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Old 08-28-2011, 10:32 PM
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Why all the "adult" shops at the WI border?

I've noticed that all the major highways I've driven up to WI have, right across the border, cheese shops, firework shops, and porn shops. The reasons for the first two are obvious (local specialty and illegal in IL, respectively).

But why the sketchy XXX shops? It's not like that content isn't available easily in Illinois. Is there something about WI that makes it better for selling smut, or do they just assume, "hey, tourists will probably want to porn to go with those Black Cats and aged cheddar?"
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Old 08-29-2011, 01:48 PM
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Used to be a lot of bars and liquor stores along the border, before IL and WI matched drinking ages. I wonder if the liquor stores became porn stores because, um, hrm.

There must be some code or statute or tax break difference, or something, right?
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:23 PM
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Used to be a lot of bars and liquor stores along the border, before IL and WI matched drinking ages. I wonder if the liquor stores became porn stores because, um, hrm.

There must be some code or statute or tax break difference, or something, right?
But what sort of volume would you need to be buying such that it makes enough difference?

My only real guesses are a) there used to be restrictions in IL that are no longer in place but helped the WI shops get established and they do enough business to stay, or b) they're just trying to appeal to truckers or out-of-towners and chose to build on existing visible "offramp" sites.
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Old 08-29-2011, 04:20 PM
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It might also be a county-by-county thing, not a state-by-state thing. Whatever Illinois county that is might also have such shops set up across the other county lines, too, but those aren't as noticeable.
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Old 08-29-2011, 08:01 PM
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Driving from OKC to Chicago at least once a year, and these shops are all along I-44 in Missouri as well. But, from St. Louis to Chicago, nothing.
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Old 08-29-2011, 08:09 PM
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It's very simple. Wisconsin has sex; Illinois doesn't. C'est La Vie.
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Old 08-29-2011, 08:20 PM
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I never knew those were unique to Wisconsin. Well, then two things about them. First off all, they're open 24 hours and are really designed to cater to truckers and other people 'on the road'. There's also some motels nearby that probably do a lot of business with sales people from out of the area that are visiting Milwaukee/Madison/Chicago/Green Bay. (Though as a friend of mine said, "I'd hate to see who shops there at, say, 4am") and second, there are two colleges nearby (UW-Parkside and Carthage) and at least one of those porn shops (Superb Video) is also a head shop. If you wanted to get a new bong at 1:30 in the morning, that's where you went. Hell, if you wanted to get a new bong at 1:30 in the afternoon, that's where you went. It's the only place that I know of in the area that had paraphernalia. And a huge selection at that. That shop is at least half bongs and other paraphernalia. We used to go there when we were bored just to look at all the glass.

As for why it's right there, it's probably because of the motels. That area really isn't very populated with residents, so, like I said, I'd imagine most of their business is people just pulling off the road looking for a place to crash for the night and a lot of them might be 'lonely' after being away from home for a few days.

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Old 08-29-2011, 10:01 PM
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(Though as a friend of mine said, "I'd hate to see who shops there at, say, 4am")
I drive up I-94 / I-43 from suburban Chicago to Green Bay every Christmas morning, to visit my family. I've always been amazed that those adult bookstores are not only open at 8 a.m. on Christmas morning, and wondered about who's shopping there at that time (because there's always cars in the parking lot at that time).
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Old 08-29-2011, 10:33 PM
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I've always been amazed that those adult bookstores are not only open at 8 a.m. on Christmas morning, and wondered about who's shopping there at that time (because there's always cars in the parking lot at that time).
Presumably people who didn't find what they wanted under the tree.
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Old 08-29-2011, 10:36 PM
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Presumably people who didn't find what they wanted under the tree.
Yeah, we always joke about that...or that they're looking for last-minute stocking-stuffers.
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Old 08-29-2011, 10:39 PM
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Presumably people who didn't find what they wanted under the tree.
Nicely done!!!

