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Old 01-17-2005, 11:25 PM
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Are there any super heroes whose parents are dead and have to be avenged?

Super man lost his parents when Krypton went Kaboom.

Spiderman/Pete Parker has his elderly aunt Mae. I can't remember what happened to his parents.

Batman's parents were murdered, IRC.

I don't know enough about Aquaman, Wonder Woman and the rest of the Big Time Super Heroes, but they all seem to have come from pretty tragic backgrounds and having some magical powers. In the real world, this would be the right element for a horror movie and revenge, but the goodness in their hearts prevails etc...


However, not being a comic book dor....afficiando, I was wondering do any super heroes have living parental units or even siblings? Or are they all only children, which would take away all the fun if there were two kids in the same family bitten by a radioactive spider. The web fights in the bedroom would be awesome.
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Old 01-17-2005, 11:34 PM
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Spiderman was motivated to fight crime by the murder of his Uncle Ben.

The X-Men's Storm was orphaned at an early age.

Jennifer Jones' parents (and her younger sister) were killed in the accident where she got her powers.

Magneto's family was killed by the Nazis during WWII.

Robin's parents were killed by criminals.
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Old 01-17-2005, 11:34 PM
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Wonder Woman had a sister, didn't she? Her name is Debra Winger.

Invisible Girl and The Torch (of The Fantastic Four) are brother and sister.

Bruce Banner has a close relative (maybe not a sibling) that became She-Hulk.

All of the main Inhumans are related closely.

The Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are brother and sister, as are Havok and Cyclops of the X-Men.

The list goes on and on. But most grew up under less than ideal parental situations. Except maybe Sue and Johnny Storm. I don't remember their particular back story.
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She-Hulk is Bruce Banner's cousin and Sue and Johnny Storm are brother and sister.
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Old 01-17-2005, 11:50 PM
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Of course the Hero's family has to die tragically. He can't be bothered with them being suspicious of his secret identity, harping him on not spending any time studying, or admonishing him to not hang out with such "strange people". Oh, yeah, and being used as hostages by the latest Villain of Week is bad, too.
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Old 01-17-2005, 11:56 PM
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She-Hulk is Bruce Banner's cousin and Sue and Johnny Storm are brother and sister.
Yeah, I know they are brother and sister. I was referring to their parental situation. I thought the OP was asking if all superheroes' parents are dead or otherwise absent, and I don't remember what the deal with the Storms' parents is.
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The Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are brother and sister.
And their father is Magneto. Although for many years they thought their parents were The Whizzer and Miss America (WW2-era heroes) and that they had a brother named Nuklo (he was radioactive you see). Quicksilver is or was married to the Inhuman Crystal and they have a daughter Luna. The Scarlet Witch is or was married to the Vision.

In an alt-future timeline, Spider-Man has a daughter, Mae, who goes by the alias Spider-Girl.

It used to be once upon a time that Beast Boy's foster mother, Elasti-Girl of the Doom Patrol, was murdered and he avenged her. But I think there's been a retcon and she's alive again. His step-father went by the alias Mento IIRC, had a helmet that gave him mental powers.

Also from the Doom Patrol, Celsius claimed she was married to The Chief but I think he always denied it. They used to both be dead too but may have gotten better.

Infinity Inc. from DC was made up primarily of second-generation heroes. Two off the top of my head are Jade and Obsidian, the children of the Golden Age Green Lantern. Fury used to be the Golden Age Wonder Woman's daughter but that's been retconned. I'm not even going to attempt to explain the tangle that is Wonder Woman's backstory, and you couldn't pay me to try to explain Donna Troy's.

The current Flash is the nephew by marriage of the Silver Age Flash. Impulse is a relative of his from the future, and we've seen a dozen or so future Flashes, all of whom are descended from one Flash or another. Another DC speedster, Jessie Quick, is IIRC the daughter of Johnny Quick.

Hawkeye and Mockingbird were married, as were Yellowjacket and the Wasp.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:07 AM
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The Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are brother and sister, as are Havok and Cyclops of the X-Men.
Wanda and Pietro's father is Magneto. Talk about family drama!

