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Old 06-13-2004, 03:51 AM
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Significance of "Al-Aqsa"

Ok. I know most of you aren't rap fans, but theres a rapper named Immortal Technique who says this "Its like the prescription pills when you misusin em nigga/ the Templar Knights, when they took Jerusalam nigga/ and figured out what was buried under Solomon's Temple/ Al-Aqsa, the name is not coincidental"

I've done a lot of googling, and asked a number of Muslim friends, but i can not for the life of me figure out why the name Al-Aqsa would not be coincidental. It means The Farthest. I get everything in there up until that part. Does anyone know?
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Old 06-13-2004, 10:45 AM
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There's a terrorist group in Lebanon(?) called the Al-Aqsa Martyr's Brigade. Maybe the guy in the song is referencing terrorism?
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Old 06-13-2004, 11:19 AM
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Not everything with an Arabic name is about terrorism.

The Al-Aqsa mosque is part of the Al-Haram al-Sharif complex in Jerusalem (it also includes the Dome of the Rock). It was the place where the Knights Templar establised their first base. Somewhere around 1200, they were supposed to have excavated the site, but exactly what was found (if anything) is unknown. There are stories that they uncovered the Ark of the Covenant.

What this has to do with prescription drugs is beyond me
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Old 06-13-2004, 11:22 AM
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There's a terrorist group in Lebanon(?) called the Al-Aqsa Martyr's Brigade.
The Al-Aqsa Martyr's Brigade is
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The brigades are a group of West Bank militias affiliated with Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat’s al-Fatah faction and have been one of the driving forces behind the current Palestinian intifada (uprising).
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Old 06-13-2004, 11:24 AM
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I would assume it's a reference to the Al-Aqsa mosque, but you probably already found that out through googling & your friends. I'm not quite sure why they used the word "coincidental" in there, though — maybe just to keep the flow?
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Old 06-13-2004, 12:04 PM
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I would assume it's a reference to the Al-Aqsa mosque, but you probably already found that out through googling & your friends. I'm not quite sure why they used the word "coincidental" in there, though — maybe just to keep the flow?
Yeah i would have thought so too but then in the liner notes he references it again. I assume its some sort of conspiracy theory
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Old 06-13-2004, 12:19 PM
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Is this a reference to the illuminati?

Illuminati being inheritors to the legacy of the Templars and bent on controlling the world, did they also inherent the Templar discovery from Al-Aqsa and, using that, will set up poor Muslim martyrs as patsies to their plan for world domination by first destabilizing all nations and then imposing their New World Order?

Obviously, the Zionist plan for world domination interferes with the Illuminati plan, so the poor, innocent Muslim martyrs are being directed against the Jewish conspiracy and its headquarters in Jerusalem. The Illuminati, though, being clever enough to hide concrete proof of their existance can not resist such a Bond-like affectation to name their brigade of poor, innocent Muslim martyrs after the temple in which the Templars made the discovery that will enable the Illuminati to crush the Zionsit conspiracy and thereby guarantee that the Illuminati, and only the Illuminati, can control the world.

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Old 06-13-2004, 12:25 PM
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The lyrics for the whole song can be found here (warning: CAPLOCK CRIME). There doesn't seem to be any linear narrative, just a bunch of random conspiracy related stuff. Conspiracies don't get much better/bigger/sillier than the Knight's Templars. I don't think it links to the drugs line. That conspiracy would be along the line that drug companies deliberately make prescription drugs addictive or something.
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Old 10-29-2012, 05:54 AM
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Google "asqala(n)", which is of course "al aqsa" backwards and go from there. Solomon in his latter years, had his heart turned towards the gods of his many wives and concumbines. One of which is goddess Astarte or Ashteroth in the Bible. Very interesting.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:40 AM
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Maybe he's referring to the coincidence of "Al Aqsa" meaning "the farthest" sounding similar to "Alaska" which is quite remote?
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:42 AM
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I bet it has to do with zombies.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:10 PM
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OK...I'm 8 years late. About right. Never put off til tomorrow what you can put off forever...

"Solomon's Temple...not coincidental..."

It rhymes. Sort of. Highly unlikely that the rapper scholar here had much more in mind beyond that, plus a general vague sense of the exotic and mysterious.

http://immortaltechnique.co.uk/T...-Tech-s-Lyrics
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:34 PM
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I assume that's a picture of him on the website with the caption "The Martyr". So maybe it is a reference to the al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade. That doesn't quite fit in with what the song is talking about, but its narrative is a bit weak to begin with.

Was he using the sobriquet "The Martyr" back in 2004?
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Old 10-29-2012, 01:04 PM
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Not everything with an Arabic name is about terrorism.
Yeah, bringing up the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade is like answering a question about what "Republican" means by mentioning the IRA.

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Old 10-29-2012, 03:03 PM
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Google "asqala(n)", which is of course "al aqsa" backwards and go from there. Solomon in his latter years, had his heart turned towards the gods of his many wives and concumbines. One of which is goddess Astarte or Ashteroth in the Bible. Very interesting.
Did you just figure that the letter game would be significant? Or are you an in-grouper who knows?

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Old 10-29-2012, 08:43 PM
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Could it just be a weak pun, Al Aqsa/ "I'll ask/aks ya'"?
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:42 AM
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Could it just be a weak pun, Al Aqsa/ "I'll ask/aks ya'"?
Highly doubt it. Otherwise, what's the point of mentioning Templars and Jerusalem?

So he says the name is not coincidental. In order to be coincidental, you need to have two incidences. One is the mosque. What's the other one? Perhaps a nickname of the rapper's? Another holy site?
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:05 PM
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Yeah, bringing up the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade is like answering a question about what "Republican" means by mentioning the IRA.
If the person in question went around saying they were in 'the army' and made vague references to setting off bombs you might at least consider the possibility. I don't think it is meant to be in the song, I just don't think it's totally out of the blue to guess that.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:12 PM
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Ok. I know most of you aren't rap fans, but theres a rapper named Immortal Technique who says this "Its like the prescription pills when you misusin em nigga/ the Templar Knights, when they took Jerusalam nigga/ and figured out what was buried under Solomon's Temple/ Al-Aqsa, the name is not coincidental"

I've done a lot of googling, and asked a number of Muslim friends, but i can not for the life of me figure out why the name Al-Aqsa would not be coincidental. It means The Farthest. I get everything in there up until that part. Does anyone know?
You listen to Immortal Technique and your name is Vinne Paz, we obviously both have good taste in rap.
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Old 05-16-2016, 02:49 PM
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In the song Point of No Return by Immortal Technique he says "Like prescription pills when you mis-using them nigga, The templar knights when they took Jerusalem niggs".
What he means is people abuse and misuse prescription drugs like the leaders of the templar knights misused most of the knights templar.
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Old 05-17-2016, 12:02 AM
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What this has to do with prescription drugs is beyond me
The next line is that the government is out to kill him.

Don't expect it to be totally rational and consistent...
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Old 05-17-2016, 12:10 AM
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Actually elsewhere in the song it refers to street crime and property crime and gang crime in USA, and saying that gang crime, drug crime, property crime (vandalism and theft) .. is justfied, eg a terrorist is justifiied... he has a cause just a terrorist, that he is going to jail again is his badge of honour, like a terrorist claiming to die for the al aksa martyrs brigade.

The whole song is a claim he cannot return to being a law abiding citizen, with justifications. he's even saying that he seeks to destroy the USA government...


BTW ... " figured out what was buried under Soloman's Temple .."

Um the bedrock ? Solomons temple was BEFORE the mosque ... then modern jerusalem reworkings.

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