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Old 02-05-2014, 01:56 PM
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Bill Clinton fucked supermodel Elizabeth Hurley in the White House (says Tom Sizemore)

Hurley’s Ex-Lover Caught On Bombshell Audio Recording Revealing Ex-Prez’s White House Sex Romps Behind Wife Hillary’s Back

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/20...hillarys-back/

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Bill Clinton allegedly fucked supermodel Elizabeth Hurley in the White House

As Hillary Clinton prepares to run for President in 2016, RadarOnline.com has uncovered bombshell new information that could torpedo her White House dreams: The philandering husband of the former United States Secretary of State, ex-President Bill Clinton, carried on a torrid year-long love affair with British supermodel Elizabeth Hurley behind White House walls.

That’s the explosive revelation dropped by the man who says he arranged the secret tryst, actor Tom Sizemore.

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Old 02-05-2014, 01:59 PM
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My first thought was "Good for him," and my second is "wow, this website must be desperate." Go ahead and tell me how a report that Bill Clinton cheated on his wife (something we've known for 15 years) is supposed to hurt her supposed presidential campaign in 2016.
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:02 PM
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My first thought was "Good for him," and my second is "wow, this website must be desperate." Go ahead and tell me how a report that Bill Clinton cheated on his wife (something we've known for 15 years) is supposed to hurt her supposed presidential campaign in 2016
They wanna smear both Clintons because their political enemies figure if Hillary wins POTUS then Bill will be in the White House probably every day, and calling the shots behind the curtains.

At least thats what I think they're trying to accomplish with all this
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On another note: Esco, the SDMB is pretty restrictive when it comes to copyright matters. Please don't cut and paste entire articles from other sites. Please just use enough to give people the gist of the story and link to the rest.
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:06 PM
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Not credible. She was too good-looking for his taste.
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:07 PM
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On This Week (Sunday political news program hosted by George Stephanopoulos), they were discussing Jeb Bush as a potential Republican candidate. He's indicated that he's thinking about running. So the 2016 race could be a sort-of rerun of the 1992 race; Clinton vs. Bush, and we could end up with either a second Clinton or the third Bush in the White House.
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:08 PM
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On another note: Esco, the SDMB is pretty restrictive when it comes to copyright matters. Please don't cut and paste entire articles from other sites. Please just use enough to give people the gist of the story and link to the rest
Okay, will do
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:09 PM
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If anything, this story just makes Clinton look better: We already knew he was fooling around on the side; this just says that he was fooling around with someone really hot and high-status. So?
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:10 PM
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I always thought it weird that the "most powerful man on Earth" was limited to the likes of Monica Lewinsky. Elizabeth Hurley, now that's more like it.
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:17 PM
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They wanna smear both Clintons because their political enemies figure if Hillary wins POTUS then Bill will be in the White House probably every day, and calling the shots behind the curtains.
It could be that or a lot of other things. Sizemore could be bored or dicking them around. I think if the Clinton's "enemies" think they can hurt her by talking about his affairs in the '90s, they're probably mistaken since he wound up looking better than his Congressional opposition did. Rand Paul sort of feinted in that direction recently but I don't know if anybody would really try to make a campaign issue of it. All of that said, I don't believe this story anyway.
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The only way this is a story is if Hillary joined them.
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:18 PM
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Who considers Tom Sizemore a reliable source?
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:25 PM
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So, basically, the plan is to make Bill even more JFK-like?
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:26 PM
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The only way this is a story is if Hillary joined them.
The lack of any actual story hasn't stopped the right wing from running with a scandal before. I don't see why this should be any different. I'm expecting Bill O'Reilly to do a segment on whether Clinton disrespected veterans of the War of 1812 by having sex with a British person in the White House.
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:29 PM
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So, this is just the break the Dole campaign is looking for?
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:41 PM
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I can't fault a man for doing something I'd gladly do myself! Lucky Bill
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:45 PM
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I think Sizemore needs to remember what Clinton had done to Vince Foster.
SPOILER:
Never mind, he didn't
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Unless this is a bowl of steaming bullshit, why is this in Cafe Society?
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A fair point. I'm picking up my tongs and moving this to MPSIMS.
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So if my spouse cheats on me, *I* should not hold office? Even after 20 years? Talk about blaming the victim...
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:48 PM
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Liz denies the whole thing: http://mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrit...s-bill-3114609