And the Brothers Summers' father is Corsair of the Starjammers.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:13 AM
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I don't believe they'll play it this way in the movies but in the X-Men wasn't Mystique revealed to be NightCrawler's mother?
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:19 AM
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Family units of various DC superheroes, that I know of:

Superman's adoptive parents are still alive and well - and raising Superboy, who is, in a way, his son.

Tim Drake (the current Robin)'s father was alive until very recently. I can't remember what happened to his mother, but IIRC, she was killed some time back.

Jim Gordon (father of Barbara Gordon, AKA Batgirl/Oracle) is still alive, last I checked. Although her mother died...before she was ever introduced.

The current Wonder Girl's mother is still around. I don't know about her father.

Impulse has only seen his mother once since coming to the 21st century. She may as well be dead - even if she even exists any more in the new 31st century. His father was dead before he was sent back.

Superboy never had real parents (being cloned from Superman and Lex Luthor*), but as I said, he's being raised by the Kents (as their nephew).

Stargirl/Star Spangled Kid's mother is alive, as is her stepfather
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(assuming the current JSA storyline goes well for her)
, although I'm not sure if her parents are divorced, or if her father's dead. She has a younger half-brother.

Wonder Woman's mother only died (relatively) recently - a year or two ago, real time, IIRC. Her father would be thousands of years dead.

Some more complicated ones (as if some of those didn't get complex enough):

Jade and Obsidion are the children of the Golden Age Green Lantern (Alan Scott), who's still alive. I'm not sure on their mother's status. She left Alan before the children were born, then gave them up for adoption. I think Jade's adoptive parents (the Haydens) are still alive, and she has a standard independant young adult/parent relationship with them, and she has someting of a relationship with her father. Obsidian killed his adoptive father. I don't know the status of his adoptive mother. Given his being crazy and evil, any relationship he has with Alan would be strained.

David Knight, the second-to-last Starman's father and younger brother were both alive when he was killed. His mother had died well before this. His father, Ted, was still alive for a while after Jack (the younger brother) took over. He was eventually murdered, but I don't think that effected Jack's attitude towards his carreer as a superhero one way or another. Getting married and having a child, did cause him to retire, though, and he started as a hero in order to avenge David.

Connor Hawk (Green Arrow II)'s father, Oliver Queen (Green Arrow I) is alive. But he wasn't for a time. Since coming back to life, he's developed a very close relationship with Connor, though. (He'd left Connor's mother soon after Connor's birth.) If Connor's mother is alive, he isn't shown to have a substantive relationship with her. At least not in the current series, I haven't read the one he starred in.

Ollie's also a father figure to Roy Harper and Mia Dearden, Speedies I and II. Roy's an orphan, Mia's a runaway.

(* We don't need to get into the full story of Superboy's cloning. It gets...weird.)
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:26 AM
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Yeah, I know they are brother and sister. I was referring to their parental situation. I thought the OP was asking if all superheroes' parents are dead or otherwise absent, and I don't remember what the deal with the Storms' parents is.
Ah. Sorry. My mistake then. I don't know either.



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I don't believe they'll play it this way in the movies but in the X-Men wasn't Mystique revealed to be NightCrawler's mother?
Yes. He was her son to a demon masquerading as a German baron.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:45 AM
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Obsidian killed his adoptive father. I don't know the status of his adoptive mother. Given his being crazy and evil, any relationship he has with Alan would be strained.
He got help for his crazy evilness in a fairly recent JSA arc...unless you're talking about something that happened after that.
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Old 01-18-2005, 01:01 AM
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I think the Huntress's family was killed in a mob hit. Daredevil put on the costume to avenge his boxer dad who was killed by mobsters.

Most superheroes are orphans. From a storytelling point of view, it makes sense because a stable two-parent family would hold most kids back from the life of adventure heroes pursue.
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Old 01-18-2005, 01:03 AM
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Really? I have a huge gap in my JSA reading. First couple arcs, and then the first issue of the current one are all I have. Currently working on catching up. About when does this happen?
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Old 01-18-2005, 01:04 AM
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OK, my last post there was in response to Necro, of course.
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Green Lantern Hal Jordan had a younger brother who was killed in a drunk driving accident.

