But, overall, he will do.
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Old 04-30-2002, 10:36 AM
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My five-year-old hasn't watched it recently since he's in school everyday now, but he wanted to watch the special last night.
He liked it, and liked Joe.

It looks like they may be revamping the show a bit, since Joe sang songs that were slightly different, and has a different Handy-Dandy Notebook.
The end credits showed him wearing different shirts, too; the same pattern, but different colors.

Joe is MUCH cuter than Steve. And doesn't seem quite as spacey.
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Old 04-30-2002, 11:58 AM
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Did you hear that the real Steve left to make rock albums? What an idiot...
I give you Steve's Webpage.
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Old 04-30-2002, 12:01 PM
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I think before we can decide, we need to see them wrestle in Jell-O.
ROFL! Or at least topless.
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Old 04-30-2002, 12:20 PM
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Steve Burns was also the co-producer of the show and, as such, got a cut from the sale of every piece of Blue's Clues commercial product (videos, CDs, games, dolls, etc. etc. etc.). I'm sure Steve is thinking "Think whatever you want, you loser assholes. I'm young, rich, and will never have to work another day in my life. Think about that when you wake up at 6:30 tomorrow morning to go to your cubicle and begin another day of your pathetic lives."

Good for him.

And I'll miss his Elvis impersonations as well.
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Old 04-30-2002, 12:30 PM
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Thanks for the link Kepi. Now that I've seen the pic with Steve with facefur, I might have to revise who I think is cuter.
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Old 04-30-2002, 01:21 PM
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I give you Steve's Webpage.
OMG, MAJOR loser. He looks like Bud Bundy. "Rock Godlet?" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Old 04-30-2002, 03:52 PM
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I think the show demands a younger-type person. Steve was beginning to show his age.

Mrs. Dave-Guy and Halford the Human EelTM watched the transition show last night. Being a teacher, my wife thought they were smart to do it the way they did, with Steve going off to college. Not only does this keep him from just disappearing, but it allows him to return periodically for a while.

I didn't really watch the show, so I can't say if I like Joe better than Steve or what. But, for what it's worth, an elementary school teacher thinks the transition was handled well, as was the idea of introducing different looking elements for Joe (his handy-dandy notebook, apparently, is different, e.g.).
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Old 04-30-2002, 04:34 PM
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What struck my family as we watched the three part changing of the guard tonight was how much bigger Joe is than Steve. Who's the little brother?
One of the first things Joe mentioned in the intro to Part 1 of yesterday's special was that "Steve's my older brother-even though I'm taller!"

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Did he never watch his own brother's show? How can he not know how to play Blue's Clues?
I think the thing is that in the universe of the show, it isn't a show. You know, just like almost every other show on television. The idea seems to be that the viewer is a friend come to visit the house. Therefore, if Joe has never been to Steve's house when a game of Blue's Clues has been going on, he has no idea how to play Blue's Clues-since in the world of Blue's Clues, the television show Blue's Clues does not exist!
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Old 05-01-2002, 12:14 AM
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All in all, a pretty powerful show today. On the playground, today's episode probably had the same impact for them as the last episode of M*A*S*H or Seinfled did for our generation.

As for Joe....I think he'll work out fine. Although, I must admit I was a bit worried in the beginning--he seemed to have a hard time grasping many of the concepts. But Steve, being a patient older brother, did an excellent job in carefully sheparding him through the show's paces. I only hope that Joe achieves the same level of chemistry with the co-hosts that Steve had...
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Old 05-01-2002, 03:07 AM
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My kids are both out of the Blue's Clues demographic, but we still watched it.

I shall miss "I'm the King" Steve.

Fortunately, we have hours and hours of it on videotape.
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Old 05-01-2002, 02:03 PM
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As I understand it, Steve was pretty dim himself (a friend claims her 3 year-old used to scream at the TV "Jesus, Steve, it's RIGHT THERE!!!!!")

My 3yo does this with Steve (and Dora.) "I said, 'It's right there!' " We've discussed, more than once, the fact that Steve doesn't seem very bright. She watched the transition episodes yesterday and remarked halfway through that "Joe isn't very smart, either."

Something I (may have) noticed: I thought at one point, when Joe said "thank you" to someone, he made the ASL sign for "thank you" at the same time. (He touched his fingertips to his chin, then moved his hand slightly forward.) Is that the correct sign? If so, did anyone else notice it?
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Old 05-01-2002, 02:13 PM
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Steve has been doing the ASL "thank you" for most of the show's run. He also did the sign for "smart" when they sing the "We just figured out Blue's Clues" song. I assume Joe will continue this custom.
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Old 05-01-2002, 02:18 PM
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So my youngest (four year old boy) saw the new Blues Clues guy yesterday. I know this because Mrs. ShibbOleth told me on the phone "The Boy wants to go to college". So when I got home I said to him "I hear that you want to go to college."

"No."

"You don't want to go to college?"

"No. I am going to college."

"Do you know what college is?"

"It's a big school for big kids."

"Is Steve a big kid?"

"Nope. He's a grown up."

So, that's not an entirely bad side effect. It never occurred to me that my son might say, in his own way, "Fine, I'm going with him."
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Old 05-01-2002, 04:36 PM
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Where the hell is Steve going to college on a yellow school bus? I don't remember taking the bus to college...

I like Joe. He's MUCH cuter, and I just want to push his bangs out of his face. My daughter is 15 months old, so we're just getting into Blues Clues. I don't think she'll notice a difference, but I sure will. Mmmmhmmm....
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Watching the two of them together was like watching some kind of badly-costumed local theater production of Portrait of Dorian Gray. Steve looked like he was heading off to the retirement home, not college. My theory is that Joe is Steve's illegitimate son, perhaps mothered by a down-on-her-luck Sesame Streetwalker.
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Old 05-01-2002, 07:58 PM
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Bwahahaha! Nice one Rubicon.
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Old 05-01-2002, 08:29 PM
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My theory is that Joe is Steve's illegitimate son, perhaps mothered by a down-on-her-luck Sesame Streetwalker.
Zoe, perhaps?
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Old 05-01-2002, 09:20 PM
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Steve has been doing the ASL "thank you" for most of the show's run.
Thanks, Homebrew. As you may have guessed, the show is usually just background noise for me. I mostly just listen with half an ear, TV time being mom-gets-things-done time around here.
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