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Old 05-23-2000, 10:54 PM
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Hi-Ho Silver, Or Hi-Yo?

In his syndicated column of 4-30-00, humorist Dave Barry ruminated on whether the Lone Ranger's call to action was pronounced "Hi-Ho Silver" or "Hi-Yo Silver" (http://herald.com/content/archiv...cs/april30.htm). Barry's not-so-rigorous research efforts were basically limited to asking the opinion of his author-friends like Bill Safire and Amy Tan, and no satisfying answer emerged.

Personally, I thought this was a silly premise for a column, since I have a pretty good memory of the Lone Ranger saying "Hi-Ho." But when I checked out a bunch of Lone Ranger websites, darned if they don't all spell it "Hi-Yo!"

So my question is: Why would I possibly remember Clayton Moore (et al) as saying "Hi-Ho Silver, Away" instead of the other pronuciation? And am I the only one?


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Old 05-23-2000, 11:15 PM
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The Lone Ranger said "Hi Yo."

Steve Allen said "Hi Ho."
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Old 05-24-2000, 01:14 AM
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Tom--being probably older than you, I think it was actually Louis Nye who always used to say "Hi! Ho! Steverino!" (Talking to Steve Allen, of course)
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Old 05-24-2000, 01:32 AM
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My personal crackpot theory is that the Lone Ranger was saying, "Hie-ho" - hie meaning "get going" and the "ho" added because the LR was, after all, a cowboy (Westward Ho!) It was a posher way of saying "giddyup."

I think the "hi-yo" came about because of the tendency we have to speak words as rapidly as possible. To do this, we usually drop a few letters, but even without that "h" sound, it still takes time to say "i-o" so we speed the transition between those vowels with the added "y" sound. Say "Ohio" a few times and see if you don't eventually say, "o-hi-yo."

My other crackpot theory is that almost all vowels in English tend to want to become schwas, so someday it will be pronounced, "Huh-yuh, Silvuh!" anyway.

Sing ho for the life of a bear.
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Old 05-30-2000, 01:58 AM
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Okay, I like that theory (Hie-Ho becoming Hiyo through lazy pronunciation). But I guess to really clinch it, we'd need to find an old Lone Ranger script or the like, to see just how they spelled it.

I will report any progress on this matter.
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Old 05-30-2000, 02:38 AM
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Largent's Lone Ranger and Tonto Page
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Old 05-30-2000, 03:25 PM
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From tomndebb's link:


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What is Tonto's horse's name?
Tonto's horse is named "Scout." He's a spotted palamino or "paint."
Originally, Tonto rode double with the Lone Ranger on Silver. After a publicity photo was taken of the Lone Ranger and Tonto this way, WXYZ wisely decided to give Tonto his own steed.

Now that's a shame. I think the show would have been much better if Tonto was riding double with the Lone Ranger. It would perhaps have ingrained car-pooling in the american consciousness, and been an excellent role model to teen-agers showing that real men are not afraid of closeness. Of course, one would hope that Tonto would have been allowed to drive at least half of the time.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:12 AM
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Hi-Yo Silver Away

I think the more important question is ...." Did the Lone Ranger where his mask to bed each night. In an interview in the early 60's Tonto confirmed that he did, but then the question became how did Tonto know this bit of information.
You know how the Hollywood rumor mills work, it almost ruined their careers.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:47 AM
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The authorized Dell comic book was titled, The Lone Ranger's Famous Horse Hi-Yo Silver http://comics.org/series/873/

However, personally as kid I always heard Hi Ho and I don't recall every hearing it said Hi Yo until after seeing it written down many years later.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:52 AM
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I think the more important question is ...." Did the Lone Ranger where his mask to bed each night. In an interview in the early 60's Tonto confirmed that he did, but then the question became how did Tonto know this bit of information.
You know how the Hollywood rumor mills work, it almost ruined their careers.
The Lone ranger and Tonto slept under the stars near a campfire all the time. Nor wold it have been unlikely they shared a bed in some kind of hotel had there actually been such characters. Of course Tonto would know. Now if it had been that Jay Silverheels knew Clayton Moore slept with the mask on, that might have raised some questions.
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:55 AM
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I believe the pertinent question is whether this is the oldest thread ever revived which is still current and on topic?

