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Old 04-06-2013, 12:08 PM
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How to Removed Burned On Crud from a Nonstick Pan?

Reminded by this recently resurrected thread, I have a related question.

How do you remove crud that somehow gets burned on.to a nonstick pan? The powerhouse methods mentioned in that thread will destroy such a pan. I've tried the boiling water and lots of scrubbing pad route with little luck.
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Old 04-06-2013, 12:16 PM
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Reminded by this recently resurrected thread, I have a related question.

How do you remove crud that somehow gets burned on.to a nonstick pan? The powerhouse methods mentioned in that thread will destroy such a pan. I've tried the boiling water and lots of scrubbing pad route with little luck.
Have you tried scrubbing with coarse salt like kosher or sea salt? Use a generous amount of salt and a touch of water or cooking oil and scrub like crazy. It should be gentler on the non-stick coating that other methods, though I can't guarantee it won't do any damage. It's very possible that the non-stick is already shot if you have something burnt in that badly.
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Old 04-06-2013, 12:39 PM
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Cook some bacon in the pan, leave the grease in for a few days. Rinse. If it doesn't come clean, cook some more bacon. You always come out ahead with this method.
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Old 04-06-2013, 12:50 PM
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If something gets burned onto a nonstick pan to the extent that it won't just come off after a good soak, it's probably an indication that the non-stick surface has been overheated and destroyed.
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I love that the title of this thread and the next right now are:

How to Removed Burned On Crud from a Nonstick Pan?

Is this a misuse of the word ironic?

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Old 04-06-2013, 02:24 PM
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I love that the title of this thread and the next right now are:

How to Removed Burned On Crud from a Nonstick Pan?

Is this a misuse of the word ironic?



You've just invented a Dope game. See you on mundane pointless things...
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Madame Pepperwinkle suggests bleach water. Princess Pepperwinkle suggests hot vinegar water. Allons-y!
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Scrubbing with baking soda can work pretty good.
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Old 04-06-2013, 03:56 PM
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Mangetout is correct. If something is stuck to a non-stick pan, the pan is no longer non-stick.
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Old 04-06-2013, 04:45 PM
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Mangetout is correct. If something is stuck to a non-stick pan, the pan is no longer non-stick.
Agreed. I recommend pitching it and buying some real cookware.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:56 PM
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Cook some bacon in the pan, leave the grease in for a few days. Rinse. If it doesn't come clean, cook some more bacon. You always come out ahead with this method.
The solution to everything.
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:16 PM
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If something gets burned onto a nonstick pan to the extent that it won't just come off after a good soak, it's probably an indication that the non-stick surface has been overheated and destroyed.

NOPE, I cleaned off black stuff off a non-stick and the non-stick stuff was alright still.

I reckon it comes down to the oilyness of the teflon at the time the food got burnt, the stuff being burnt, the exact temperature it burnt at, and how loudly sabres were rattling at the time... and a sample size of one. Just because when you did it, you wrecked the teflon, doesn't mean that everytime food gets a bit too stuck to brush off then the telfon is wrecked.. Heard of Hydrogen bonding ? the teflon has plenty of hydrocarbon.. its hydrophobic, but the foot isn't water when its really really cooked up.

The theory is that scratching it off with something made of a material a few notches softer than the teflon won't damage the teflon too much.

THe scrubbing with salt crystals idea works because rubbing like that should scratch the surface...
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:14 PM
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I can vouch from personal experience that the oven cleaner trick mentioned in the other thread also works with nonstick. And this was crud that resisted soaking, acid (vinegar) and Barkeeper's Friend. The nonstick coating survived pretty well, mainly because it was a quirky culinary accident in the first place (3 lb chopped onions in a covered pot, then got distracted by something else), hot enough to carbonize sugars but apparently not hot enough to break down and off-gas much of the PTFE. YMMV.
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Heard of Hydrogen bonding ? the teflon has plenty of hydrocarbon.
Really? Cite please.
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nd a sample size of one. Just because when you did it, you wrecked the teflon, doesn't mean that everytime food gets a bit too stuck to brush off then the telfon is wrecked.
Also, who said anything about a sample size of one? If you heat teflon above 260 Celsius, it starts to break down.
The conditions in which this may happen in a Teflon pan are the same conditions in which food turns into burnt, crispy, baked-on carbonised material.

