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Old 07-21-2009, 12:02 AM
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Identical names of famous people

Lots of people share their name with someone famous. But how many names belong to two famous people? For example, there have been two famous Richard Burtons and two famous Engelbert Humperdincks and two famous Muhammed Alis. If you want to include fictional characters, there have been two famous Matt Dillons. How many others are there?

(I'm not counting Paris and Perez Hilton, or names followed by "Jr." or "Sr." or a numeral.)
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:36 AM
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Paul Simon was the first that came to mind for me. I don't know if any of the thirty-odd Michael Jacksons are famous enough for ya.
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Old 07-21-2009, 01:02 AM
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Edward Wood, British statesman, and Edward Wood, American filmmaker.
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Old 07-21-2009, 01:23 AM
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(Robert) Marion Berry, current Arkansas Representative, Marion Berry, former DC Mayor/crackhead. Also marionberry, a berry.
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Old 07-21-2009, 01:25 AM
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I have a four person match.

Adam "Pacman" Jones
Adam Jones outfielder for the Baltimore ballclub.
Adam JonesEnglish race car driver.
Adam Jones guitarist for Tool.

And Dave Clark of the Dave Clark 5
Dave Clark the baseball player.

SSG Schwartz (The one and only.)
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Old 07-21-2009, 01:44 AM
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Engelbert Humperdinck the singer simply stole the name from the composer Engelbert Humperdinck, in order to make himself stand out a bit a bit from the crowd of other crooners. His real name was Jerry Dorsey, IIRC. I do not think that ought to count.

I rather like the pair of the Romantic poet Samuel Taylor Coleridge and the composer Samuel Coleridge-Taylor (although I very much doubt that this was a mere coincidence either). At one time, when it was free, the online Britannica had them mixed up, so if you searched for the poet you got an article about the composer. (I sent them an email about it, but they did not seem to understand what I was talking about.)

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Old 07-21-2009, 01:49 AM
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Does Muhammed Ali count? The other one was called Muhammed Ali Jinnah. Not really the same name at all.
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Old 07-21-2009, 01:49 AM
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Mick Jones from Foreigner and Mick Jones from The Clash.
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Old 07-21-2009, 02:01 AM
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Randy Jackson from the Jackson 5 and Randy Jackson on American Idol.
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Old 07-21-2009, 02:04 AM
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Cassius Marcellus Clay and Cassius (Marcellus) Clay. James Jones and the Rev. Jim Jones. Francis Bacon and Francis Bacon. James Brown and Jim Brown.

Then there are the cases of James Stewart and Stewart Granger, Michael Douglas and Michael Keaton, Davy Jones and David Bowie, wherein the latter changed their names to avoid confusion (not the case with Clay/Ali, presumably).

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Old 07-21-2009, 02:06 AM
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Does Muhammed Ali count? The other one was called Muhammed Ali Jinnah. Not really the same name at all.
I assume he means this guy.
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Old 07-21-2009, 02:15 AM
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Winston Churchill, 1871-1947, American novelist.
Winston Churchill, 1874-1965, British prime minister.
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Old 07-21-2009, 02:29 AM
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Roger Taylor, drummer, Duran Duran
Roger Taylor, drummer, Queen
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Old 07-21-2009, 02:34 AM
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Thomas Wolfe, American author of Look Homeward, Angel
Thomas (Tom) Wolfe, American author of The Bonfire of the Vanities
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Old 07-21-2009, 03:01 AM
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It's interesting that every pair in the OP includes someone who wasn't born with that name.
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Old 07-21-2009, 03:53 AM
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I've always wanted to see an album by Dave Stewart. Featuring Dave Stewart on Guitar, Dave Stewart on Keyboards, and Dave Stewart on drums.
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:58 AM
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There's David Mitchell the comedian and David Mitchell the novelist.
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Richard Burton, actor
Richard Burton, explorer and adventurer.

Jack Johnson, boxer
Jack Johnson, auto racer.
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Old 07-21-2009, 08:47 AM
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(Robert) Marion Berry, current Arkansas Representative, Marion Berry, former DC Mayor/crackhead. Also marionberry, a berry.
He's Marion Barry.
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:24 AM
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Thomas Harris, author of the Hannibal Lechter books.
Thomas A. Harris, author of "I'm Okay, You're Okay."
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:25 AM
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Not exactly the same, but in life they were known just by the single name of Byron.


