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Old 06-23-2009, 08:59 PM
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Any ideas? Water stopped running in kitchen, but still works in bathroom.

I have never seen nor heard of such a thing. The water worked in the kitchen when I got home from work a couple of hours ago. The water is working in the bathroom... but no water coming from the kitchen faucet?

Anyone have any ideas for me?
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:23 PM
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There are (or should be) cut-off valves under the sink. Check to be sure the water hasn't been turned off there.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:23 PM
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Need more information. Both hot AND cold water?

Is this a house or an apartment? Anyone in the house who might have hit a valve?

Have you checked in the basement to make sure there's not a flood happening?

I assume you're not in the wintry southern hemisphere with frozen pipes?

If none of those things happened, it's probably the faucet itself.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:24 PM
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There are (or should be) cut-off valves under the sink. Check to be sure the water hasn't been turned off there.
I did, although I was the only one home when it quit working.
This is soooo weird!!
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:26 PM
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Need more information. Both hot AND cold water?

Is this a house or an apartment? Anyone in the house who might have hit a valve?

Have you checked in the basement to make sure there's not a flood happening?

I assume you're not in the wintry southern hemisphere with frozen pipes?

If none of those things happened, it's probably the faucet itself.
Both hot and cold. (Separate handles.)
No one else to hit a valve.
I could check the crawl... would I have water in the bathroom with broken pipes?
Oh, and it's so hot here, the chances are better that the pipes melted than froze!!

Thanks for the help and ideas, everyone. It somehow feels less strange when others know about it.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:28 PM
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I'd start looking everywhere for a possible leak as well. Is the water pressure affected in the bathroom? The size leak that would leave you with no water in one room would almost certain result in lowered water pressure elsewhere.

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Old 06-23-2009, 09:33 PM
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No water in washing machine either.

Its' a small ranch. Right around 900 sq ft.

Have the kitchen then the dining room. Dining room has a closet that contains the washer and dryer, then the bathroom. (So the back wall of the closet is the shared wall with the bathroom.)

I haven't had any luck with googling, either... though I'm not terribly sure the most efficient way to phrase my question.

Oh, and pressure is fine in the bathroom. Bathroom has both hot and cold water.

What the heck??
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:44 PM
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Hard water? A pipe could have become completely blocked.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:46 PM
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Can't see a thing under the house. Will have to wait for daylight.

There is a wet area on the ground behind the house, right outside the kitchen. It doesn't appear to be coming from under the house- the brick looks dry but the ground is wet starting just a few inches away. It's hard to tell though, my flashlight isn't the best.

I guess I'll call it a night, and try to see what I can see in the morning.

If anyone else wants to throw ideas out there, I'll check them out in the morning.

Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:02 PM
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Are you in the Southern Hemisphere? I had a similar thing happen this winter when the pipes under the kitchen sink froze.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:13 PM
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In case there's a leak you haven't discovered, you might want to shut off the main valve before you go to bed.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:14 PM
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This is probably a stupid idea, but this happened last week and it was just calcium deposit in the faucet. My husband fixed it by unscrewing the very end of the faucet and dug out the calcium that had built up there.

Edit - Sorry, I didn't see the water was off in the laundry room too. Never mind!

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Old 06-23-2009, 10:15 PM
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In case there's a leak you haven't discovered, you might want to shut off the main valve before you go to bed.
Concur.
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:05 AM
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Naw, if he leaves it as is, he'll know FOR SURE in the morning, when the back side of his house is a complete mud pit. If it isn't, then you know it's not a leak.
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:53 AM
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Oh, and pressure is fine in the bathroom. Bathroom has both hot and cold water.

What the heck??
I have to echo this sentiment. I can't think of anything that would cause both hot and cold water to shut off in two separate rooms at the same time that doesn't involve either human intervention or very unlikely coincidences (simultaneous breaks or blockages in two separate pipes).

More questions: is the water off completely or are there slight drips?

Does the washer have a shutoff valve? If so, is it off or on?

Do you have a full capacity water heater or is it an on-demand type of heating system?
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:46 PM
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Scram the plant.

I had a friend who trained as a Navy nuclear power operator and he said the tests were full of hypothetical situations where the answer was almost always "Scram the plant" -- shut it down for safety. Some of the questions were deliberately confusing, which was one point of the test -- when you no longer understand what's happening with the plant, you shut it down for safety, rather than have disaster unfold while you try to figure things out. You're not in control while you don't understand, and you should shut down anything dangerous that you no longer control.

The analogy I am making is that leaking water will cost money, and flooding out walls or floors will cost a LOT of money and wreck your stuff. When you cannot figure out what's happening with the water flow, for all you know, it's pouring into the space between the walls or something. Throw the main cutoff. Shut it all down and call someone. Let them figure it out in leisure while it's safely shut down.
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:34 PM
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I'm starting to feel like I'm in the twilight zone, or something. I posted this morning on what a good idea it was to shut off the main while I slept. And while I didn't see that last night, I did do it before leaving for work. Don't think it would have occurred to me otherwise. But that post is not here!! (Am I jinxed?? )


There's a couple of other things to report. As of this morning- the water was working again in the washer.