Several other ways to go with the Christmas Porno theme, including "Stocking Stuffers", "Yule Logs" or just grabbing some lubricant to ensure "Santa" doesn't get "stuck in the chimney."

ETA---kenobi 65 was faster on the draw....

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Presumably people who didn't find what they wanted under the tree.
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:12 AM
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Old 08-31-2011, 07:04 PM
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I always wondered about that Lion's Den billboard when I passed thru to go to the Oshkosh Airshow. I didn't get it 12 years ago when we first started going, and assumed that it had something to do with the Lion King.
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Old 09-01-2011, 09:53 AM
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It's not so much that you couldn't buy p0rn in downtown Chicago, but along the North Shore and Lake County.

Conversely, my favorite was the place just south of the line that advertised in big neon letters the easy availability of O L E O M A R G A R I N E. Though, now that I think of it, that may have also been related to the nearby motels.

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Old 09-06-2011, 11:45 PM
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Conversely, my favorite was the place just south of the line that advertised in big neon letters the easy availability of O L E O M A R G A R I N E. Though, now that I think of it, that may have also been related to the nearby motels.
Wow, my grandmother (or possibly mother) mentioned that sign once to me, I believe in reference to the drive up to Door County. I thought it was incredibly esoteric to remember; apparently, she's not the only one.
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Old 09-06-2011, 11:52 PM
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Wow, my grandmother (or possibly mother) mentioned that sign once to me, I believe in reference to the drive up to Door County. I thought it was incredibly esoteric to remember; apparently, she's not the only one.
My Ex-FIL talks about going across the Illinois border when he was a kid to with his parents to buy Margarine. I believe when it first came out it may not have been legal to sell it in Wisconsin, being the dairy state and all. I do know that even if you could buy it in Wisconsin, it couldn't be sold yellow, it came with a little dye packet that you would mix in on your own so consumers wouldn't mistake it as butter.
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There are also a number of fireworks stores along that route over the WI border (although some tend to be seasonal, appearing in June/July.) That's because IL fireworks laws are tougher, right? I've always assumed that there are more lenient porn laws in Wisconsin as well. I mean, I haven't seen any porn shops as such in Illinois... ?
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Old 09-07-2011, 01:17 PM
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There are also a number of fireworks stores along that route over the WI border (although some tend to be seasonal, appearing in June/July.) That's because IL fireworks laws are tougher, right? I've always assumed that there are more lenient porn laws in Wisconsin as well. I mean, I haven't seen any porn shops as such in Illinois... ?
Fireworks pretty much can't be sold in IL. We're limited to sparklers and smoke bombs here.

Porn shops definitely exist in IL; there's several in the city and at least a handful I've seen in the suburbs.
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Old 09-07-2011, 05:32 PM
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Porn shops definitely exist in IL; there's several in the city and at least a handful I've seen in the suburbs.
I guess I'm not looking in the right places...
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Oddly, down here at the St. Louis end of IL, it's sorta the opposite. All the strip clubs are on the IL side of the river. MO does have fireworks & porn shops, but almost nothing in the way of strip clubs.
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Old 09-09-2011, 03:12 PM
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One factor, I believe, is that I-94 goes from toll to free at the border. Porn shops tend to cluster at highway exits, but they can't do that in the Chicago area where the roads are toll. It's a pain in the ass to get on and off of a toll road, except at the overhead oases, and nobody (I hope) does so just to buy porn.

So by the time you get to the Wisconsin border, there's a backlog of built-up demand for easy-on, easy-off wanking, and there are shops to supply it. There are an unusually large number of skeevy souvenir shops and Big Boy "family style" restaurants in the same area, and for I believe the same reason--these are businesses that like to locate off of interstate highways, but aren't viable along a toll road.

