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Old 07-02-2010, 06:50 PM
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Bra-less older women - does this look good?

Thought about putting this in Cafe Society, but it's not so much about Kim Cattrall as it is that this photo of her shows the gist of my question. Please check out the fourth photo on this page of the ladies from SATC2 (safe for work, just shows them at various premieres in evening gowns)

http://gofugyourself.celebuzz.com/cg...IncludeBlogs=1

The fourth picture down on this page shows Kim Cattrall in a lovely chartreuse dress. She looks gorgeous, but....to me, it looks like she desperately needs a bra. Didn't someone mention this to her before she went out?

She's in her 50's, and looks great, but it just seems to me that the girls could have used some support. I don't expect her boobs to be cantilevered up to her chin, but...I think she would have looked much better with a little lift. Instead, her breasts remind me of two empty wallets.

Is the braless look sexy, even though they're saggy? Does it say "I'm 50 and damn proud of it", even though it's not (in my opinion, anyway) that flattering? I'm in my 40's, and after time and two kids, my boobs are not as perky as they used to be - it would never occur to me to go out looking like this - yet here she is, putting them out there.

What do you say? Once you reach a certain age, is it sexy to show 'em off in their natural state, or is it more attractive to give them a boost?

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Old 07-02-2010, 06:56 PM
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I'm head of the line for thinking everyone needs a good support garment in any outfit regardless of age, but the linked picture doesn't seem like a particularly egregious example to me. I'll see if I can find what I consider to be a worse example.
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Old 07-02-2010, 06:58 PM
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I'm head of the line for thinking everyone needs a good support garment in any outfit regardless of age, but the linked picture doesn't seem like a particularly egregious example to me. I'll see if I can find what I consider to be a worse example.
Well, I've seen several photos of Kim Cattrall looking rather...flattened...and I used to notice it a lot on the series. This is not the best (worst?) example of this affliction, but I wanted people to get the idea of what I meant.

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Old 07-02-2010, 06:59 PM
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Oh yeah, I didn't think Susan Sarandon would let me down.

I think I know what you mean about Kim - her chestal area always seems to look weird in some way. I thought that was actually a kind of *good* picture of her.

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Old 07-02-2010, 07:02 PM
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I'm all for wearing a bra if you need it. But I thought that picture was an excellent example of someone who didn't.

In fact it looked very Jazz Age. The hair, the dress. I don't think they even had bras in the Jazz Age. So for that dress, no. There are women who couldn't wear it, but I thought she rocked the look (and downright demure, considering some of what you see on the red carpet these days).
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Yikes! This isn't a good look for anyone, of any age! I think that's safe for work - just a lot of cleavage.

ETA: Now that I think about it, if that's NSFW, so is my previously-linked picture for having yards of cleavage, too.

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Oh yeah, I didn't think Susan Sarandon would let me down.

I think I know what you mean about Kim - her chestal area always seems to look weird in some way. I thought that was actually a kind of *good* picture of her.
Maybe she didn't let YOU down, but...

Perfect example of what NOT to wear. Not that she's exactly wearing it. It really looks like that dress is trying to escape!
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:04 PM
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Meh, looks fine to me. Kristin Davis is the only pretty cast member of that show.

What?
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:07 PM
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I think Kim looks good. It's clear here that she has boobs that are more broad and flat (as opposed to a narrow base and more projection), she always has, and I don't see that she'd look better with them scooped forward and rounded in a bra...

There are a lot of different natural breast shapes at any age, and I don't mind seeing them. Most bra-less-ness I see doesn't look as egregious to me as it does to many people.

That pic of Susan Saradon is pretty bad. But her dress is actually falling off..
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:09 PM
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EXACTLY!!!!!! I forgot about Susan Sarandon...and she's got a lot more on the upper deck than Kim. That's the question - is this supposed to be sexy - that it acknowledges her age but just flaunts it anyway? I just think it makes a woman look a little pathetic; if the dress is such that I'm even SEEING how droopy your bosom is, perhaps you're a little too old for it to begin with.