To answer the OP: I knew it as Hi-Yo. YMMV.
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:03 PM
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Wow, it only took 13 years to settle this.
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I'm a child of the 50s (wait: I'm getting me and Robert Klein mixed up) and I watched some of the later seasons of The Lone Ranger when they were first broadcast. I couldn't believe Dave Barry when he wrote that the famous cry was Hi-Ho. That's nuts. Everybody knew it was Hi-Yo! That's what famous means; everybody knows it.

But "MacArthur Park" is not the worst song ever, either. So much for Dave Barry.



(Just kidding, Dave! You're a genius!)
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Old 07-23-2013, 03:50 PM
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Updated URL for Largent's Lone Ranger and Tonto Page.
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:10 PM
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Well, I always thought it was "Hi Ho!"
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:32 PM
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The confusion may come from those damned seven dwarves, with their Heigh Ho song.

The Lone Ranger said Hi Yo.
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:45 PM
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I couldn't believe Dave Barry when he wrote that the famous cry was Hi-Ho. That's nuts.
Don't you mean it's crackers?
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:08 PM
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Actually it was "Hidey-Ho."

The Lone Ranger's secret identity was Cab Calloway.
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Zombie thread, started in 2000, when we had no Cafe Society. Now we do. Moved there.

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Old 07-23-2013, 09:28 PM
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I always wondered if Clayton Moore was buried wearing the mask. He really lived that character.

His Memorial Service.
http://thenostalgialeague.com/olmag/ranger.htm

His daughter donated one of the original masks to the Smithsonian.
http://smithsonianmag.com/histor...tml?c=y&page=1
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:51 AM
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It's interesting to read Rand Brooks' name in that article. Apparently, from what I'd read, Scarlett O'Hara's first husband played quite a few Western villains!

You look at that kid stumbling all over Scarlett in the early scenes of GWTW and tell me if you see a villain. Now that's acting!
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Old 10-29-2015, 08:44 AM
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Another thing...

http://imdb.com/title/tt0032590/
(Movie from 1940 titled Hi-yo Silver)

http://comics.org/series/873/
(Comic from 1953 titled Hi-yo Silver)
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Old 10-29-2015, 12:28 PM
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I know this thread is a zombie...but I can't help noting something: Songs like "Hi Ho Silver Lining" (the linked version being the best known one by Jeff Beck, but the original was/is by The Attack) certainly couldn't have helped the 'Hi Ho!' versus 'Hi Yo!' confusion.
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Old 10-29-2015, 02:10 PM
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I know it's a zombie, but The Lone Ranger airs every day on Cozi TV. I watch it regularly and the Masked Man, whether it's Clayton Moore or John Hart, always says "Hi-Yo, Silver!" The narrator at the beginning of each episode also repeats, "A fiery horse with the speed of light, a cloud of dust, and a hearty 'Hi-Yo, Silver!' The Lone Ranger."
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Old 10-29-2015, 02:26 PM
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The Lone ranger and Tonto slept under the stars near a campfire all the time. Nor wold it have been unlikely they shared a bed in some kind of hotel had there actually been such characters. Of course Tonto would know. Now if it had been that Jay Silverheels knew Clayton Moore slept with the mask on, that might have raised some questions.
For those who have never seen the full-length feature film with Clayton Moore and Jay Silverheels, they slept under the stars around a campfire fully clothed: mask, boots, gunbelt, bandana, the whole shmear. And they woke up fresh as a daisy, without needing a morning toilette!
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Old 10-29-2015, 03:45 PM
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I know it's a zombie, but The Lone Ranger airs every day on Cozi TV. I watch it regularly and the Masked Man, whether it's Clayton Moore or John Hart, always says "Hi-Yo, Silver!" The narrator at the beginning of each episode also repeats, "A fiery horse with the speed of light, a cloud of dust, and a hearty 'Hi-Yo, Silver!' The Lone Ranger."
Heck, you don't even need a TV. Here's a whole bunch of episodes; you can listen to every one and hear it yourself.
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Here's some amusing "Lone Ranger" trivia: According to John Hart, who played the Lone Ranger in 52 episodes of the series, the Ranger's horse Silver and Tonto's horse Scout didn't like each other.

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Hart also noted with amusement that the Ranger’s famous horse Silver and Tonto’s horse Scout did not get along. “They hated each other, it was really funny,” he said. “We’d pull up and have some dialogue and the horses would start nipping at each other and dancing around.” The misbehaving horses often forced the actors to shoot their close-ups in saddles mounted on sawhorses, Hart said.
http://for-your-eyes-only.com/Si...Hart_obit.html
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