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Old 05-21-2014, 12:59 AM
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Don't Move to Portland: A Rant

I've lived in the "Rose City" for over 3 years now and personally I can't wait until I can find a way out and move to another city.

While it's become a hip place to live over the past 10 or 20 years, it's totally overhyped. The food is mediocre. The public transit is EXTREMELY overrated. If you live more than 3 miles from downtown or want to go out to party after midnight, GOOD LUCK if you don't have a car and can't afford a cab.

The weather sucks. I enjoyed the weather in Montana way more when I lived there if that tells you anything. Do NOT listen to anyone who tells you Portland has a mild pleasant climate. 8-9 months of the year it's either dark and cold or sunny and freezing cold, and the rest of the year it's oppressively hot and nowhere seems to be air conditioned. Winter is just barely too warm for snow and insulation in apartments is subpar, so basically you will suffer as much as you would in a Northern winter except you almost never get to enjoy snow. Not to mention winter is so DARK here. Summers are not as mild as people think, it hits 100 degrees most years, nights are often uncomfortably balmy and it can get surprisingly hot and sticky despite what people will tell you about the wonderful "dry heat" we supposedly enjoy here. And it almost never rains in the summer and most buildings trap every ounce of heat, so there's pretty much no relief from late June to early September. If you catch a cough there's a good chance you'll have it for the rest of the year.

Even worse, I suffer year-round respiratory problems due to the allergens and mold here. I actually get pneumonia the first year I moved here, and nearly ended up hospitalized. I feel like I constantly have a cold. I barely even know what it's like to have clear sinuses.

Portland is not any more "close to nature" than your given eastern city. If you want to live near nature, live in a southern city like Atlanta or Asheville. And no, Forest Park doesn't count as "nature" as it's overgrown by ivy. There are no decent places to swim in Portland; you'd never want to swim in the ice cold and filthy Willamette let alone the Columbia. And the nature trails near Multnomah Falls are packed with hundreds of Chinese tourists any given day of the year. Skiing and snowboarding sucks in Oregon and you'll never get to enjoy nature if you live without a car unless you have friends generous enough to give you a ride up. Just forget about a day trip to the Coast without a vehicle.

Portlanders are not friendly people and as a rule are terrified of strangers. People look at you funny if you say "good morning" or "hello" and the women are especially unfriendly. Portland is a horrible place to be single, especially if you're a man. And I don't understand why the attractive women here all have to ruin their bodies with 50 tattoos and huge gauge piercings. Whenever I leave Portland I'm always reminded that I'm actually attracted to the opposite sex.

Politically Portland is essentially a chavvy urban redneck city with a very large and outspoken vegan/feminist/"green"/yuppie center located mostly in the region bounded by Forest Park, 82nd St, Powell Blvd and Alberta St. This region is what I would term "Portlandia proper". The rest of the city is no different from your typical Rust Belt city in Ohio and like Cleveland, has pathetic infrastructure and has been forgotten. There are even gravel roads in East Portland, parts of it are practically Third World.

It should be noted that the "leftists" here have no socialist consciousness whatsoever and are just as self-righteous and judgmental as your most bigoted right winger. They are "Whole Paycheck" liberals, not revolutionaries. They will talk about living in North Portland like it is some moral choice, and pat themselves on the back for living in a place that's 20% black as opposed to 1% black. This is a perfect example of the "hipster racism" prevalent in a state that has a racial history that's arguably uglier than Alabama's. Oregon didn't even allow black people to LIVE here for a long time, yet they are constantly asking their friends to check their "white privilege".

People here have no ambition and the city itself produces almost no culture. What was the last famous music act to come out of Portland, freakin' Quarterflash? This is the city that spawned Courtney Love and Tonya Harding. Even the most well known "Portland" indie bands the Shins and Modest Mouse moved here from other states.

While I'm certainly a fan of working to live as opposed to the other way around, the lack of opportunity here doesn't give anyone a choice. This is a great city to be an addict but not a good place to become successful. The schools are terrible too. I didn't live here as a kid, but from what I've heard the public schools are awful and I know from experience the colleges are terrible. PCC is a joke and so is Portland State. Unless you're leet enough for Reed College I suggest either moving to Eugene or Corvallis (if you can tolerate living there) or just leaving the state entirely.

Back to the food. Why is it that in a city of 2 million, Panda Express is literally the best game in town for Chinese food? And does anyone really need a Thai place on every corner, each with more or less an identical menu? I have little interest in spending 10 bucks on a bunch of noodles anyway. Same with the food carts - yes there are hundreds of them, but most of them are clones of each other. I will give shoutouts to Kolbeh's Persian lunch buffet and Dwaraka's Indian lunch buffet but in general unless you're a vegan and hate food anyway this is not a good city to be a "foodie". Voodoo Donut is cool to show your friends in town but it doesn't make up for the utter lack of great food in this city.

The most overrated thing about Portland though is definitely the transit. I have no idea how TriMet has reached this legendary Utopian status. I suppose the transit system used to be much better, not to mention much cheaper ($2.50 each way for a bus? REALLY?) but the fact is for a city of this size it's mediocre at best. I guess this is America and in most cities just having one bus line will cause people to accuse the city government of being communist, but let's face it. The MAX light rail is pretty much a very expensive toy. I'd say it goes no faster than twenty miles per hour on average and it's completely useless to at least 90 percent of the people who live here. It costs $14 per person per ride to the taxpayers so it doesn't even matter that most people don't pay the $2.50 fare.

