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Old 07-24-2009, 12:41 AM
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Brit Dopers: How offensive is "Sod off!"

Just as a point of curiousity - how offensive is the term "sod off!"

What it be equivalent to "fuck off!" Not so much? worse?
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Old 07-24-2009, 12:49 AM
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And where does "feck off" lie?
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Old 07-24-2009, 12:57 AM
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Much depends on context, tone of voice and the relationship of the person speaking to the person addressed. But in principal "sod off!" is pretty strong, though not so strong as "fuck off!". "Feck off!" is a hibernicism, so the view of Brit dopers will not be particularly authoritative on that one. "Feck off!" is comparatively mild.
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Old 07-24-2009, 03:08 AM
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Sod off is very mild IME. Not in the same league as fuck off, more akin to bugger off. It's not something I really hear said much these days, but I live in Scotland at the moment where it wouldn't be a popular expression.
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Old 07-24-2009, 04:09 AM
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Sod off is, IMO, merely impolite. There are situations where being impolite is a big deal - telling Her Maj to sod off is likely to create a shit storm - but it would be your manner which is offensive rather than your language.
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Old 07-24-2009, 04:19 AM
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Sod off is very mild IME. Not in the same league as fuck off, more akin to bugger off.
Agreed.

Furthermore, the respective implications of 'sod off' and 'bugger off' are pretty much the same, sod being derived from sodomite.

It does surprise me somewhat that these injunctions are viewed as less offensive than 'fuck off'. Stated more formally, I suppose they could both be expressed as 'Please go and insert your organ into the anus of your choice', which is really 'fuck off' with a different orifice.
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Old 07-24-2009, 04:26 AM
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I feel that sod off is even milder than bugger off. I'd say it in front of my gran but probably wouyldn't say bugger off. I'd agree with the above that they're both a lot more acceptable than f*** off.
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Old 07-24-2009, 04:33 AM
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And where does "feck off" lie?
"Feck" is Hiberno-English, and isn't really used in the UK. In Ireland it's a mildly offensive alternative to "fuck".

My Irish girlfriend was concerned that, when we first met, her mother would be concerned that I wore an earring. I said I didn't care what her mother thought of it, and my girlfriend translated this to her mother as "He said you can feck off". I was mortified, but my supposed response was treated with jocularity rather than offense.

The term found some traction in the UK following the Irish-made (albeit British-funded) TV comedy Father Ted, but still isn't hugely popular.

ETA: "Sod off" - yeah, quite mild.

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Old 07-24-2009, 05:41 AM
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"Feck" is Hiberno-English, and isn't really used in the UK. In Ireland it's a mildly offensive alternative to "fuck".
It's an "alternative" to "fuck" only in the sense that it's used as an expletive. it has no sexual connotations. When it;'s not being used an an expletive, it's a verb meaning to steal, and it only applies to objects of small value. You might feck stationery from the office, but you wouldn't feck three-quarters of a million euro in an armed robbery at a bank.
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Old 07-24-2009, 06:05 AM
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Sod off is very mild IME. Not in the same league as fuck off, more akin to bugger off.
I agree. Like the terms 'berk' and 'bugger', it's become detached from it's original meaning.
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Old 07-24-2009, 06:22 AM
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"Sod off" is quite rude (though, as others have said, not nearly as rude as "fuck off") but the word 'sod' itself, though originating as a term of abuse, isn't.

If your friend wins the lottery, you might say "Oh, you lucky sod!" and, although informal, it wouldn't be considered the slightest bit rude by anyone but those with the most highly developed sense of propriety (who might rather euphemistically say "you lucky so-and-so"). Conversely, if something bad happens to someone, you might say "Poor sod!" and it would be considered quite sympathetic.

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Old 07-24-2009, 06:51 AM
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They're all a bit rude, but can often be said in a joking way that isn't intended to be rude, amongst friends, if you know what I mean.

I'd rank it from least to most offensive:
Sod off
Bugger off
Feck off
Fuck off
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:12 AM
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I've always regarded "Sod Off" as being between "Go Away" (or "Push Off") and "Bugger Off" on the Offensive Scale.

So, not polite, but unless you're directing it at the Archbishop of Canterbury or someone like that, not really all that offensive either.
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:43 AM
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It's an "alternative" to "fuck" only in the sense that it's used as an expletive. it has no sexual connotations. When it;'s not being used an an expletive, it's a verb meaning to steal, and it only applies to objects of small value. You might feck stationery from the office, but you wouldn't feck three-quarters of a million euro in an armed robbery at a bank.
Yeah but when you say "feck off" you don't mean "steal away". Well, you do literally, I guess, but it is definitely used in direct place of "fuck" a lot. You fecker.
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Old 07-24-2009, 08:15 AM
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This may be of interest:
http://asa.org.uk/NR/rdonlyres/1...s_Dec_2000.pdf

"Sodding" comes pretty far down the list (see figure 1 or appendix 2).
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Old 07-24-2009, 09:59 AM
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I agree. Like the terms 'berk' and 'bugger', it's become detached from it's original meaning.
I tend to use the word "berk" a lot so I looked it up, not realising its origin.

The page I found explains its origin and some other useful derivations

http://bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A753527

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Old 07-24-2009, 10:11 AM
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I tend to use the word "berk" a lot so I looked it up, not realising its origin.

The page I found explains its origin and some other useful derivations

http://bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A753527
It just goes to show - even in an article about swear words, with a stern warning at the top of the article, they still can't bring themsleves to spell out the word (brace yourselves) "cunt". The closest they get is the story about Gropecunte Lane. The C-word still reigns supreme as the ultimate swear word.

Mind you, I'm a bit surprised that they asterisk out "wank" and especially the, to my mind milder, "wanker".
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:04 PM
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Oh, please, they wouldn't even spell out "bollocks."

ETA: Except when they did ("Oh, but that was a different definition, then.")

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Old 07-24-2009, 01:42 PM
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"Feck" is Hiberno-English, and isn't really used in the UK. In Ireland it's a mildly offensive alternative to "fuck".

My Irish girlfriend was concerned that, when we first met, her mother would be concerned that I wore an earring. I said I didn't care what her mother thought of it, and my girlfriend translated this to her mother as "He said you can feck off". I was mortified, but my supposed response was treated with jocularity rather than offense.

The term found some traction in the UK following the Irish-made (albeit British-funded) TV comedy Father Ted, but still isn't hugely popular.
That's pretty much the only reason I know it.
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:44 PM
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It just goes to show - even in an article about swear words, with a stern warning at the top of the article, they still can't bring themsleves to spell out the word (brace yourselves) "cunt". The closest they get is the story about Gropecunte Lane. The C-word still reigns supreme as the ultimate swear word.

Mind you, I'm a bit surprised that they asterisk out "wank" and especially the, to my mind milder, "wanker".
That IS strange. I'm as prudish as you can get, but if you can't bring yourself to write out a cuss, than why are you doing an article on swearing in the first place? Go write a piece about dog shows or something.
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Old 07-24-2009, 06:11 PM
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You never hear anyone say "berk" any more. It seems to have dropped out of use since the 1970s.
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