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Old 09-02-2011, 09:41 AM
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Mayonnaise made with canola oil: simply awful

After trying several different brands of mayo made from canola oil, I have come to the conclusion that canola is simply the wrong type of oil to use if you want your mayo to have a flavor anywhere near that of what we usually think of as standard mayonnaise.

Mayo made with canola tastes so unlike traditional mayo that I think it should be illegal to call it mayonnaise. For the same reason they don't call miracle whip mayonnaise. It may look like mayo and come in the similarly-shaped jar, but it tastes nothing like mayonnaise. Call it "Whipped Imitation Sandwich Filler suitable for people without taste buds or sensory nerve endings" or something. But don't call it mayonnaise.

I once made a sammich using this gelatinous white reagent, and spit out the first bite. I thought the meat had gone bad. Then I tasted a bit of the meat by itself. Nope, that was fine. It was the mayo that was rank. I thought it was a bad jar. I took it back claiming it was rancid and got a new jar (same store, different brand). That one was equally awful. Then I noticed that all of their mayo brands used canola oil. This was in a Whole Foods Market. Is there something especially unwholesome or unorganic about soybean oil?

I don't get it. Why use canola oil if it results in a flavor that is so far away from mayonnaise that it shouldn't even be called mayonnaise?
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:02 PM
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Obviously your mouth does not want to be introduced to rape.
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:58 PM
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Obviously your mouth does not want to be introduced to rape.
You are right. There is no such thing as Canola oil. It is a marketing terrm. The Can is for Canadian, the oil is for, well oil.

It is rape seed oil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_napus
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Old 09-02-2011, 04:41 PM
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The "ola" part is "oil, low acid." Canola is not just any kind of rapeseed oil, from my understanding.
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Old 09-02-2011, 06:58 PM
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I make my own mayo from a 3:1 mixture of soybean and olive oil. Thanks for the warning on the canola.
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Old 09-02-2011, 09:24 PM
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I make mine with safflower oil, some sort of nut oil (walnut, almond, macadamia) and olive oil.
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:40 PM
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Canola oil used for cooking or salad dressings is equally vile.

The Brassicas, per Wikipedia:

Almost all parts of some species or other have been developed for food, including the root (rutabaga, turnips), stems (kohlrabi), leaves (cabbage, kale), flowers (cauliflower, broccoli), and seeds (many, including mustard seed, and oil-producing rapeseed).

... which should give you a hint why the taste isn't the most appealing (think sulfur).

I use corn oil for most things -- the oil of choice for New World patriots. Internationalists can use soybean oil. Plus regional oils as appropriate for the dish (olive oil for Mediterranean, for example).

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Old 09-04-2011, 01:03 PM
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Kraft mayo made with olive oil comes in a nice rectangular bottle with a pretty label and is unspeakably vile. No relation to mayonnaise at ALL.
But that's different from home-made. I hope.
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:07 PM
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You are right. There is no such thing as Canola oil. It is a marketing terrm. The Can is for Canadian, the oil is for, well oil.

It is rape seed oil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_napus
That's like saying there's no such thing as Royal Galas. Royal Gala is just a marketing term. They're apples.
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:57 PM
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Is there something especially unwholesome or unorganic about soybean oil?
besides the fact that its one of the top 10 food allergens?
Soy in spite of what they would like you to believe is not some wonder food.

(I have a personal issue with soy, as I am intolerant and that shit is in EVERYTHING.)
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Old 09-04-2011, 05:36 PM
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besides the fact that its one of the top 10 food allergens?
Soy in spite of what they would like you to believe is not some wonder food.

(I have a personal issue with soy, as I am intolerant and that shit is in EVERYTHING.)
An allergy is to a protein. Soybean oil, properly distilled, has no protein. If a person is truly allergic to soy, they should not have an issue with commercial soybean oil.
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Old 09-04-2011, 06:03 PM
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The cultivar that is used in making Canola oil is quite different from the original. Several unpleasant/poisonous compounds have been significantly reduced. You do not want to eat regular rapeseed oil. Having distinct terms is useful, although the trademark issue doesn't help. (So there's no common term for Canola-type oils.)