When the last Mad Max movie, Beyond Thunder-dome ended, it was dedicated to Byron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_...th_Baron_Byron

How appropriate and really poetic and Romantic, as I thought the very end of the movie was; for Lord Byron, the British poet, politician and hero of Greece was one of the leading figures of Romanticism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanticism

And Mad Max is IMO a Byronic hero.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byronic_hero

Imagine then my confusion/disappointment when I eventually learned that it was in reality deservedly dedicated to Byron Kennedy:

http://madmaxmovies.com/cast-and...edy/index.html

The producer of the first 2 Mad Max movies that tragically died before the last one was made.

Knowing history can indeed change how one sees movies.
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:31 AM
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Wiki lists all these John Smiths, but other than the Jamestown guy, none of them strike me as really all that famous. If I had to vote for #2, I would pick the poet John Berryman (nee Smith), which makes me think that the name may be a severe hindrance to wide fame.
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I think this will do better in Cafe Society, so I'll move it thither.

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Old 07-21-2009, 09:35 AM
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Michael Collins the astronaut and Michael Collins the freedom fighter and politician.
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Old 07-21-2009, 09:57 AM
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Robert T. Jones, Famous Amateur Golfer
Robert T. Jones, Famous Golf Course Architect
Robert T. Jones Jr, Famous Golf Course Architect, but I assume you don't want namesakes since we have had two sets of presidents with basically the same name.

several other Robert Jones

Lots of Larry Browns, Basketball Coach, several NFL players, MLB player, hockey player

Jim Thorpe Olympic Athlete from early 20th century, Professional Golfer from late 20th Century and early 21st Century
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:03 AM
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How about:
* Davy Jones of the Monkees
* Davy Jones the race car driver
* Davy Jones the baseball player
* David "Davey" Jones the jazz musician

And David Bowie. Oh, right - he was born David Hayward-Jones (and went by "Davy Jones" and "Davie Jones" in early performances), but then took on the last name of "Bowie" because this dude from the Monkees was popular first.

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Old 07-21-2009, 10:03 AM
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Tom Jones the singer (whose real name is Thomas Jones Woodward) and Tom Jones the musical theater lyricist.

There are others as well, including the title character of the Henry Fielding novel.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:22 AM
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John Paul Jones, US naval hero during the American Revolution
John Paul Jones, bassist from Led Zeppelin
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:26 AM
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Albert Einstein, the scientist, and Albert Einstein, the comedian who changed his last name to "Brooks".
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:32 AM
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Wiki lists all these John Smiths, but other than the Jamestown guy, none of them strike me as really all that famous. If I had to vote for #2, I would pick the poet John Berryman (nee Smith), which makes me think that the name may be a severe hindrance to wide fame.
Although John Smith, Captain of the Titanic may have had only 15 minutes of fame somehow I think he's more well known.

Dave Thomas, comedian
Dave Thomas. founder of Wendys
wasn't there another semi-famous Dave Thomas as well?

John L. Sullivan, Boxer
John L. Sullivan, labor leader

Jon Stewart, Green Lantern
Jon Stewart, host of Daily Show

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Old 07-21-2009, 10:32 AM
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John Edwards - former N.C. senator who ran for president.
John Edwards - (Supposed) psychic and host of "Crossing Over."
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:46 AM
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John L. Sullivan, labor leader
Do you mean John L. Lewis? I can't find anything about a big labor leader named John L. Sullivan. There was, though, a Naval Secretary under Truman (no relation to the Fighting Sullivans), and a John Florence Sullivan became a famous radio personality named Fred Allen.
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:55 AM
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I've always wanted to see an album by Dave Stewart. Featuring Dave Stewart on Guitar, Dave Stewart on Keyboards, and Dave Stewart on drums.
And Dave Stewart on the mound.

Another one:

John Anderson (former US Senator and independent Presidential candidate), John Anderson (former Green Bay Packer linebacker), and Jon Anderson, singer from Yes (different spelling, though Jon's birth name was John, and he changed the spelling later). Also, this page lists a metric crapload of other John Andersons.
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My favorite one of these is the Brett Butler. There's the female Brett Butler from Grace Under Fire, the baseball player, and the voice actor from Sealab 2021.