Then there is the Queen of Sexy Older Women with Elegance, Helen Mirren:
http://fashionindie.com/wp-content/u...len_mirren.jpg

Helen does it right, in my opinion.
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:14 PM
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I thought Kim Cattrall looked great in that picture. But to my tastes, anyone pictured on a page with Sarah Jessica Parker looks better by comparison.
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:18 PM
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Well if they're like me, a boosting bra causes wrinkled cleavage so I couldn't wear a low cut dress like they seem drawn to. Helen Mirren is awesome. She knows how to work it.
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:20 PM
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Meh - next to SJP, Kathy Bates looks sexy.
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:22 PM
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Then there is the Queen of Sexy Older Women with Elegance, Helen Mirren<snip>
She really is, isn't she? Which is funny, since she likes to take her clothes off in movies.
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:36 PM
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Cat Whisperer, as to the two pictures you shared:

This is hot.
This isn't.
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:38 PM
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Cat Whisperer, as to the two pictures you shared:

This is hot.
This isn't.
What makes the difference? From my hetero female perspective, they both look sloppy and terrible.
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Here's another example of what I find inappropriate - Barbra Streisand braless - oy vey! Funnily enough, I think older women look just fine with wrinkles and whatever else, but everyone should be in a decent bra.
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What makes the difference? From my hetero female perspective, they both look sloppy and terrible.
The former's boobs are pushed up, not sagging. Plus she's gorgeous anyway so she can do whatever she wants with her tits.

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Here's another example of what I find inappropriate - Barbra Streisand braless - oy vey! Funnily enough, I think older women look just fine with wrinkles and whatever else, but everyone should be in a decent bra.
Not sure if hot...
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:51 PM
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62-year-old male reporting in...

Where are all of these older women the thread title seems to be referring to?
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What makes the difference? From my hetero female perspective, they both look sloppy and terrible.
Speaking for the hetero male perspective: concave vs. convex.

Actually, that might be more of the hetero engineer's perspective.
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Old 07-02-2010, 08:10 PM
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Cat Whisperer, as to the two pictures you shared:

This is hot.
This isn't.
In the first one, Kim C looks wedged into an odd dress that has weird handles or straps projecting upwards beyond the fabric. Horribly dress and she looks old in that pic to me.

In the second one, Susan S could use a bra for sure, but mostly a hitch of the dress up to where it's supposed to be. It looks like it's falling off her.

IMO, neither of these women look "hot", but they aren't really dressing for middle aged hetero female me...


The less said about Barbra's choice, the better.
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Old 07-02-2010, 08:19 PM
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Sistren,sistren, please-- sufficient unto each day is the evil thereof.

When women hit forty (or whatever), they should not stop being themselves and go buy a bunch of old-lady polyester dresses and cut their hair short and stop being sexy in their own way. Neither should they go dressing like their teenage daughters, but this message western society has that you have to go neuter at a certain point is not just silly, but also damaging.

Perhaps these women are not trying to look sexy for anyone else -- perhaps they are looking sexy for themselves.
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Old 07-02-2010, 08:33 PM
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How should this old bat start dressing?

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Old 07-02-2010, 08:46 PM
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Sistren,sistren, please-- sufficient unto each day is the evil thereof.

When women hit forty (or whatever), they should not stop being themselves and go buy a bunch of old-lady polyester dresses and cut their hair short and stop being sexy in their own way. Neither should they go dressing like their teenage daughters, but this message western society has that you have to go neuter at a certain point is not just silly, but also damaging.

Perhaps these women are not trying to look sexy for anyone else -- perhaps they are looking sexy for themselves.
I entirely agree with you! I'm just asking if it's "sexy" for an older woman (define that as you wish - I'm mid-forties and consider myself older but not old) to show her boobs unhindered by underwire, or if it's sexier to give Mother Nature a little help. I think a little behind-the-scenes magic is much more attractive, but I think I must be wrong, since so many women seem proud to let the sands of time run out of their boobs.

