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Old 08-29-2011, 07:07 PM
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Haven't Been Called for Jury Duty..

...in over 20 years in California.

I'm a registered voter and have a driver's license. I was called when I was 21 and was excused for cause, it was a civil slip-and-fall case and my Aunt was a plaintiff in a slip-and-fall case.

Since then, nothing. Lately I've been feeling guilty as other co-workers seem to get summon's every couple of years.

On one hand I want to know if I've been permanently barred for some reason and on the other hand I don't want them to look me up and say, "Oh, yes, we'll put you back on the list then, the top of the list."

Anyone else NOT getting called for jury duty even though they're registered to vote and have a driver's license in California? Anywhere?

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Old 08-29-2011, 07:12 PM
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I've been a registered voter since the early 1980s in California, Colorado and Michigan.

I'm good about keeping up with changes of address and voting precincts and ALWAYS vote...but have never been called for jury duty.
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:22 PM
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I've been a registered voter and driver in the same state for greater than 30 years and I just got my first summons to jury duty today, and I expect that's only because I now live in a county with very few residents. I used to live in the most populous county in the state, so I just randomly didn't get called. I've always had a bit of a complex about it, so now I feel better.

So, how can I get out of it?

No, I'm just kidding. I don't do anything during normal human hours anyway, so I might as well do nothing at the courthouse and gain some civics points while I'm at it. I wonder if they might just skip over me when they see that 60-mile round trip commute, though.
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:55 PM
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Got jury duty after 28 years of never being called (in Minnesota). It was for a case involving a double shotgun murder of a father and his ten-year old son from a middle-of-the night break-in. I was the last person seated and ended up being an alternate. It was VERY interesting.
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Old 08-29-2011, 08:09 PM
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I'm a licensed driver, registered voter, property tax payer, all in good standing. I've never been called for jury duty. I've always wanted to be on a jury.

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Old 08-29-2011, 08:09 PM
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I've been a registered voter in CA for 18 years. I've gotten one summons. I had to defer it once, and then finally appeared. I was empaneled, and I was really enthusiastic about the possibility of being on a jury (and said as much) because I work in law and thought it would be neat to observe from the other side.

Then they got to the point in the questioning where they needed to know if anyone had ever had a negative experience with a police officer, since the only two witnesses in the case were going to be the arresting officers. Guess who had to raise his hand?

That was about...oh, six years ago, maybe? I haven't seen a summons since.
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Old 08-29-2011, 08:22 PM
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I've been registered to vote since 1972, have had a drivers license since 1969, and have never been called either. It's a good thing; I'd have a hard time sitting around paying attention in court.

Of course, now that I've bragged about it, I'll get a summons.
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Old 08-29-2011, 08:47 PM
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I've been registered to vote since 1982 and have had a driver's license since 1981.

Starting in the mid-90s, I seemed to get called up every couple of years or so. It's almost time again. I find it interesting for the most part.

I've only deferred once, and I just put it off for six months because of work conflicts.
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Old 08-29-2011, 08:52 PM
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...in over 20 years in California.

I'm a registered voter and have a driver's license.
Have you moved around within the state? Most jury offices are managed at the county level so if you've switched counties, you may have fallen out of sight.
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Old 08-29-2011, 09:08 PM
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I was a licensed driver/registered voter in Texas for 22 years. Never called for jury duty.

I moved from there 8 years ago.

Yesterday, my former roommate called to tell me she had received a jury summons for me.

She wrote "No longer at this address, no longer a resident of Texas" on the envelope and mailed it back.

I called today and got myself taken off the list.

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Old 08-29-2011, 09:39 PM
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Have you moved around within the state? Most jury offices are managed at the county level so if you've switched counties, you may have fallen out of sight.
I have moved around, however all within the same county. I updated my voter registration and DMV address each time.

I've even dropped off my absentee ballot at the court house a couple of times.
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Old 08-29-2011, 10:35 PM
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Consider yourself lucky. Jury duty is a pet peeve of mine.

I get called every year in NJ. I'll gladly serve when they a) demand that my employer PAY me for the lost pay day and b) provide child care. I just know one year they're going to screw me over financially and make my life a living hell for a few weeks. One of my neighbors was lucky. She had to serve for two weeks but her job was nice and paid her anyway and her mom was able to watch her young daughter.

My husband has served twice with fully pay from his employer in the eight years we've been here. His service should suffice for our entire household.
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Old 08-29-2011, 10:55 PM
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And yet if somebody steals your shit, you'll expect that the state puts him on trial instead of just giving him a stern warning, right?