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Liz Hurley furiously denies 'President Clinton affair', branding White House sex rumours 'ludicrous'

Elizabeth Hurley has been forced to deny she had a year long affair with President Bill Clinton after claims he flew her to the White House where they had sex. The actress took to Twitter to tell her 450,000 followers: "Ludicrously silly stories about me & Bill Clinton. Totally untrue. In the hands of my lawyers. Yawn."

Pic: http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...ll-3113948.jpg

<read more at link>

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So if my spouse cheats on me, *I* should not hold office? Even after 20 years? Talk about blaming the victim...
Well, that is #4 in the standard Republican policy manual.
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Who considers Tom Sizemore a reliable source?
His meth dealer?
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:17 PM
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Nice.
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So if my spouse cheats on me, *I* should not hold office? Even after 20 years? Talk about blaming the victim...
Depends - which one of you is male?
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:38 PM
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The lack of any actual story hasn't stopped the right wing from running with a scandal before.
How is RadarOnline, the story that was linked in the OP, connected to the right wing?
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Who considers Tom Sizemore a reliable source?
Yes, the multiple drug arrests and the imploded acting career make his credibility somewhat suspect.
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:42 PM
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How is RadarOnline, the story that was linked in the OP, connected to the right wing?
Good point. If anything that site comes across as Left-wing
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:45 PM
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The lack of any actual story hasn't stopped the right wing from running with a scandal before.
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How is RadarOnline, the story that was linked in the OP, connected to the right wing?
I'm pretty sure Miller was saying the right wing would use the article as the basis to create a 'scandal', not that RadarOnline was connected to the right wing.
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If anything, I was mostly trying to make a War of 1812 joke.
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Go ahead and tell me how a report that Bill Clinton cheated on his wife (something we've known for 15 years) is supposed to hurt her supposed presidential campaign in 2016.
Agreed. I despise Hillary Clinton only slightly less than I despise Hanoi Jane, but I don't really see how this hurts her, if it is even true...
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:55 PM
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As long as he didn't fuck her in the brown house, IYKWIM.
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Who considers Tom Sizemore a reliable source?
That's what I was thinking... except more along the lines of "Isn't Tom Sizemore a known crackhead and lunatic?"
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:56 PM
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If true, I don't blame him a bit. She's entirely fuckable. However, Clinton's "dialogue" sounds like it was written by a 14-year old boy. "I'm saving the world from nuclear war. Get over here!"

Uh-huh.
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That's what I was thinking... except more along the lines of "Isn't Tom Sizemore a known crackhead and lunatic?"
Yup. I'd forgotten how sleazy Tom Sizemore is- or I guess I should say I'd forgotten who Tom Sizemore is.
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So he had an affair lasting a year? And nobody leaked it? Highly improbable. She would have had to check in and out with White House security guards and pass any number of hall walkers to get to the private quarters. One of them would have leaked this by now. Sizemore has a long history of drug use and arrests, requiring a restraining order from his wife, Heidi Fleiss, of all people. Also, Radar Online is a gossip rag and likely pays for stories like this. Sizemore probably needs the money. Lastly, Republicans will try to tar Hillary with any brush they can dig out of the garbage can. Making it stick to her is another story.
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Genuine question: Who is Tom Sizemore?

(Oh, I could google him, I suppose, but I have never heard of him and would like to get the scoop from those who know )
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Genuine question: Who is Tom Sizemore?

(Oh, I could google him, I suppose, but I have never heard of him and would like to get the scoop from those who know )
Hollywood actor.

He has a serious meth/cocaine/crack problem, and was even on a TV show called Celebrity Rehab.