Apparently there's a fourth (wikipedia), who's a racecar driver.
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Derek Bell, late harpist for The Chieftains
Derek Bell, baseball player
Derek Bell, English race car driver
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:07 AM
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Paul Simon was the first that came to mind for me.
Back in the mid-80s, there was another Paul Simon on TV a lot. He was a real estate infomercial pioneer. His shtick was "equity sharing" or "equity participation," which I think "worked" by having tenants in rental property take a piece of equity. Don't recall the exact details, since I didn't shell $195 to purchase the kit. I'd be curious to know whatever happened to him. I did read an arcticle @1990 that indicated that every one of the real estate infomercialeers of that era had since gone bankrupt.
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Dave Thomas, comedian
Dave Thomas. founder of Wendys
wasn't there another semi-famous Dave Thomas as well?
David Thomas, lead singer of Pere Ubu
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Thomas Harris, author of the Hannibal Lechter books.
Thomas A. Harris, author of "I'm Okay, You're Okay."
Those two should write a book together.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:53 AM
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Those two should write a book together.
Which would have to be entitled, "I'm OK, You're Delicious."
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Dr. Spock and Mr. Spock?
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Dave Thomas, comedian
Dave Thomas. founder of Wendys
wasn't there another semi-famous Dave Thomas as well?

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David Thomas, lead singer of Pere Ubu
Also, Dave Thomas, Patriots tight end.
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:22 PM
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Michael Jordan, NBA
Michael Jordan, CEO of EDS
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Not sure if these count, but:

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (formerly Ferdinand Lewis "Lew" Alcindor)

and

Karim Abdul-Jabbar (formerly Sharmon Shah, now Abdul-Karim al-Jabbar after being sued by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar/Lew Alcindor).
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:50 PM
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Robert L. Johnson, founder of BET.
Robert E. Johnson, executive editor of Jet.
And for a while some years ago, there were two Mark Carriers in the NFL.
Also, a Kurt Warner and a Curt Warner at different times.

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The Wikipedia disambiguation page has 44 entries for Steven Smith. It does not even contain the fairly famous Steve Smith, a flamboyant American Olympic pole vaulter in the late 70's, or my buddy from high school, who is not famous at all, but got me to start noticing all the famous Steve Smiths. There was a very famous Steve Smith, American football player, and a pretty famous Steve Smith, NBA all star.

I think you could probably put together a pretty decent basketball team only staffed by Jason or Jayson Williams.

Also, there's Jack Johnson, musician, who is arguably more famous than the other Jack Johnsons. And also there's Robert Johnson, the blues guitarist who supposedly sold his soul to the devil to gain his mastery of the instrument.
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Old 07-21-2009, 01:16 PM
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Michael Collins the astronaut and Michael Collins the freedom fighter and politician.
And Mike Collins, comic book writer/artist. Creator of one character named Thunderbolt, & later writer/artist of another one (a version of Pete Morisi's).

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Old 07-21-2009, 01:21 PM
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Paul Simon was the first that came to mind for me. I don't know if any of the thirty-odd Michael Jacksons are famous enough for ya.
There's Michael Jackson the beer writer.
There are also two Vanessa Williams, both of whom happen to be African-American. The more famous one is the singer/actress/former Miss America now starring on Ugly Betty. The other one was on the first season of Melrose Place and has done a few other TV and movie stints.
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Jon Stewart, Green Lantern
Jon Stewart, host of Daily Show
The Green Lantern spells it "John."
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John Edwards - former N.C. senator who ran for president.
John Edwards - (Supposed) psychic and host of "Crossing Over."
The psychic's last name is "Edward."

But yes, those are amusing.

The late actor Kevin Smith, of Xena fame.
Comic shop owner, comedian, auteur, & occasional actor Kevin Smith.
(Or, the dead one & the fat one.)
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There's Michael Jackson the beer writer.
There are also two Vanessa Williams, both of whom happen to be African-American. The more famous one is the singer/actress/former Miss America now starring on Ugly Betty. The other one was on the first season of Melrose Place and has done a few other TV and movie stints.
Oh, I forgot about that! The famous one got into acting later, so the less famous one has the name under SAG. IIRC, they were once in two different TV shows on at the same time, using the same name.

The famous one is now "Vanessa L. Williams."
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Which would have to be entitled, "I'm OK, You're Delicious."
Thanks, I needed that!
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