A much younger woman who suffers from the same SBS (sunken breast syndrome) is Drew Barrymore:
http://defamer.gawker.com/hollywood/...ore-149330.php

So this is not limited to the senior set.
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Old 07-02-2010, 08:49 PM
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How should this old bat start dressing?
The Divine Ms. T is above all this!

I notice in the pictures you posted, her boobs look like they're in the proper place...and if I had those fabulous legs, I'd never cover them up.
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I was trying to find pictures of free and easy decolletage (and the short edit window stopped me from saying so) but Miss T doesn't do a lot of loose and swingey low-cut. There's this from a few years ago, but her boobs were fairly under control.

And I actually don't think Kim looks that bad (though your "empty wallet" line made me giggle), it's that silver short dress with the aluminum snakes climbing it that's horrible.

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Old 07-02-2010, 09:11 PM
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'Sunken breast syndrome'? Really?

Some boobs are lower than others. I know 13-year-olds with boobs like Drew's. It's a normal variation of female anatomy and nothing to be ashamed of. Men seem to like these types of breasts just fine, too. Unrestrained or contained.
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:23 PM
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When women hit forty (or whatever), they should not stop being themselves and go buy a bunch of old-lady polyester dresses and cut their hair short and stop being sexy in their own way. Neither should they go dressing like their teenage daughters, but this message western society has that you have to go neuter at a certain point is not just silly, but also damaging.
Absolutely, positively agree, and I've actually been criticized and chastised here for that viewpoint. Still, count me out as an admirer of the beaver tail or sub-Saharan National Geographic look; there's a point at which they can stretch too far and droop too low.

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Old 07-02-2010, 10:55 PM
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I looked at every picture and I swear, the only one that looks even slightly bad to me is Barbara Streisand. And that's more because her top is so gauzy.

I think they look fine....and I'm a female speaking.
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:15 PM
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Cat Whisperer, as to the two pictures you shared:

This is hot.
This isn't.
I must be in the minority because that second pic of Susan is HOT!
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:31 PM
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This thread is reminding me of this old joke -

There was this couple who had been married for 50 years. They were sitting at the breakfast table that morning when the old gentleman said to his wife, "Just think, honey, we've been married for 50 years."
"Yeah", she replied, "Just think, fifty years ago we were sitting here at this breakfast table together."
"I know", the old man said, "We were probably sitting here naked as jaybirds fifty years ago."
"Well", Granny snickered, "What do you say...should we?" Whereupon the two stripped to the buff and sat down at the table.
"You know, honey," the little old lady breathlessly replied, "My breasts are as hot for you as they were fifty years ago."
"I wouldn't be surprised", replied Gramps. "One's in your coffee and the other is in your oatmeal."
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Old 07-02-2010, 11:38 PM
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I looked at every picture and I swear, the only one that looks even slightly bad to me is Barbara Streisand. And that's more because her top is so gauzy.

I think they look fine....and I'm a female speaking.
Me too, they're all sexy women, even Streisand though since she looks comfortable too. Frankly it's the pushed up squashed up tits thing that looks weird to me, like everyone's a couple of painful hours overdue for nursing the baby.
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Old 07-03-2010, 01:57 AM
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I think Kim looks good. It's clear here that she has boobs that are more broad and flat (as opposed to a narrow base and more projection), she always has, and I don't see that she'd look better with them scooped forward and rounded in a bra...

There are a lot of different natural breast shapes at any age, and I don't mind seeing them. Most bra-less-ness I see doesn't look as egregious to me as it does to many people.

That pic of Susan Saradon is pretty bad. But her dress is actually falling off..
Agreed. I'm a boob girl, and the first photo has me feelin' slightly flushed, even if she is way too old for me. And yes, trust me, I'm looking directly at her chestal region. Rawr! (That dress is incredibly flattering on her.)

As for Susan Sarandon -- it's not that her boobs are bad, it's that her dress is falling off. If her dress fit properly her boobs would look fine. Anyone wearing a dress that only pretends to cover the areola looks like crap. Even a 20 yo perky young thing.

ETA: Actually, it looks like her dress is broken... shouldn't she have another shoulder strap? If it was a wardrobe failure, it would explain why she's out in public looking so bad.

