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Old 04-15-2006, 06:13 PM
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Cigars? Cigarettes? Tiparillos? Um, What Happened to Tiparillos?

You hear this line in the old movies, but I'm not sure I have ever seen a tiparillo.

What are tiparillos? Are they still widely sold--and popular? What is the user demographic?
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Old 04-15-2006, 06:18 PM
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One place to get Tiparillos
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I see them all the time at a local quickie mart. I've tried one or two in the past.
The end of it doesn't get all wet and chewed up like a regular 'gar does. Unless you're into biting on plastic.
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Old 04-15-2006, 07:34 PM
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Cheap small-medium cigars with a plastic tip. Now big with black men. However, the plastic apparently makes it easier to inhale the cigar smoke- which is not a good thing.
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Old 04-15-2006, 08:06 PM
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Carnac the Magnificent! writes:

> Cigars? Cigarettes? Tiparillos? Um, What Happened to Tiparillos?
>
> You hear this line in the old movies, but I'm not sure I have ever seen a tiparillo.
>
> What are tiparillos? Are they still widely sold--and popular? What is the user
> demographic?

This is a somewhat strange question. Was this line ever used in any movie? I'm pretty sure that Tiparillo is a brand name. I don't believe that this line was ever used in a movie. If you remember it, it's because you remember the Tiparilllos TV advertisements of the 1960's. The advertisements show a cigarette girl (do those even exist anymore?) wandering through a nightclub, holding a tray of tobacco products before here which she would sell to the customers. As she walked, she would say, "Cigars, cigarettes, Tiparillos." I suspect the subtext of the advertisements was "Hey, Tiparillos are classy items, sold with premium cigarettes and cigars." I further suspect that this was never true, and in fact Tiparillos were always low-class products.
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Old 04-15-2006, 08:38 PM
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I'm pretty sure that Tiparillo is a brand name. I don't believe that this line was ever used in a movie. If you remember it, it's because you remember the Tiparilllos TV advertisements of the 1960's.
Indeed, I think the movie line was "cigars, cigarettes, cigarillos.

Cigarillos are small filter-tipped cigars -- they look exactly like a cigarette except for the tobacco wrap (I assume it's tobacco. It's brown and looks like tobacco.)

There are still a few of those around. Winchester is the brand I see most around here.
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Old 04-15-2006, 11:07 PM
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The line that I remember from commercials is definitely "Cigars, cigarettes, Tiparillos":

http://tvacres.com/tobacco_slogans.htm

When I Google on "cigars cigarettes cigarillos", I get a few hits. In each case though, it's just part of a list of tobacco products. Does anyone remember any specific movies in which either of the lines "Cigars, cigarettes, cigarillos" or "Cigars, cigarettes, Tiparillos" appears? If you say it sounds vaguely familiar, but you don't remember a specific movie, I suspect that you're just remembering the commercial.
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Old 04-15-2006, 11:45 PM
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Cheap small-medium cigars with a plastic tip. Now big with black men. However, the plastic apparently makes it easier to inhale the cigar smoke- which is not a good thing.
I'm probably alive because of Tiparillos. I decided to quite smoking after two successive sessions with bronchial pneumonia. The second time I decided to smoke Tiparillos because I wouldn't inhale the smoke. I thought they were so awful that after a trying a couple I threw rest away and decided that no smoking at all was preferable to that.

I was a 2-3 pack a day man and probably would be long since dead but for Tiparillos.
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Old 04-16-2006, 12:02 AM
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I'm confused, but want to add a few things...there is a difference (at least around here) between cigarellos and little cigars...basically, little cigars are like cigarettes, but 100s, and usually taste like a cheap cigar. My father smokes Winchester Little Cigars...not half as bad as the swishers...also, cigarellos (where I live) are sold to many stoners...basically because they are smaller than shells (normal single blunts) and cheaper by pack than papers/wraps...I worked at a carryout...we carried cigarettes, about every kind you can imagine; cigarellos, usually just swishers or black/mild fastbreaks; Tips...which meant black/mild regulars, apples, or the swisher plastic (or wood) tips; and blunt shells, regular blunts that were relatively cheap...
also, we carried tubes, which are cigar rolling papers that could come in any flavor...we carried about 50 flavors from french vanilla and peach cognac to mild and peach...

hope that all helps...
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Old 04-16-2006, 06:23 AM
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Matthew1 writes:

> hope that all helps...