Reed and Sue Richards have two children, Franklin and Valeria (although the exact circumstances of Valeria's conception are a bit murky, and there's the very slight possibility that she's Doctor Doom's daughter).

The Power Pack was a group of four siblings all granted powers.

Chris Claremont's original plan for Mystique to be Nightcrawler's father, but Marvel apparently nixed that or Claremont just let it drop like so many other plot threads he started then did nothing with.

Roy Harper, the first Speedy and currently Arsenal, has a young daughter or niece that he is raising.

Plastic Man has a son with the same powers he has, but more powerful (he can change colors).

Wally West (Flash) has both parents still alive. His mother is a shrew, and his father is a sometimes villain.
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Old 01-18-2005, 01:27 AM
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It begins with issue 46, the Princes of Darkness arc, and ends with issue 52. It's very good.
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Old 01-18-2005, 01:31 AM
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..the exact circumstances of Valeria's conception are a bit murky, and there's the very slight possibility that she's Doctor Doom's daughter..
What's the story there?
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Old 01-18-2005, 02:09 AM
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What's the story there?
Ok, this is from memory, so I might get some details wrong, but this is the gist of it.

When Franklin was born, Sue very nearly miscarried, killing her and Franklin. Reed and the others went on a mission to the Negative Zone to find a cure for the radiation, and saved them both just in time.

A couple hundred issues ago, Sue was pregnant with her second child. A similar radiation sickness manifested, but this time Reed was unable to cure her, and they lost the baby, who might have been Valeria.

Fast forward to Volume 3. The FF briefly go to an alternate future where Sue is married to Doom, and they have a teenaged daughter named Valeria. When they come back, Valeria comes with them and for a while fights alongside them.

At one point, Reed gets trapped in Doom's armor, and Sue announces that she's marrying him, implying that the Doom in the alternate future may have actually been Reed in Doom's armor.

A cosmic entity starts playing games with reality, and either Reed or Johnny determines that the only way to fix things is to reassemble the Ultimate Nullifier that scared off Galactus in their first encounter. The parts have been scattered into various parallel universes, and they go through some adventures to gather and reassemble them. In the final battle with the cosmic entity, Franklin fires the Nullifier, and apparently uses his natural powers to fix things back to the way they should be.

Reality is restored, Galactus is brought back to life, Valeria is gone, and suddenly Sue is eight-months' pregnant--a magical conception. When she gives birth, Reed is away, so Johnny goes to the only other person he knows of who can save Sue and the baby--Doom. Doom saves the baby, and insists that his payment be that he be allowed to name her, which he does--Valeria. This turns out to be the name of the first girl he ever loved.

Here's the conundrum. Is the magically restored pregnancy the one that resulted in Sue's first miscarriage? If so, Reed is clearly the father. Or is this the teen Valeria from the alternate future deaged to birth age? If so this would seem to indicate that it was Doom's daughter, but is it the actual Dr. Doom, or the Reed in Doom's armor Doom?

The assumption is that it's Reeds child, but there's always the hint of a possibility there that might be exploited later, kinda like the hint that Mary Jane's baby might have survived her poisoning and been delivered to the Green Goblin or one of his henchmen.

Magical pregnancies are so messy when it comes to determining paternity.

Mark Waid has wisely avoided the issue of who is Valeria's father, but used the setup to good effect--Valeria's first word was Doom, and Doom used her as a mystic portal to spy on the FF and send Franklin to hell briefly.
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Old 01-18-2005, 02:22 AM
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At one point, Reed gets trapped in Doom's armor, and Sue announces that she's marrying him, implying that the Doom in the alternate future may have actually been Reed in Doom's armor.
Huh? Did Reed and Sue get a divorce somewhere? AFAIK, they got married by Stan-n-Jack and have never separated since.
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Old 01-18-2005, 02:39 AM
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Thanks, Kaitlyn. All I know about the F4, I learned through cartoons so my knowledge of them is obviously limited.
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Old 01-18-2005, 03:27 AM
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Huh? Did Reed and Sue get a divorce somewhere? AFAIK, they got married by Stan-n-Jack and have never separated since.
Ok, this is complicated. In the alternate future, we see Sue married to Doom, and they have a teenaged daughter named Valeria.