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Yikes! This isn't a good look for anyone, of any age! I think that's safe for work - just a lot of cleavage.

ETA: Now that I think about it, if that's NSFW, so is my previously-linked picture for having yards of cleavage, too.
What a hag. Yuk!
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I think it's all fine. If you are comfortable and feel beautiful, why the hell should you do any different?

I'm all for seeing images of beauty that challenge us. I'd like to see a world where we can knowledge there are ways to be gorgeous that do not rely on imitating an eighteen year old. Sure, there are some sexual signals of youth that we are always going to find compelling. But you know what? You are not going to be having sex with Kim Cattrall any time soon. So appreciate her beauty as a mature, elegant woman.
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I think it's all fine. If you are comfortable and feel beautiful, why the hell should you do any different?

I'm all for seeing images of beauty that challenge us. I'd like to see a world where we can knowledge there are ways to be gorgeous that do not rely on imitating an eighteen year old. Sure, there are some sexual signals of youth that we are always going to find compelling. But you know what? You are not going to be having sex with Kim Cattrall any time soon. So appreciate her beauty as a mature, elegant woman.
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Old 07-03-2010, 04:14 AM
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Silly Melon. You can't go around finding attractive what you find attractive. You've got to find attractive what you're told to find attractive.
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I wanted to make the same response, if (most likely) for a different reason. Why are we only allowed to have an opinion of the aesthetics of our potential sexual partners?

And how does it make sense that a heterosexual* female is advocating that belief, when that group cares more about their aesthetics than any group that wants to have sex with them?

*She's mentioned having sex with men, and has not even mentioned being attracted to women.
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Old 07-03-2010, 04:48 AM
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One again we have the "OMG a woman had the nerve not to do everything she can to make herself attractive to me personally" syndrome. As if it is some kind of offense that we might sometimes have other priorities than maximizing the degree that random observers want to bone us.

Beauty and sexual attractiveness are parallel but not always intertwined concepts. I'm sure Kim Cattrall doesn't care if you personally want to nail her or not. And I'm also pretty sure her sex life is awesome, and her lover doesn't find her one bit less fascinating or sensual because she didn't wear the undergarments that turn you on the most. But she probably does want to be seen as beautiful.

There comes a time in your life when you have to admit you are not 18/perky breasted/exceptionally skinny/perfect skinned/whatever. Even the most beautiful among us fit this perfect form for just a few brief moments.

So you are left with some options- you can give up, get the "mom" haircut, and walk around with baggy holiday-themed sweatshirts. You can pretend, with ever-declining success leading to eventual humiliation, that you still are these things. Or you can accept yourself as a sexual, beautiful woman who has aged exactly as god meant you to. I'm starting to see my first wrinkles. What do you expect me to do? Cry myself to sleep? Lock myself in a closet? Save up for botox? Wear a mask?

Naw, I'll just see them a sign of the life I've lived, the times I've smiled, my own history written on my face. It's beautiful, in it's own way. Maybe not as hot as an 18 year old model, but beautiful none the less.

While some very basic things are hard wired, much of beauty is culturally defined or at least can be stretched pretty far. Look at how societies have gone back and forth on the "fat" versus "skinny" female ideal. Or how many cultures revere white skin when we like a tan.

Societies can have a larger or smaller range of what they find beautiful. In my experience in Cameroon, people just loved women. They thought we were all beautiful. The 250 lb. volunteer got as much admiration as the 90 lb. volunteer. People hit on my mother as vigorously as they hit on me. Race, coloring...none of these things would disqualify you from being attractive. Models in magazines and in music videos all looked completely different from each other.

In China there is a much smaller range of what is considered "beautiful." 40 kg. is well known as the "perfect" weight. Lighter skin is always better than darker skin. Nobody can rock their darker skin as "exotic" the way they can elsewhere. Basically there is one "ideal girl" and everyone is judged by how close to that they look. Models in magazines and in music video usually look pretty similar.

The US is somewhere in between. We have a variety of ways to be beautiful- from "blonde sexpot" to "exotic Asian" to "voluminous goddess." Our models show some variety, but there could be more.