Sure, you might be lucky in some cases, but the fact that there is burnt, insoluble food residue in the pan is an indicator that the temperature may have exceeded the limit for Teflon.
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the teflon has plenty of hydrocarbon..
I don't think you know what "teflon" or "hydrocarbon" or both mean.
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I don't think you know what "teflon" or "hydrocarbon" or both mean.
Or indeed 'Nonstick'.
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You can also try boiling/simmering/soaking water with dishwasher detergent in it. It's low foaming and pretty effective at loosening up crud without manual agitation.

I am also swayed by Mangetout's point that your teflon may already be toast.

I would NOT use salt, it is very abrasive, and I think is sure to scratch the hell out of teflon. I've seen it take the finish off of a cast iron pan (in spots), teflon is going to be no match.
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I've always had good luck with one of those plastic scraper things .

With my beat up non-stick pans, once I got under part of it, I could basically chisel the rest off fairly easily, since the beat up non-stick coating still helped, even if it didn't prevent the sticking in the first place.

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It's interesting that so many people are using teflon as a generic. I haven't owned an actual Teflon brand pan for years and I don't think I've seen one in a store in that long. I think of them as nonstick pans.

As a word usage, the amount of teflon in this thread surprised me and this ngrams chart backs it up.
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Try simmering milk in the pan to remove the crud. I`ve done this many times and saved many a pot or pan.
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It's interesting that so many people are using teflon as a generic. I haven't owned an actual Teflon brand pan for years and I don't think I've seen one in a store in that long. I think of them as nonstick pans.
I always asked students to write PTFE if it wasn't from Dupont.
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I love that the title of this thread and the next right now are:

How to Removed Burned On Crud from a Nonstick Pan?

Is this a misuse of the word ironic?



You've just invented a Dope game. See you on mundane pointless things...
More like discovered a Dope game that has been going on, like, forever. There is almost always at least one "Sequential threads" thread running in MPSIMS. I am rather shocked that Cal does not already know this.
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It's interesting that so many people are using teflon as a generic. I haven't owned an actual Teflon brand pan for years and I don't think I've seen one in a store in that long. I think of them as nonstick pans.

As a word usage, the amount of teflon in this thread surprised me and this ngrams chart backs it up.
This misuse of trademarked names makes me cry. I'll have to wipe my tears with a kleenex.
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:51 AM
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This misuse of trademarked names makes me cry. I'll have to wipe my tears with a kleenex.
You misunderstand. It's not that I care about the generic, it's that I never normally hear it. Almost always the word in use is "nonstick." The usage has swung over, with teflon being outmoded.
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The problem with 'nonstick' is that the word is results oriented, not technology oriented. A pan could theoretically be made 'nonstick' via a variety of technologies, not necessarily PTFE.

PTFE is a crappy name for the product, what it really needs is a somewhat descriptive name that identifies PTFE but not the DuPont Brand. So, like Kleenex Brand tissues, you would have Teflon Brand _______.
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For the end user, it probably doesn't matter what it's made of - 'nonstick' is quite adequate as a generic term, even if it happens to encompass a range of technologies.

That is, if we really are not to genericise.'Teflon '
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I thought the proper generic name was "fluoropolymer".
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You misunderstand. It's not that I care about the generic, it's that I never normally hear it. Almost always the word in use is "nonstick." The usage has swung over, with teflon being outmoded.
I've heard it a lot. Not just metaphorically, but even in the plastics industry it's sometimes referred to generically as 'Teflon' even though everyone knows it's PTFE. But the names of plastics are a smorgasbord of acrobreviations and trade names, so it's just easier to use a highly recognizable name sometimes. For home appliances though, it may just be an age thing where so many items used to be labelled as Teflon. I'm not sure how I would typically say it, I suppose it's probably about the same as amount of usage for non-stick and Teflon. But seeing your OP I did assume Teflon.