After returning from the future, the FF go to an alternate universe the Franklin created and which Doom is trying to take over. Somehow, Reed and Doom are cosmically switched. Reed ends up in Doom's armor, and Doom is somewhere else. The FF know that it's Reed in the armor, but nobody else does. Because she loves Reed, Sue announces to the world that she's going to marry Doom (really Reed).

This is where my speculation that the future Doom that Sue was married to was really Reed in Doom's armor.

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Reed and Sue actually have been separated, most notably while Reed was dead for a while.

All of this stuff is from the Chris Claremont run which was an amazingly bad rehash of ideas from his early X-Men and Excaliber stories.

If anybody likes the FF enought to want to read some of the better stories, there are three sets you want to look for. The first is the original Lee/Kirby run, currently available in Essential (cheap) and Masterworks (expensive, but worth it). This covers issues 1-100, but the first 60 to 70 are the meat of the run.

The second set you'd want to look for is the John Byrne run, issues 232--296. He was the artist for about a year before 232, but then took over as writer also. There's only one trade available, but the individual issues are rather inexpensive, and can usually be had for about a dollar each on eBay.

You can then just skip everything else until you get to Vol. 3, number 60 throught the current 520 (the numbering changed midway). This is when Mark Waid took over as writer and his favored artist Mike Weiringo as penciller (they did a very good Flash together 10 years ago). This is old-fashioned superhero storytelling at it's best.
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Old 01-18-2005, 03:43 AM
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No, Reed and Sue never divorced. He was imprisoned in Doom's armor by a ticked-off Celestial while Doom was sent to an alternate Earth (don't ask). Reed pretended he was Doom to stop Doom's evil allies, and so he married Sue as "Doctor Doom". Later the whole thing was sorted out, Doom came back and reclaimed his armor. So Susan and Reed never divorced, and she was never married to Doom legally in this timeline -- since of course it was Reed under the armor.

After his family (parents and a sister in flashbacks) died in the Holocaust, Erik Lehnsherr escaped Auschwitz alongside a Gypsy girl named Magda. They traveled through Eastern Europe, settled in a little village, and married. A daughter was born to them named Anya, who died in a house fire. In a fit of rage, Erik killed everyone in their village with his magnetic powers except Magda, who fled from him in terror. Unbeknownest to him, she was pregnant at the time.

Magda made it to Wundagore Mountain where she gave birth to her twins, Wanda and Pietro, then ran outside to die in the snow. The twins were adopted by Gypsies and Erik (now Magneto) didn't know they existed until years later. Somewhere along the way he fathered another daughter, Lorna, with an unknown woman. Lorna is of course the X-Men's Polaris, and Pietro and Wanda are Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch of the Avengers.

Whew. I'll leave Mystique's entire extended family to someone else. But did Marvel ever explain what was up with the whole Mephisto/Satan/Lucifer thing? There were 3 or 4 different devils, all claiming to rule hell, who between them fathered several heroes/villains of varying note.
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My take on the Claremont issues--and the more recent Waid stories with Doom--is that the vengeful Celestial did more than trap Reed in Doom's armor; he did something to mingle Reed and Doom with each other, resulting in Reed exhibiting Doom's arrogance and Doom (later) exhibiting Reed's recklessness. (Does anyone here dispute that Reed is reckless?) Franklin's actions notwithstanding, I think Valeria was conceived by someone who was 80% Reed and 20% Doom, and may have the genes of three parents.
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:45 AM
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Green Lantern Hal Jordan had a younger brother who was killed in a drunk driving accident.
Hal also has, or had, another brother, don't remember the birth order, who's son is named Hal Jordan, aka Air Wave. And young Hal has spent time visiting another part of the Jordan family in Texas, but I can't remember the names or exact relationship.
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And both of their parents were alive the last I knew.
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Roy Harper, the first Speedy and currently Arsenal, has a young daughter or niece that he is raising.
It is his daughter, the mother is the assassain Cheshire, a mass murder who set off a nuclear weapon in one of the small Middle Easter countries in the DC world.