I think it'd be a worthwhile exercise to expand and challenge our concept of beauty. Perhaps part of that is because I'm a woman who will one day become an older woman. And I don't think that makes me any less beautiful than I am now. It personally makes me happy to see older women who don't see growing and looking older as the equivalent of getting neutered. Who don't need to hide and pretend. YMMV
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Old 07-03-2010, 05:03 AM
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Jeez, even sven, calm down with the 18-yo-perky-boob-only conspiracy. There are men (*wink wink*) who didn't even have sex with women under 25. And continue to find older women more... fulfilling.
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So you are left with some options- you can give up, get the "mom" haircut, and walk around with baggy holiday-themed sweatshirts. You can pretend, with ever-declining success leading to eventual humiliation, that you still are these things. Or you can accept yourself as a sexual, beautiful woman who has aged exactly as god meant you to.
Aging is fine and dandy. Nobody here is denying that older women can be sexy. That doesn't mean that saggy tits are sexy. It's fine if women with such breasts feel sexy, and in fact three cheers for them if they push the standards of beauty.
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Fair. I'm a little too full of piss and vinegar these days, I'm afraid.
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I think the difference between Kim and Susan is that Kim is quite small in the boob region. I know this for a fact, as I've seen her boobs about 8,000 times while watching Sex and the City. She, as they say, passes the pencil test. Susan, on the other hand, has quite big ones, based on how she displays them in dresses and things (I don't think I've ever seen her topless).

So, Kim doesn't really need a bra, IMHO, because her boobs don't really go anywhere. They're perky and high, and non-saggy.

Susan, (and Drew, for that matter) have a lot more boobage going on. Modern clothing isn't really designed to deal with free-flowing boobs - boobs of that type tend to make things pull and sag and look not particularly nice, unless they are well supported. They also tend to make the gal look sort of short waisted (see the Drew pic - does girl HAVE a waist?) which doesn't work that well for modern fashions either.

So, from a fashion perspective, I think Kim looks great. Her boobs look great, her dress looks great (the first one - the second is...unfortuante). Susan and Drew would benefit from some tape at the very least.

From a sexy perspective - well, I guess what you like is entirely up to you. Apparently in parts of Africa (among small tribes, if I recall) the 'tube sock' style of boob is considered pretty hot - honestly, I don't recall where I read this but I did and I suppose if all the gals in your area have tube sock boobs you better start liking them or you're not going to have much luck with the ladies.
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I actually think Kim looks fabulous in that first picture. Her boobs aren't low-slung or sagging, they're just not propped up so she could rest her chin on them. I'm not seeing the 'empty wallet' thing at all there, although I have seen her look that way occasionally. Poor Susan appears to be having a wardrobe malfunction (and is it just me or does she look a bit... tipsy?). As for Drew, she doesn't need a bra as much as she needs to stand up straight.

Honestly, I think the lesson of this thread should be 'all boobs are good, but some dresses suck'.
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One again we have the "OMG a woman had the nerve not to do everything she can to make herself attractive to me personally" syndrome. As if it is some kind of offense that we might sometimes have other priorities than maximizing the degree that random observers want to bone us...

...There comes a time in your life when you have to admit you are not 18/perky breasted/exceptionally skinny/perfect skinned/whatever. Even the most beautiful among us fit this perfect form for just a few brief moments.

So you are left with some options- you can give up, get the "mom" haircut, and walk around with baggy holiday-themed sweatshirts. You can pretend, with ever-declining success leading to eventual humiliation, that you still are these things. Or you can accept yourself as a sexual, beautiful woman who has aged exactly as god meant you to. I'm starting to see my first wrinkles. What do you expect me to do? Cry myself to sleep? Lock myself in a closet? Save up for botox? Wear a mask?
I actually asked the question because Kim Cattrall and I have the same kind of breasts - but I'm not comfortable putting mine out there like she does. I think I look pretty good for my age, although I don't dress like a kid anymore. I'm very conscious (or self-conscious) of how they look sans bra, and yet I'm wondering if perhaps I am worrying for nothing - that they really look fine and I should just stop being concerned about it. Then again, I feel that I look better, and therefore have more confidence, when the girls have some support (and I'm not a fan of the "obvious nipple" look, I prefer to keep them to myself).