It doesn't. I can't make any sense what you've written. Look, could you please give us a one-sentence definition of each of the following terms?:

Cigars

Cigarettes

Cigarillos

Little Cigars

Swishers

Tips

Blunts

Shells

Tubes

Please give each definition as a separate paragraph. Don't run the sentences together with three dots. That's not only ungrammatical, it makes for incomprehensible posts.
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Old 04-16-2006, 07:16 AM
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But...that would...make sense...? Damn it, Spock!
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Old 04-16-2006, 10:14 AM
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Carnac the Magnificent! writes:

> Cigars? Cigarettes? Tiparillos? Um, What Happened to Tiparillos?
>
> You hear this line in the old movies, but I'm not sure I have ever seen a tiparillo.
>
> What are tiparillos? Are they still widely sold--and popular? What is the user
> demographic?

This is a somewhat strange question. Was this line ever used in any movie? I'm pretty sure that Tiparillo is a brand name. I don't believe that this line was ever used in a movie. If you remember it, it's because you remember the Tiparilllos TV advertisements of the 1960's. The advertisements show a cigarette girl (do those even exist anymore?) wandering through a nightclub, holding a tray of tobacco products before here which she would sell to the customers. As she walked, she would say, "Cigars, cigarettes, Tiparillos." I suspect the subtext of the advertisements was "Hey, Tiparillos are classy items, sold with premium cigarettes and cigars." I further suspect that this was never true, and in fact Tiparillos were always low-class products.


Tut, tut old man, I'm *certain* I've heard this line in movies, but can't cite. It was indeed quite popular in the old advertising days--or so I've been told. Before my time, eh Wat?


"Tiparillo Theme (Cigars, Cigarettes, Tiparillos)"
[Robert Burns Tiparillos]
words and music by Clay Warnick;
Copyright by General Cigar Co, Inc.
(c) Nov. 29, 1962; EP 170 036.

http://classicthemes.com/50sTVTh...ldJingles.html


Tiparillos "Cigars? Cigarettes? Tiparillos?" (1964)
"Should a gentleman offer a Tiparillo to a lady?"

http://tvacres.com/tobacco_slogans.htm

Cigars, Cigarettes, Tiparillos? Hell, yes. Nightclubs used to have Playboy Bunny types walking around with wooden shelves strapped to their magnificently sculpted backs, full of tobacco product. Right to your table. Lung dart, monsieur? Shore! Thankee, baby!

http://velociworld.com/Velociblo...ty/000294.html
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Old 04-16-2006, 10:27 AM
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Tampa Nuggets were similar products, with a wooden tip instead of a plastic one. They were almost mild enough to inhale for the "average" cigarette smoker. Tiparillos were just another variety of smoking products of the period and the ads for them were designed to move people away from either cigars or cigarettes to the ostensibly fashionable alternative. I can't recall any particular success of the ad campaign and I doubt if it ran more than a year or two in its heyday. (I could be wrong, of course, as I'm going purely from memory.)

For the real student of alternative smoking products, there were also Between The Acts and Picayunes which were heavy duty cigarette-looking things that were at least as strong as some full-sized cigars. I knew several hard-core smokers who preferred them. I tried them and almost gagged. But then I was partial to filter-tipped cigarettes like Winston and Salem and their rivals. Even Camels and Lucky Strikes were too strong for me.

It would be a strange list to produce of all the brands of cigars and cigarettes and their offshoots that have been produced for mass consumption. I'd wager it would run into the thousands.
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Old 04-16-2006, 11:26 AM
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It would be a strange list to produce of all the brands of cigars and cigarettes and their offshoots that have been produced for mass consumption. I'd wager it would run into the thousands.
[Sidelight]The Army camps in France through which troops were funneled to and from the US and Britain in WWII were named, Twenty Grand, Phillip Morris, Lucky Strike, etc. All the names of cigarettes of the time.[/sidelight]
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Old 04-16-2006, 11:43 AM
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Matthew1 writes:

> hope that all helps...

It doesn't. I can't make any sense what you've written. Look, could you please give us a one-sentence definition of each of the following terms?:
Stuff I can help with...

Swishers - These are a brand name of machine-rolled (mass-produced) cigars. They come in many varieties and are popular with the hip-hop crowd, for some reason. (Personally, I was never a fan.) They come in different styles - "Swisher Sweets" are popular, for example.