OP, do you commute across county or municipal lines? If so, perhaps you're in a location that doesn't have a lot of need for jurors, but your co-workers live in a more judicially active location. In a metropolitan area, of course, lines between municipal entities fade away for almost all practical purposes, but they're still important in the courts.

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Old 08-29-2011, 11:28 PM
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I expect the state not to ask me to sacrifice $150 a day and spend $300 a week on daycare. I don't think that's unreasonable. Do you think I should suffer a six hundred dollar a week loss in income AND be forced to pay $300 a week out of pocket? Because every single year I've had that same stupid conversation with state officials as they try to explain to me why punishing me and my family with huge fiscal losses is somehow a delightful exercise in civic democracy. If the state wants my time the state should either demand my employer pay for it or directly reimburse me for it.

FYI, I grew up in NYC. I'm a very short female who I suppose looks like an easy mark. I've been a crime victim over half a dozen times. State officials spent maybe an hour or two total investigating what happened to me. The police have never seemed particularly interested in listening to me when I told them that some asshole grabbed my purse as I was walking down the street or held a gun in my ear at the Prospect Park subway station and demanded my Chinese food dinner or picked the lock and ran off with my bike. Not once was a single person punished for those actions.
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:35 AM
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I expect the state not to ask me to sacrifice $150 a day and spend $300 a week on daycare. I don't think that's unreasonable. Do you think I should suffer a six hundred dollar a week loss in income AND be forced to pay $300 a week out of pocket? Because every single year I've had that same stupid conversation with state officials as they try to explain to me why punishing me and my family with huge fiscal losses is somehow a delightful exercise in civic democracy. If the state wants my time the state should either demand my employer pay for it or directly reimburse me for it.
Yeah, that's a hefty sacrifice; I can understand your hesitation. Our state reimburses for childcare (in a licensed facility) and that only seems fair. I'd be in sad shape if I had to give up working hours to serve.
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Old 08-30-2011, 04:09 AM
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I've been called, I think, seventeen times. Three of those are federal. It's annoying, but I can do it in the summer.
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Old 08-30-2011, 11:55 AM
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Been a registered voter and licensed driver in SC for 17 years and only summoned once. The case was postponed, and have never been called since. I would love to serve.
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:12 PM
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You people who want to be called are masochists.

I've been called 3 times and I'm only 24. Once I was in California (permanent address parents' home in college) second time I was 2 hours away (again, in college) so I was easily excused each time.

The third time I actually mailed in the paperwork and then MISSED IT, thinking it was on the 17th and it was actually the 7th. I figured they'd throw my ass in jail but I called and emailed and their response was "oh, whatever".
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:21 PM
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We've been in California for three years, and my wife has already been called twice, once for regular jury duty, and once for federal jury duty.

For the federal court, she had to be available for the whole month of July, and check in by phone or internet almost every evening to see if she needed to report the next day. In the end, though, she was only called in on one day, was weeded out in jury selection (voir dire), and was sent home at lunchtime.

I'm not a US citizen, so i don't qualify for jury duty.
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:26 PM
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Took 22 years for me to even get a juror questionnaire.
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Old 08-30-2011, 02:02 PM
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Got called up shortly after turning 18. I couldn't participate because I was not yet a US citizen. I have not been called in the 14 years since.
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Old 08-30-2011, 02:05 PM
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Is anyone in the thread a naturalized citizen? I'm pretty sure my parents and uncles have never been called and they're all naturalized. I'm wondering if it's a glitch or just confirmation bias.
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Old 08-30-2011, 02:43 PM
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I expect the state not to ask me to sacrifice...
The state has already provided you with roads to drive on, subways to ride on, daycare regulations to ensure that your kid is in good hands when you do need to leave him, etc. People are always bitching about what a burden civil obligations are, when, in fact, they are almost completely transparent, and a huge bargain compared with the benefits they pay for. Sacrifice/shmacrifice. It's the bill coming due.

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Old 08-30-2011, 03:04 PM
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I was called about 5 years ago. Never made it to the courthouse. I phoned in a couple of days and was done.


Very disappointing.
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:18 PM
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I've been called, I think, seventeen times. Three of those are federal. It's annoying, but I can do it in the summer.
It's certainly easier if you have a job with flexible hours, or where you can determine your own schedule.