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So by the time you get to the Wisconsin border, there's a backlog of built-up demand for easy-on, easy-off wanking, and there are shops to supply it.
Geesh, you make it sound like there's a line backed up onto the freeway to get into these places...Reminds me of the episode of South Park when the internet was down.
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Old 09-21-2011, 10:05 AM
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I've noticed this near the VA/WV state line in Appalachia. The WV side seems to have more "XXX" venues (and boy do they advertise), but it can't just be state law, because VA has gentlemen's clubs and porn shops too (at least in Fairfax County, a bit away from the WV state line, so it may be that they are illegal in the more rural VA counties).

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Old 09-21-2011, 10:06 AM
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Geesh, you make it sound like there's a line backed up onto the freeway to get into these places...Reminds me of the episode of South Park when the internet was down.
I heard they have some Internet down Californy-way.
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Old 09-21-2011, 04:32 PM
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It's also possible that it's because companies that have locations in one state don't want to deal with two regulatory structures and keep apprised of two separate systems of state law. With "adult" industries, there could be devastating consequences of noncompliance.

E.g.

"Good evening, welcome to Mandatory Court-Ordered Sex Offender Therapy, where we work to help you control your deviant urges. Could everyone please introduce themself please."

"My name is Bill and I'm trying hard every day not to touch my daughter inappropriately."
"My name is James and I'm just starting out trying to figure out what makes me rape women in the park."
"My name is Joe and I was the night manager for Excite-U Gentleman's XXX Club of Northern Illinois. We got into a little regulatory kerfluffle because our procedures handbook was written based on Wisconsin law and we didn't realize that our performers' Affidavits of Adultivity needed to be filed at the local courthouse rather than just kept available on location for inspection. I was convicted and sentenced to 10 years, lifetime registration as a sex offender, and mandatory sex offender therapy as condition for parole. I don't see how this program is really going to help me. I just need to be more skeptical of my supervisor when he tells me ' Don't worry about personally researching the law, just follow the employee handbook.'"

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I guess I'm not looking in the right places...
There's one on Lawrence near the Admiral Theater.
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I always wondered about that Lion's Den billboard when I passed thru to go to the Oshkosh Airshow. I didn't get it 12 years ago when we first started going, and assumed that it had something to do with the Lion King.
I believe there's a Lion's Den in Indiana as well along I-80. It's a bit further in though, closer to or past I-65 as opposed to right on the border. When we drive to Michigan from Chicago, I always notice that most of the I-80 billboards in Indiana seem to advertise either adult entertainment/products or fireworks.

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Seriously? I didn't think porn stores were able to advertise like that in Indiana. We're a buncha puritans here, ya know.
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I guess I'm not looking in the right places...
There's one on Lawrence near the Admiral Theater.
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Geesh, you make it sound like there's a line backed up onto the freeway to get into these places...Reminds me of the episode of South Park when the internet was down.
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I used to live near the state line in that area. I think the toll/free distinction has a lot to do with it, although with a twist. I-94 doesn't become toll at the state line, rather it becomes toll about a mile in, after (I think) two exits. The last of these exists is US-41, which serves as a bypass of the Tri-State. If you took the 41 exit as the tollway begins, there were several adult stores about a mile more to the south. Although, we drove by our old place this summer and it seemed that the stores had pretty much vanished. This is a relatively recent development (last 10 years or so).

There's been a lot of change on the Wisconsin side of the border as well, and it struck me that there were fewer adult stores and other small stores (fireworks, cheese shops) as well. For example, there are a lot more box stores on both sides of the border.
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Old 09-25-2011, 06:44 PM
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There's been a lot of change on the Wisconsin side of the border as well, and it struck me that there were fewer adult stores and other small stores (fireworks, cheese shops) as well. For example, there are a lot more box stores on both sides of the border.
I've certainly noticed the drive up to my parents' place in the northwoods passes quite a few more Best Buys than it used to.

On the plus side, my father's crippling Starbucks addiction is much better served now when he makes the drive.

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I've certainly noticed the drive up to my parents' place in the northwoods passes quite a few more Best Buys than it used to.
The area immediately north of Milwaukee on I-43 is really, really different from even 6-8 years ago. Whole Foods, Panda Express, Best Buy, etc.
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