He also dated Heidi Fleisch(sp?) for a bit
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Not credible. She was too good-looking for his taste.
No, just far too scrawny.
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Old 02-05-2014, 04:53 PM
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I think Sizemore could have been a really good actor if he hadn't gone astray. He was good in Saving Private Ryan and I thought he could have gone somewhere.

Somebody must have faith in him, I see on IMDB he has 18 projects scheduled for 2014 and 2015.

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Old 02-05-2014, 05:25 PM
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The lack of any actual story hasn't stopped the right wing from running with a scandal before.
True. (Or the left wing.)

The only way this non-story has any sort of impact is if some fool right-wingers make a big deal about it. Then Hillary moves up a few points in the polls, from symphathy.

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Old 02-05-2014, 05:28 PM
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Okay, so...
  • The source's credibility is questionable
  • That Bill held a party in his pants for guests other than the First Lady while in office in both Little Rock and Washington is public knowledge, the surprising thing is that we have not had MORE people come out claiming to have been the object of Executive Action since he left office and the Missus took over the political shop.
  • If anything this particular incident would only make Bill look better. I'd say it's appropriate that it's Hurley who's talking of unleashing the lawyers -- it's a put down on HER.



Meh... Y'know what? The whole thing some people have been trying to pitch, that Hillary's forebearance of Bill's failings somehow makes HER unacceptable? That is TIRED by now. So they say this marriage is a political partnership to help one another's career? Well that's out-doggone-standing! Way to frikkin' go, Bill and Hill. Most Excellent. Applause, kudos and admiration all around. I wanna marry a girl like that. (And hey, if in 2000 you would have put up on the board the Clintons, the Gores and the Edwardses and asked folks to place bets on which political marriage would endure, a lot of people would have lost a heap of money).

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One things for sure, they look very chummy in this pic:

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...ll-3113948.jpg
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Hollywood actor.

He has a serious meth/cocaine/crack problem, and was even on a TV show called Celebrity Rehab.

He also dated Heidi Fleisch(sp?) for a bit
Sounds like a very reliable guy, then! Thank you.
(my first thought was a ball player of the seventies, used to bat behind Lou Brock in the Cardinals lineup, but then I realized that was Ted, not Tom)
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One things for sure, they look very chummy in this pic:

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...ll-3113948.jpg
Which you already posted once. Did we not give you a good enough reaction?
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I think Sizemore could have been a really good actor if he hadn't gone astray. He was good in Saving Private Ryan and I thought he could have gone somewhere.

Somebody must have faith in him, I see on IMDB he has 18 projects scheduled for 2014 and 2015.
Tom Sizemore was on Dr. Phil in April 2013 talking about his cocaine and heroin use, the craziness with Heidi Fleiss, going to prison, and otherwise ruining his life. He came across as genuinely remorseful and humbled, so maybe that's why Hollywood is returning his calls again Kimballkid? Dunno.

Here is a youtube link to the Dr. Phil episode. The interview starts at 21:33 and goes for about 20 mins.

He co-starred in a lot of 90's action movies, although you may not know the name.

Potentially relevant to this thread: Tom Sizemore was in a relationship with Liz Hurley in the early 90's.
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My first thought was "Good for him," and my second is "wow, this website must be desperate." Go ahead and tell me how a report that Bill Clinton cheated on his wife (something we've known for 15 years) is supposed to hurt her supposed presidential campaign in 2016.
The sad thing of what you just said is that I don't think it will hurt her chances at all, but if it were a male candidate whose wife was whoring around it would hurt his chances of getting elected.
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It seems unlikely, but if it's true then all I have to say is ... Awesome!
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Now we know why Bill is smiling.


I agree it seems unlikely. Hurly is way too good looking to be screwing a middle aged President 15 years ago.

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So he had an affair lasting a year? And nobody leaked it? Highly improbable. She would have had to check in and out with White House security guards and pass any number of hall walkers to get to the private quarters. One of them would have leaked this by now.
I think you are a bit too utopian in your outlook.
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