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The current Flash is the nephew by marriage of the Silver Age Flash. Impulse is a relative of his from the future, and we've seen a dozen or so future Flashes, all of whom are descended from one Flash or another. Another DC speedster, Jessie Quick, is IIRC the daughter of Johnny Quick.
Not all of the future Flashes are descended from others. John Fox, now in the 853rd century is one that is completely unrelated. Iris Allen and Barry Allen (Flash II) are Impulse's grandparents, XS is his cousin. Impulse and XS are the children of Don and Dawn Allen, the Tornado Twins, the children of Barry and Iris. (This is actually up in the air right now, since the latest Legion reboot. OTOH, since Mark Waid is the writer, I am pretty confident that XS and family history still exists.) Don and Dawn are both dead unfortunately.
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Old 01-18-2005, 08:21 AM
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Magical pregnancies are so messy when it comes to determining paternity.
As The Vision and Scarlet Witch know so well. At one point (their second, 12-issue mini-series) Wanda channeled what she thought was the mystic energy of the residents of New Salem, the end result being a mystical pregnancy. Everyone thought she was carrying one child but she was actually carrying two, the second of which was invisible to any sort of detection like ultrasound. I think they named the kids William (after Simon Williams, Wonder Man, whose "brain engrams" were imprinted on the Vision's circuitry so they think of themselves as "brothers" after a fashion, much to the chagrin of Simon Williams' actual brother Erik, an evil fellow known as the Grim Reaper, now deceased) and Thomas (after Thomas Horton, the man who supposedly created the original Human Torch android whose body was supposed to have been revamped by Ultron into the Vision, and who was step-father to Frankie Ray, later to become Nova, one-time member of the Fantastic Four and later herald of Galactus, except it turned out that the Vision wasn't really the Torch after all, good god this is complicated). IIRC, the kids turned out actually to be bits of the essence of Mephisto, who later reclaimed them and turned them into his arms.
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IIRC, the kids turned out actually to be bits of the essence of Mephisto, who later reclaimed them and turned them into his arms.
I'm wrong. They were bits of the essence of a human mystic whose name escapes me. He sought power from a demon, perhaps Mephisto, who tore off his arms and legs and replaced them with demons. Anyone remember his name? He appeared in Avengers West Coast. He was looking for pieces of his missing soul, represented by a star-shaped hole in his belly. Anyone?
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I'm wrong. They were bits of the essence of a human mystic whose name escapes me. He sought power from a demon, perhaps Mephisto, who tore off his arms and legs and replaced them with demons. Anyone remember his name? He appeared in Avengers West Coast. He was looking for pieces of his missing soul, represented by a star-shaped hole in his belly. Anyone?
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I don't believe they'll play it this way in the movies but in the X-Men wasn't Mystique revealed to be NightCrawler's mother?
For many years the rumor was that Claremont intended that Mystique be Nightcrawler's father, having fathered him on Desitny, but that Marvel wouldn't go for it when the characters were introduced in the '70's and the storyline was dropped.

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I think the Huntress's family was killed in a mob hit.
Nuh-uh. No way. The Huntress is Batman's daughter. Always will be. That other fake Huntress they replaced her with after Crisis didn't happen. Nope. Never happened. Like Highlander 2.
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That'd be the guy. I remembered his name about 10 minutes after I posted. Amazing the stockpiles of completely useless information that I retain.
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Donna Troy is sort of related to Wonder Woman insofar as she was created from Diana's reflection.

Hawkman and Hawkwoman's son is currently Dr. Fate.

The new Supergirl is Superman's cousin (again).
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You can then just skip everything else until you get to Vol. 3
I'd agree with one exception: the Walt Simonson run of Fantastic Four, though brief (about 334-354) is absolutely essential. Time travel, dinosaurs, the best Reed/Doom battle I've ever seen, and of course, Rosebud II.
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I'd agree with one exception: the Walt Simonson run of Fantastic Four, though brief (about 334-354) is absolutely essential. Time travel, dinosaurs, the best Reed/Doom battle I've ever seen, and of course, Rosebud II.
Good point. Add that to the list.
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