I don't wear "mom" jeans or holiday themed sweaters, but I'm also not wearing Daisy Dukes and letting my thong show above my low-slung jeans. I try to dress elegantly and appropriately, but still show that I'm a confident, sexy woman (there's a difference between "sexy" and "sleazy").

But I did ask the question in a flippant, mocking way, because it is not really a serious topic - perhaps that's why it sounds like I'm being critical of older women. I'm really just being critical of myself, and wondering if they have the right idea, not me.

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There are a few women who can do braless well, even young women. Most of us need a little help for my own aesthetic taste. A little tape or a self adhesive bra cup would help a lot.

I think Helen Mirren does it very well, too. She doesn't try to look 24 or 34. And when you are 50 or 60 and you look like you are trying to look 24, you just look sad. That's not aging gracefully - accepting your wrinkles and your age and working with it - that's denial.
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Old 07-03-2010, 10:51 AM
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I think Kim Cattrall looks great.
I am built much as she is, do occasionally go bra-less, and if I had the occasion and the dress I might go for it--but I am not sure I could get away with it with my 55 yr old aging blotchy skin.

Helen Mirren looks superb.

The other photos of Streisand, Sarandon etc, not so much. The dresses simply do not fit correctly.

I had a fancy cocktail party to go to awhile back and I dressed rather conservatively.
I am slender, but not exactly taut and coltish. Whether I am dressing for myself or the general public, I'm just not sure my bony old knees or weathered chest needs to be on display.
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Old 07-03-2010, 11:05 AM
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What a booby culture we are. I think people forget that their primary function is to feed babies.

In my developing years it was all about Bridget and Marilyn. Then the feminists came along and burned their bras as a statement of liberation from having to appeal to males. Things almost got normal for people with developed mammary glands for a while. Then the pop divas started it all up again and I can't buy groceries without having to stare down some PYT's neckline. Hee. Distracting as heck. And checkout women are not pop divas. Please.

After Dad died Mom finally stopped wearing her bra in the care center where they lived. I was a little shocked at first as it seemed out of character. But she said she was more comfortable and if she didn't mind I didn't mind.

I suppose you could say she had the body she had earned after eighty-some years of service to others. It was an honest body.

Even though her silhouette had slipped it didn't seem to stop the old goats from pursuing her to the point of annoyance. She was dying of cancer and having to fend off guys who were trying to relieve the glory of their youth. Does it ever end?
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Old 07-03-2010, 11:29 AM
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Yes, but the question is not "is Kim Catrall more comfortable" - the question is "does she look good?" And yes, we are a booby culture. We are also a hair culture, a fashion culture, a youth culture, a thin culture - all these feed into our ideas about what is aesthetically pleasing. There are certainly people who would find a women who looks every day of seventy, with thinning hair, overweight, with braless 'empty wallets" for breasts, dressed in a mu-mu attractive...and she can be perfectly comfortable in her own skin with great self esteem - but most people are going to think a younger woman, with a full head of hair, normal body weight, perky breasts is more attractive - especially if she skips the mu-mu.
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Old 07-03-2010, 12:23 PM
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I actually asked the question because Kim Cattrall and I have the same kind of breasts - but I'm not comfortable putting mine out there like she does. .
Well, here's my test and it seems to work pretty well:

1. Are you comfortable with no bra? If not, there's not point 'cus you won't look hot/smokin'/sexy - you'll look self conscious and uncomfortable which is not hot.

2. Do you pass the pencil test. That is (for anyone who doesn't know) if you stand up straight with no top on (or bra) and hold a pencil under your boob, when you let go of the pencil does it drop to the ground? Does you're boob NOT sag enough to hold the pencil in place?

If the answer to those two questions is 'Yes' then I think you're primed to go braless and look smokin', regardless of your age.
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