My wife got her first federal court jury call for March of this year, which would have been smack in the middle of the Spring semester, and might have seriously disrupted her classes. She asked for a deferment to the summer, when she is not teaching and is mainly working on her own material (research, writing, etc.), and can be available for jury duty without any scheduling or financial hardship.
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:26 PM
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Wish I had your problem. I just got my third summons in about ten years.
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Old 08-30-2011, 03:29 PM
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Is anyone in the thread a naturalized citizen? I'm pretty sure my parents and uncles have never been called and they're all naturalized. I'm wondering if it's a glitch or just confirmation bias.
My wife is a naturalized citizen and got called up about a year ago. She didn't actually have to appear--- fortune smiled on her when she called the "do I need to show up" number the night before, as instructed on the summons. Fortune has twice failed to smile upon me in the same way, and strike three is coming up shortly.
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Old 08-30-2011, 04:04 PM
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I lived in NJ for 15 years and never got called. After about 7 years in California I finally got a summons. The judge for the case where I was actually on said that once you serve your chances go up, since they know you will show. The people in the jury room also said to make sure that the name on your license matches that on the voting records exactly, otherwise you show up on their rolls twice. So, if you want to increase your chances ...
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Old 08-30-2011, 04:14 PM
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So, how can I get out of it?
The trick is to say you're prejudiced against all races.
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:53 PM
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Haven't been called once in 30 years of being eligible. I don't know why. I'd actually be interested in doing it, as long as I don't have some OJ clusterfuck. [tinfoil hat] I wonder if it's because I'm a white man? Does the defense tend to throw them out, or something? Do they even know? [/tinfoil hat]
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:35 PM
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I'm a licensed driver (in PA) and a consistent voter, but I've never been called. That being said, I wonder if they would even want to use me--my uncle is a retired cop, my brother works for the county prison and my son-in-law does security stuff for the armed service.

Watch...now I'll get a summons in the mail...
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Old 08-30-2011, 11:59 PM
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I live in CA, am registered to vote, got called once when I still had a breastfeeding baby (9 years ago), delayed and nothing since.

Eta I have a drivers license too.

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Old 08-31-2011, 12:45 AM
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Since buying a home here (Cali) I've been summoned every eighteen months or so, selected from the pool every time and excused (voir dire) every time. And never knew why, except once (negative experience with LEO). And for those of you pining to serve, BEWARE WHAT YOU WISH FOR.
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Old 08-31-2011, 09:30 AM
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My dad, at age 64, has never once been called for jury duty. My mom, at age 60, was called once when my brother and I were toddlers but got out of it due to being the primary caregiver of two young children.

I got called once when I was about 20 and got out of it due to work responsibilities. Two weeks later...my brother got called up (we were registered at the same address).

Anyone else find anything suspiciously odd about that?
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Old 08-31-2011, 02:13 PM
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The state has already provided you with roads to drive on, subways to ride on, daycare regulations to ensure that your kid is in good hands when you do need to leave him, etc. People are always bitching about what a burden civil obligations are, when, in fact, they are almost completely transparent, and a huge bargain compared with the benefits they pay for. Sacrifice/shmacrifice. It's the bill coming due.

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Yeah, I have to agree with this sentiment. I know that some folks have it harder than others. But compared to the ubiquitous benefits provided by our system, the burden of jury duty is light.
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Old 08-31-2011, 03:15 PM
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I have never been called for jury duty. Approaching 55 years old. Registered voter since 18 years old, valid driver's license since 16. Homeowner, I have lived in the same county all this time, I even purchased my parents former home and although I moved around a bit in the local area I now live in the same place I grew up in.

Never been arrested or even finger-printed. No known reason to be excluded, yet I have never been called.
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Old 08-31-2011, 03:19 PM
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I was never called for jury duty in 25 years...the second I moved to California, BOOM! Called in. And everyone I work with gets called ALL THE TIME. I don't know if it's just the area, or what; not sure there's even a sitting judge, as it always seems to be a travelling judge presiding over things, which makes it weird...trials get drawn out for months due to only being able to hold court a couple days a week.
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Old 08-31-2011, 04:07 PM
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Is anyone in the thread a naturalized citizen? I'm pretty sure my parents and uncles have never been called and they're all naturalized. I'm wondering if it's a glitch or just confirmation bias.
Both my parents are naturalized and they've been called up numerous times. I've been summoned twice in 18 years (since turning 18), and the first time I got kicked off during voir dire (for who knows why--I wasn't angling to get out of it), and the second time (just a few weeks ago), I just had to call in the night before to see if I had to show up, and my last name wasn't in the part of the alphabet that had to serve. So I'm 0 for 2.
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Old 08-31-2011, 04:11 PM
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OP, do you commute across county or municipal lines?
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I live and work in the same county, as do all my coworkers.

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Old 08-31-2011, 04:50 PM
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I'm a life-long PA resident and have been a registered voter for the last 25 years and in all that time I only got one questionaire for jury duty. At the time (8 years ago) I was trying to launch a start-up and listed my occupation as small business owner. I never heard back.

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