Tips - Wooden or plastic mouthpieces that come attached to cigars, kind of like a very short pipe stem. "Tiparillos" are a brand, I think from Swisher, of small cigars (about finger-sized) that come with tips on them. It's a pun on "cigarillo," which, I believe, is just a small cigar.
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Old 04-16-2006, 11:43 AM
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[Sidelight]The Army camps in France through which troops were funneled to and from the US and Britain in WWII were named, Twenty Grand, Phillip Morris, Lucky Strike, etc. All the names of cigarettes of the time.[/sidelight]
To add to your sidelight, I remember reading (can't cite a source -- sorry) that it was a WWI phenomenon that doughboys were treated to free cigarettes during the war years (and perhaps afterward while they were still in the service). This contributed to the rapid expansion of cigarette smoking and the ultimate addiction by several generations to tobacco. The TV ads during the 50's and early 60's until the advent of the Surgeon General's warnings made smoking not only acceptable but desirable. There were even doctors (probably not real doctors but guys who played doctors on TV ) advocating some brand over others for its "healthy" attributes.

If there's been a bigger corporate scam on the nation's health than the tobacco one, I need to know about it.

Neither of my parents smoked and none of my aunts, but most of my uncles and one of my grandfathers were smokers. Most of my high school classmates and college fellows (male and female) smoked. It was the thing to do in those days.

I have quit several times. Most recently about two years ago. The only excuse I ever had after I turned 30 was weight control. There's a neat ad running these days that addresses that aspect of smoking.

End of sidelight.
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Old 04-16-2006, 01:47 PM
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Carnac the Magnificent!, all those websites you give are references to the commercials. Did you even notice that one of them is the same website that I gave in my second post? That's not independent evidence that the line was used anywhere except in the commercials. I still think that you're remembering the commercials and mistakenly thinking that your memory comes from a movie. Does anyone remember a specific movie that this line comes from?
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Old 04-16-2006, 01:59 PM
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To add to your sidelight, I remember reading (can't cite a source -- sorry) that it was a WWI phenomenon that doughboys were treated to free cigarettes during the war years (and perhaps afterward while they were still in the service). This contributed to the rapid expansion of cigarette smoking and the ultimate addiction by several generations to tobacco. The TV ads during the 50's and early 60's until the advent of the Surgeon General's warnings made smoking not only acceptable but desirable. There were even doctors (probably not real doctors but guys who played doctors on TV ) advocating some brand over others for its "healthy" attributes.

If there's been a bigger corporate scam on the nation's health than the tobacco one, I need to know about it.

Neither of my parents smoked and none of my aunts, but most of my uncles and one of my grandfathers were smokers. Most of my high school classmates and college fellows (male and female) smoked. It was the thing to do in those days.

I have quit several times. Most recently about two years ago. The only excuse I ever had after I turned 30 was weight control. There's a neat ad running these days that addresses that aspect of smoking.

End of sidelight.
In WWII every ration box, K, C, D contained cigarettes and matches. In the PX overseas cigarettes were 5 cents a pack.
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Old 04-16-2006, 04:42 PM
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You hear this line in the old movies, but I'm not sure I have ever seen a tiparillo.
I doubt if this line was ever uttered in an old movie. It's entirely from a commercial. Not that the commercial might not have been parodied afterwards, sure.
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Old 04-16-2006, 05:26 PM
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In WWII every ration box, K, C, D contained cigarettes and matches. In the PX overseas cigarettes were 5 cents a pack.
If you poke around a bit, you find that the US military didn't eliminate cigarettes from the field rations until 1975. In the WWII era, they probably felt it was no worse than including chewing gum or bar of chocolate. Yeah, not exactly GOOD for you, but if we can easily provide a small pleasure for the poor sod out there in the mud getting shot at, it's worth doing, for morale if nothing else. As Surgeon General's reports started piling up, it took them a couple of decades to do away with something that had been a bit of a tradition.

Advertising contributed heavily to the tobacco problem long before the 50s and 60s. One of the triumphs in the career of Edward Bernays, sometimes called "The Father of Public Relations", was a campaign mounted in the 1920s to make it acceptable for women to smoke in public. He did so by making it an emancipation issue, as well as giving free reign to Freudian erotic fantasies:
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Some women regard cigarettes as symbols of freedom. Smoking is a sublimation of oral eroticism; holding a cigarette in the mouth excites the oral zone. It is perfectly normal for women to want to smoke cigarettes… But today the emancipation of women has suppressed many of their feminine desires. More women now do the same work as men do… Cigarettes, which are equated with men, become torches of freedom.
(To be fair to Bernays, in 1929 he couldn't have known that cigarettes were all that harmful, and in the mid-1950s, when he had to confront the mounting evidence of health risks, he stopped working for the tobacco companies and became a vocal critic of tobacco, attempting unsuccesfully to get PR professional organizations to urge their members to stop promoting it.)
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Old 04-16-2006, 07:57 PM
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Carnac the Magnificent!, all those websites you give are references to the commercials. Did you even notice that one of them is the same website that I gave in my second post? That's not independent evidence that the line was used anywhere except in the commercials.

