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Old 03-24-2007, 11:46 PM
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Harry Potter pronunciation help

I just started reading book 6 aloud to my son and can't seem to figure out how to pronounce "Scrimgeour" without sounding feeble. Apologies if this has been discussed before, but I'm avoiding spoilers and don't want to search HP threads.
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Old 03-25-2007, 12:11 AM
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This website says "Scrim-jer"

EDIT: Here's something better. There's a link to an official Harry Potter pronunciation guide. It gives the pronunciation more like "Scrim-jour".

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Old 03-25-2007, 12:46 AM
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On the audiobooks, IIRC, Jim Dale pronounced it "Scrim-jour." (Of course, in the early books he also pronounced Voldemort with a silent "t"...)
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Old 03-25-2007, 03:09 AM
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I used to have friends when I was a kid whose surname was Scrimgeour, and we used to say (as kids tend to do) "Sriminjer". In fact, I think it should be "Scrim*jer" and there's a kind of, implied but not logically present, pause between syllables.
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:12 AM
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Thanks to all.
I had a feeling it might be 'jer' -ish. But I had tried everything and at one point my 7 year-old asked if this was just one guy.
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:30 AM
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EDIT: Here's something better. There's a link to an official Harry Potter pronunciation guide. It gives the pronunciation more like "Scrim-jour".
Of course, is this "official" as in "these are the pronunciations that J.K. Rowling intended"? Or is this "official" as in "this is the way that we, the builders of this website, choose to pronounce everything"?

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On the audiobooks, IIRC, Jim Dale pronounced it "Scrim-jour."
In the audiobook, Jim Dale's pronunciation sounded almost like "Scrim-jaw" a lot of the time.

I noticed that the movie version of "Goblet of Fire" pronounced accio with a hard C sound -- "Ak-kio". Jim Dale in the audiobooks used a soft C -- "Ass-io". Hard to tell what the intended pronunciation is sometimes when official publications or adaptations (like audio books and movie versions) say things in different ways.

Is there a definitive pronunciation guide somewhere put out by (or sanctioned by) J.K. Rowling? Is that one from scholastic.com approved by the author?
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:39 AM
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EDIT: Here's something better. There's a link to an official Harry Potter pronunciation guide. It gives the pronunciation more like "Scrim-jour".
That pronunciation guide also claims that Voldemort has a silent T: "Vole-de-more".

It also seems to have a lot of poorly done breakdowns of syllables (not sure if it's intended as a true phonetic listing or not) on the right when you click one of them. Many of them seem to indicate the wrong accented syllable (assuming that the all-caps syllables indicates accent -- which would normally be a logical assumption), so that the listed accent doesn't coincide with the way the voice on the audio clip is speaking it.

I was amused by the first result when you click "Voldemort".
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Old 03-25-2007, 03:57 PM
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That pronunciation guide also claims that Voldemort has a silent T: "Vole-de-more".
Well, since he's British and not French..
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:09 PM
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I would have pronounced "Accio" as Ak/chio. And I do (not that I am saying it lots or anything....)



This could get complicated.


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That pronunciation guide also claims that Voldemort has a silent T: "Vole-de-more".
That's how Jo Rowling pronounces it, apparently. So, she should know.
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:14 AM
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OK, a question on the name Rufus Scrimgeour - does anyone know why JK Rowling chose that name for the new minister of magic? At first I thought it might be an anagram of something but I couldn't come up with anything good. Many of her names are giveaways to the character (e.g. Remus Lupin, Dolores Umbridge) but some are not (Sirius Black).
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but some are not (Sirius Black).
Sirius can change into the shape of a dog.
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That's how Jo Rowling pronounces it, apparently. So, she should know.
How do you know? (I'm not necessarily doubting you -- I'm just wondering if there's some place where Rowling has listed official pronunciations. Or has she specifically claimed the one in the link from scholastic.com is definitive?)
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:14 AM
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OK, a question on the name Rufus Scrimgeour - does anyone know why JK Rowling chose that name for the new minister of magic?
Is he red-headed?
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:33 AM
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How do you know? (I'm not necessarily doubting you -- I'm just wondering if there's some place where Rowling has listed official pronunciations. Or has she specifically claimed the one in the link from scholastic.com is definitive?)
See here, a site dedicated to gathering quotes from JKR interviews.
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Old 03-26-2007, 09:55 AM
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I've heard it pronounces Scrim Jaw.

And re: Lupin... His surname was Lupin long before he was bitten. Right?
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Old 03-26-2007, 11:17 AM
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I would have pronounced "Accio" as Ak/chio. And I do (not that I am saying it lots or anything....)



This could get complicated.

I pronounce it as I think it would be in Italian, "AH-chee-oh." You're right, this is complicated -- that's the fourth pronunciation in this thread, after your "Ak/chio," the movie's "Ak-kio," and Jim Dale's "Ass-io"!
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:00 PM
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I pronounce it as I think it would be in Italian, "AH-chee-oh." You're right, this is complicated -- that's the fourth pronunciation in this thread, after your "Ak/chio," the movie's "Ak-kio," and Jim Dale's "Ass-io"!
Then I feel obligated to add that in my head, it's pronounced "Ack-see-oh."
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:18 PM
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I've heard it pronounces Scrim Jaw.

And re: Lupin... His surname was Lupin long before he was bitten. Right?
Yes. Quite a coincidence, isn't it?

I don't think Scrimgeour is supposed be meaningful except for the way teh word sounds. It calls to mind scourge, scour and scrim (like the translucent curtain).
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:29 PM
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According to the guide, I've been putting the acCENT on the wrong sylLAble quite often. I say AL-lastor and oc-CLOO-mency, and Bellatrix's surname just needs to be pronounced "strange" instead of "strawnge".
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:41 PM
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Lestrange is a French name, so it makes sense that it would be pronounced the French way.
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Old 03-26-2007, 05:52 PM
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Sirius can change into the shape of a dog.
How could I forget? Someone even pointed it out in one of our Potter discussions here!
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:00 PM
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Is he red-headed?
Well there you go! His hair is described as "tawny", which is orange!
And as saoirse said, one can find the word "scourge" in there (which I had noticed when looking for anagrams). That could describe a no-nonsense Auror catcher who doesn't mind going a little overboard in his pursuit of evil-doers (e.g. imprisoning the innocent Stan Shunpike - and by the way, shunpike is the name of a type of back road in England from what I hear).

I guess the name of Rufus Scrimgeour was more cleverly chosen than I gave Ms. Rowling credit for.
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Old 03-26-2007, 08:57 PM
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I used to have friends when I was a kid whose surname was Scrimgeour....
I also had a friend whose surname was Scrimgeour, except I was an adult at the time. Anyway, he pronounced his name "SCRIM-jer."
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