Perhaps the OP is tasting some of the residual erucic acid or glucosinolates.
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Old 09-05-2011, 02:15 PM
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I confess - we buy the canola oil mayo all the time - supposedly healthier (cholesterol) and we haven't found any horrible after taste. Far better than that Miracle Whip but will agree it is not the same as home-made mayo (which I have made in the past).
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Old 09-05-2011, 03:32 PM
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An allergy is to a protein. Soybean oil, properly distilled, has no protein. If a person is truly allergic to soy, they should not have an issue with commercial soybean oil.
I am intolerant in much the same way I am to milk. the oil or any other variant has about the same effect. not sure how normal this is though
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:36 PM
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Rapeseed mayonnaise - it's great

Really surprised to hear the negative comments about rapeseed (canola) mayonnaise.

Cold pressed rapeseed oil is very healthy, it's environmental to produce and tastes great. Rapeseed oil mayonnaise is the best I have tasted by far.

Healthwise it is high in linoneic and linolenic acid, which are converted in the body to omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids. It contains no transfats, is high in mono-unsaturates mostly omega 9 and is lower in saturated fat than olive oil.

Do yourself a favor and buy a bottle.
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:00 PM
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The Canadian Board of Rape is at it again. Only buy the ones with the official seal of approval.
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:06 PM
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Mayonnaise: simply awful

I agree
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:08 PM
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Only buy the ones with the official seal of approval.
Legitimate rapeseed oil, if you will.
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:13 PM
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If it's gross, your body won't digest it?
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:50 PM
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It's not often we get an agri-business shill signing up to defend rape.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:03 AM
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It's not often we get an agri-business shill signing up to defend rape.
Presumably this is aimed at quality but why do you assume he/she is "an agri-business shill"? Maybe different in the the States/Canada but cold pressed virgin rapeseed oil is a high end specialist product around here, produced by single, family owned farms and advocated by celebrity chefs.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:10 AM
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Legitimate rapeseed oil, if you will.
Mixed with some Date oil and its great.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:11 AM
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I agree with the OP. That stuff is nasty.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:38 AM
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That's like saying there's no such thing as Royal Galas. Royal Gala is just a marketing term. They're apples.
Royal Gala is a specific cultivar of apples among many, many others. "Canola" is not a kind of oil but a branding of rapeseed oil.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:46 AM
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Mixed with some Date oil and its great.
* smack billfish with...*
Never mind, that was a good one.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:47 AM
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"Canola" is not a kind of oil but a branding of rapeseed oil.
In related news, baby oil isn't made from babies and Mars Bars are made right here on Earth.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:52 AM
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In related news, baby oil isn't made from babies and Mars Bars are made right here on Earth.
Way to miss my point which was that the situation regarding Canola is not equivalent to considering Royal Gala a branding of Apples (which it isn't, since apples aren't just apples).

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Old 11-22-2012, 09:56 AM
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Royal Gala is a specific cultivar of apples among many, many others. "Canola" is not a kind of oil but a branding of rapeseed oil.
Bzzt, see my previous post. It comes from a cultivar. By your logic, all apples are one kind and naming different varieties is wrong.

If you were to eat original rapeseed oil, you would get very, very sick.
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Old 11-22-2012, 03:01 PM
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Ok. Ignorance fought. I must have missed your post about the canola cultivar. What about the rapeseed oil we get in Europe? No Canola here, just (what I thought was) plain ol rapeseed oil. Other, local cultivars, perhaps?
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:29 PM
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Ok. Ignorance fought. I must have missed your post about the canola cultivar. What about the rapeseed oil we get in Europe? No Canola here, just (what I thought was) plain ol rapeseed oil. Other, local cultivars, perhaps?
Like I said, the brand name Canola Oil appears to have no generic equivalent for low erucic acid rapeseed oil.
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