Still no water in the sink. I'm thinking some kind of blockage in the line, right? But it's a dual line feed- a line for the hot and a separate line for the cold. And get this- the sprayer works.

Now I'm wondering if there's a diverter of some type and it's stuck closed? (That doesn't explain the washer, though.)

I'm thinking I need to change the faucet this weekend? I hate to spend the time and money if that's not the issue, but I cannot for the life of me figure this out!!

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I have to echo this sentiment. I can't think of anything that would cause both hot and cold water to shut off in two separate rooms at the same time that doesn't involve either human intervention or very unlikely coincidences (simultaneous breaks or blockages in two separate pipes).

More questions: is the water off completely or are there slight drips?

Does the washer have a shutoff valve? If so, is it off or on?

Do you have a full capacity water heater or is it an on-demand type of heating system?
The water is off completely. As I discovered this morning, the sprayer works. When the sprayer is going, I get more than a trickle, but less than full flow from the faucet.

Washer shut off was not shut off.

Full capacity water heater.

Do you guys think it's the faucet? (And we'll just ignore that the washer didn't have water...) Maybe a blockage that partially moved through the system? I can't seem to wrap my head around this one.
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:36 PM
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This is probably a stupid idea, but this happened last week and it was just calcium deposit in the faucet. My husband fixed it by unscrewing the very end of the faucet and dug out the calcium that had built up there.

Edit - Sorry, I didn't see the water was off in the laundry room too. Never mind!
Oh!! What if?? What if I take my coffee pot cleaner spring and push that up the faucet? Does anyone know if I'll hurt anything?
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:51 PM
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Oh!! What if?? What if I take my coffee pot cleaner spring and push that up the faucet? Does anyone know if I'll hurt anything?
Is there an aerator on the faucet?
If so, just unscrew it and see if water comes out.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:05 PM
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Is there an aerator on the faucet?
If so, just unscrew it and see if water comes out.
I tried that, and it didn't help. I also couldn't stand to wait for advice, so I went ahead and pushed the coffee pot cleaning spring into the faucet. Didn't seem to do any damage, but didn't help, either.

I'm going to replace the faucet this weekend. (The back of my mind keeps asking about the washing machine, and I keep telling that part of my brain to STFU.)

I seriously don't know what else to do. I have a very basic understanding of plumbing, but this doesn't add up to me.

But- what about this? Maybe some type of blockage went through the line and worked itself out, but smaller bits of it have lodged in the faucet, making the diverter stay closed?
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:12 PM
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I tried that, and it didn't help. I also couldn't stand to wait for advice, so I went ahead and pushed the coffee pot cleaning spring into the faucet. Didn't seem to do any damage, but didn't help, either.

I'm going to replace the faucet this weekend. (The back of my mind keeps asking about the washing machine, and I keep telling that part of my brain to STFU.)

I seriously don't know what else to do. I have a very basic understanding of plumbing, but this doesn't add up to me.

But- what about this? Maybe some type of blockage went through the line and worked itself out, but smaller bits of it have lodged in the faucet, making the diverter stay closed?
Do you have a pull-out sprayer? The kind with the metal hose? I've had junk get caught where the hose screws into the sprayer handle. Try unscrewing that.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:20 PM
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Do you have a pull-out sprayer? The kind with the metal hose? I've had junk get caught where the hose screws into the sprayer handle. Try unscrewing that.
I do have a pull-out sprayer. I know it's not clogged at the handle, because the sprayer is working. I'm tempted to unscrew it at the faucet, but think I should wait till this weekend when I can pick up some plumber's tape.

Otherwise, with all this weirdness going on, I'm afraid I'd end up with both a leak AND no water coming out the faucet!!

Thanks so much for your help, Beowulff, and everyone else, too. It has helped me so much reading everyone's ideas.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:25 PM
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If the sprayer works at all, water is getting to the controls for the faucet. The sprayer diverter valve is part of the mixing valve where the hot and cold water come together to come out the faucet. This suggests strongly to me that the obstruction is in that mixing/diverter valve assembly.

If you were planning on replacing the faucet anyway, go right ahead. Otherwise, just get a rebuild kit and take it all apart and clean it up and replace what needs replacing (washers, o-rings, the valve itself, etc.)
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:37 PM
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If the sprayer works at all, water is getting to the controls for the faucet. The sprayer diverter valve is part of the mixing valve where the hot and cold water come together to come out the faucet. This suggests strongly to me that the obstruction is in that mixing/diverter valve assembly.

If you were planning on replacing the faucet anyway, go right ahead. Otherwise, just get a rebuild kit and take it all apart and clean it up and replace what needs replacing (washers, o-rings, the valve itself, etc.)
I think that's the thing to do, KneadToKnow.
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:39 PM
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Here is a simple test. Turn off the shut offs at the sink. Disconnect the faucet. Turn each one on. If you get a good flow out of both, then it is the faucet. If you do not get a flow then keep looking.

Also how old is the house?
Copper, or iron pipes?
What kind of water, well, city, hard or soft.
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