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You misunderstand. It's not that I care about the generic, it's that I never normally hear it. Almost always the word in use is "nonstick." The usage has swung over, with teflon being outmoded.
This line of conversation is a bit of a hijack of the original topic, but you're the OP so I assume that's okay. Here's the thing. For some people, Teflon has become something of a dirty word. As a consequence, many marketers decided to use "nonstick" instead, implying it's something different. A related subterfuge is touting PFOA-free (a different issue) as implying Teflon (i.e., PTFE) free. For example, I've had several sales associates at Sur la Table make exactly this claim with respect to Scanpan cookware, even though it is in fact a PTFE-treated surface. I grok that you're not making this mistake, but it's common.

To make matters more confusing, there are a few ceramic surfaces without PTFE also being marketed as nonstick. (Although mostly-nonstick or stick-resistant would be more accurate.) All of which is to say, if we're going to be careful speakers (and writers), saying (or writing) nonstick without specifying PTFE or non-PTFE is a usage we should avoid. IMHO.
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Yes, bacon can be used for so many things. But crispness can be painful.
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take your pan that things- aren't- supposed-to- stick- in- for- whatever- bloody- reason (christ people tonato, tomato who cares?) pour oil in it and simmer for a long time, occasionally turning down the heat and carefully poking the crud with a hamburger flipper to try to loosen. after a while turn off and set aside oil and in something else and scrub really hard with spatula/flipper or non scratch scrubbie thing at edges. you'll probably get part off and have to repeat oil process.

I had manwich sauce get stuck in a pan and this worked, in fact second clean up it actually came off with the paper towel I was using to get some of the oil.

I thick it has something to with ingredients with lots of sugar and acid.

pan was fine after that. good luck
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...carefully poking the crud with a hamburger flipper...
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Crud on non stick pans

The bacon person was absolutely correct. I put two tablespoons of bacon fat in the pan heated it up and it is now beautiful again. Thank you!!!!
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Just tried hot oil on Circulon Dutch oven

The problem was burnt on sugar/oil crud from my forgetting about chopped onions and minced garlic caramelizing in olive oil. The result was a thick, hard as rock black coating on the Teflon bottom of a Circulon Dutch oven.

What didn't work: baking soda solution overnight, simmered baking soda, soaking in Dawn dish washing detergent (which usually cleans almost anything), and simmering with Dawn. The crud wasn't removable. Then I found this site.

The postings about just using hot oil combined with the bacon postings had one thing in common: hot oil on the surface. So here's what worked:

- Three tablespoons of olive oil in the pot.
- Heat on medium-high while using a plastic spatula to circulate the oil and work on the crud. As soon as the oil was hot, the crud started easily coming off.
- The Circulon bottom is grooved so I used a tough plastic brush to remove the remnants of the crud from within the grooves.
- Wiped up the oil with paper towels
- Washed with hot water and Dawn to finish.

The 10 year old pot is as good as it was before.

Thanks to this site and your suggestions.

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I've simply soaked pans overnight with good results. However in most if not all cases it was an indication that the nonstick was failing and I needed a new pan.
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What the bacon fat was, was just a temperature guage. If it starts smoking, its hot enough.
Having this just let you feel safe in raising the temperature of the pan up ... you weren't worried the smoke was the PTFE burning off.

So when the bacon fat was just about decomposing, the stuff from lower temperature oils and fats was definitely decomposing. Perhaps there was some help from soaking the black stuff in detergent and water, as the water may create some pressure as it boils..

You will notice top brand cookware has really smooth PTFE ... this is applied at high pressure to ensure its dense and smooth and solid, and less likely to accept black stuff and easier to get the black stuff off.



Cheap stuff is all bumpy, like it applied with no pressure (as you do for painting a wall using a paint roller or sprayer.), its low density, perhaps with air bubbles in it, and its going to have the black stuff stick and its hard to clean..
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