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Old 09-04-2010, 12:33 AM
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"And in a dirty glass!" --- origin of trope?

I grew up watching Westerns, and a lot of parodies of Westerns. Once in a while, there'd be a scene where some grizzled old cowpoke sidles up to the bar and orders a shot of whiskey, 'in a dirty glass'.

Anyone know where this trope came from?
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Old 09-04-2010, 12:52 AM
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Earliest I saw it was a Hope Crosby movie where Bob orders a lemonade in a tough guy bar, Bing elbows him and he adds "in a dirty glass" so he doesn't look like a sissy ordering lemonade.
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Old 09-04-2010, 01:35 AM
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It was already enough of a cliche by 1961 to put in an episode of The Flintstones.

"Bartender... rocks over rocks. And bartender... put that in a dirty glass."
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Old 09-04-2010, 03:23 AM
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Old 09-04-2010, 12:13 PM
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I'm pretty sure it was already a well-established trope when Bob Hope did it. That's how we immediately GET that he's countering the sissy image of ordering the lemonade* when he adds "...but in a dirty glass".


* and wasn't it a sarsaparilla, not a lemonade?
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Old 09-04-2010, 12:29 PM
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In the Kung-Fu TV series, the bartender would usually ask "Dirty[ or cloudy] or clear" when Cain ordered water.

I always wondered why, given the choice, anyone would want dirty water - did the cleaning process they used leave a taste or was it just more expensive?
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Old 09-04-2010, 02:47 PM
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I'm pretty sure it was already a well-established trope when Bob Hope did it. That's how we immediately GET that he's countering the sissy image of ordering the lemonade* when he adds "...but in a dirty glass".
I don't know, it seems pretty "gettable" even without prior art. Dirt is tough.

For that matter, I'm not sure I ever have seen it with something like whiskey: It's always lemonade, or milk, or some other such "unmanly" drink.
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