I know, I know.
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waaaaaay too old of a post but here goes...

im watching the film "the fortune cookie" and looked up the product and it led me here.

scene: lemmon is being watched by some private eyes. hes using a walker in the athletes apt.

the PI's are chatting it up, when one of em says theyre off to the store. the guy who stays is asked if he needs anything.

he lists off a couple things and at the tail end says... (and im paraphrasing) "oh yea and some tiparillos"

'bout halfway through the film.

the fortune cookie is one of the many lemmon/matthau films. billy wilder directed/wrote.

could be another wilder film has tiparillos mentioned too?

either way. the film "the fortune cookie" does make mention of tiparillos.

cheers!
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According to Wiki they are still being made by the General Cigar Company.
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Old 09-08-2014, 10:53 AM
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zombie or no

generals won't smoke Tiparillos.
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Old 09-08-2014, 10:58 AM
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I'm probably alive because of Tiparillos. I decided to quite smoking after two successive sessions with bronchial pneumonia. The second time I decided to smoke Tiparillos because I wouldn't inhale the smoke. I thought they were so awful that after a trying a couple I threw rest away and decided that no smoking at all was preferable to that.

I was a 2-3 pack a day man and probably would be long since dead but for Tiparillos.
That's how my husband quit smoking. He thought they would help him taper down from cigarettes, but he quit Tiparillos in a very short time and hasn't gone back.

Oops, just saw how old this was.

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The line that I remember from commercials is definitely "Cigars, cigarettes, Tiparillos":

http://tvacres.com/tobacco_slogans.htm

When I Google on "cigars cigarettes cigarillos", I get a few hits. In each case though, it's just part of a list of tobacco products. Does anyone remember any specific movies in which either of the lines "Cigars, cigarettes, cigarillos" or "Cigars, cigarettes, Tiparillos" appears? If you say it sounds vaguely familiar, but you don't remember a specific movie, I suspect that you're just remembering the commercial.
I don't think that the third element offered by the cigarette girls in the clubs had anything to do with an "-illo" product. I mean, let's be real, there are only a couple of smoke products available, and I don't see one of them offering snuff, Copenhagen, or pipe tobacco, in a club.
I think that the quote went something like 'cigars, cigarettes, 1. flowers for the ladies, 2. matches, 3. anything else that the club was pimping out". It was always something that was small and could be sold as a side to the drinks and/or dinner. Back in the late 1990s, there was a 'flower girl' at the clubs I went to, who went around selling to the guys hitting on the chicks.
The 'tiparillos' ending of the familiar triad was a humorous variation on the theme.

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I ve started smoking the e cigs they are great. I feel much better
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I think that the quote went something like 'cigars, cigarettes, 1. flowers for the ladies, 2. matches, 3. anything else that the club was pimping out". It was always something that was small and could be sold as a side to the drinks and/or dinner. Back in the late 1990s, there was a 'flower girl' at the clubs I went to, who went around selling to the guys hitting on the chicks.
The 'tiparillos' ending of the familiar triad was a humorous variation on the theme.
I believe you are correct. I recall a Mad Magazine parody circa 1970 that had a cigarette girl in a mystery offering "cigars, cigarettes, clues", reenforcing the notion that humorous third options were a recognized joke.
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Old 09-09-2014, 05:37 PM
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That mystery was "Mission Ridiculous", and the "girl" was Billy the strong man, in a really impressive disguise.
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Old 09-09-2014, 08:45 PM
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My first house was built in 1915 or 1918 (Edwardian, too late to be a Victorian.

It has a small room just off the dining room (the 2 bedrooms are in back, behind the kitchen).
Since it has a closet (about 2'x3'), it is now classified as a bedroom. Before that, it was probably a "sewing room"
My guess is that it was built as a "smoking room" - after dinner, the men would go to this room, where they would remove smoking jackets from the closet and wear them while enjoying their cigars. The purpose of the smoking jacket was to absorb the smoke so it didn't get into their shirts.

This was before the women started with their "baby" cigarettes], after which the men (most of them) switched to the more acceptable cigarette, freeing up the room for other uses.
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