Buses at rush hours make me feel like I'm in India and don't be surprised if you are sitting in that bus stop for 28 minutes. Oh yeah and if you're in North Portland or anywhere outside of the Portlandia region and it's past 10 PM, ha. Good luck getting home. The only thing worse than Trimet is Portland traffic, and despite the popularity of biking to work here, I would NEVER bike in Portland considering the drivers are crazy and our traffic is worse than most major cities in China.

Anyway, I can't wait to live. I'd love to live somewhere like Boston or Virginia if I have to stay in the US but other than that, I'd love to move to the United Kingdom or Germany!
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Reported for move to the Pit.
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OP, many of us native Oregonians would be happy to address your issues individually, but I'll wait until this gets moved to the Pit so I can respond appropriately.
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Old 05-21-2014, 02:01 AM
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Back to the food. Why is it that in a city of 2 million, Panda Express is literally the best game in town for Chinese food?
I take it you've never been to Chinatown, then.
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...and don't get me started on all the Wesen! (since we're still in CS)

I must say, Grimm doesn't give the impression Portland is some sort of hippy paradise. It makes it look ... a lot like the OP describes, actually, only more pleasant.

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Not sure why this should be moved to the pit. Sure the OP hates Portland, but he offers concrete reasons for his dislike, he doesn't use foul language or attack any particular indivudual, there's not a lot of bigotry evident. If someone wants to Pit the OP, I guess they can, but not seeing why this should be a Pit thread. It would fit a lot more comfortably in IMHO, IMHO.

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Old 05-21-2014, 03:46 AM
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I thought Oregon and Washington were for losers who tried and couldn't handle California.
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That weather does indeed sound awful.

For the rest, you just sound poor. And in need of a car.
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Old 05-21-2014, 09:47 AM
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I take it you've never been to Chinatown, then.
My grandpa used to take us to this little hole in the wall place, it looked more like a gas station from the outside. Sorry, I was a kid, so I don't know where it was but probably Sandy Blvd somewhere. Oh... Such good food. Always fresh, and freshly made. I haven't had Chinese that good since my Grandpa passed.
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Not sure why this should be moved to the pit. Sure the OP hates Portland, but he offers concrete reasons for his dislike, he doesn't use foul language or attack any particular indivudual, there's not a lot of bigotry evident. If someone wants to Pit the OP, I guess they can, but not seeing why this should be a Pit thread. It would fit a lot more comfortably in IMHO, IMHO.
He criticized tattoos and piercings, and worse, expressed a preference about women's appearances. He may as well have put his head in the SDMB guillotine.
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So when Mt. Hood cuts loose and does some urban renewal, you won't mind?
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Old 05-21-2014, 10:14 AM
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Bad food? I believe the OP may be completely barkers.
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I fully endorse this "pitting". I don't agree with most of it, but it's getting a little crowded around here.
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Suggestion to the OP.... Move to Boise for a year. Portland will look much better then.
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Montana has way less going on than Portland. Pretty much anywhere else in the US is more hoppin' than Montana. Maybe not Wyoming.
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I'm in New York, so every place else sucks by comparison anyway.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:36 AM
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OP, you might have some valid points, but you lose credibility with some ridiculous statements. No good food? Um, no. For Chinese food specifically, check out the original Chinatown or the new one (82nd Ave). No nature because...there's ivy in a park? Multnomah Falls is bad not because there are too many tourists, but because there are too many Chinese tourists.

And if all the people aren't friendly to you, you might want to consider what the common factor is in that.
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I'd like to address the OP point by point, but it's way too long. I agree about public transit, which has degraded with bad economic times. I've been stranded downtown when the last bus of the night blew past us at 11:00 without stopping. On weekends, it only runs every hour to inner Southeast. Max, however, runs every 15 minutes until 1:00 a.m., but won't come out our way until the Milwaukee line is completed. I doubt that ridership after that is high enough to warrant continuing service.

Weather: well, it takes getting used to. First thing we did after buying our house was to install a heat pump. The 90-100 degree days are far too many for comfort. Agree with the allergy issues.

Strongly disagree with the comments about culture, food, art and music.

Strongly disagree with comments about friendly people, especially people in the business community who genuinely knock themselves out to be accommodating.

Portland drivers: holy fucking shit.

If PSU is a joke, why do they own such a huge amount of downtown real estate and have a gigantic enrollment?

In short, I agree with many things in the OP, but feel that he has let disgruntlement color his valuations of some things. He's probably better off leaving, since adjustment doesn't seem to be his strong suit. A word of caution, though: I've lived in both Boston and Virginia, and if you think the weather sucks here, you ain't seen nothin' yet.
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I fully endorse this "pitting". I don't agree with most of it, but it's getting a little crowded around here.
Three men go into a saloon; a Texan, a Californian, and an Oregonian. The Texan orders a tequila and tells the bartender to leave the bottle. He slugs back the shot, throws the bottle in the air, draws his gun and shoots the bottle. Tequila and glass fall everywhere and the bartender yells "What the heck are you doing?!"

"We've got plenty of tequila in Texas!" says the Texan.

The Californian orders a bottle of Chardonnay, drinks a glass then tosses the bottle in the air. He shoots the bottle out of the air, and white wine and glass go everywhere. "We've got plenty of wine in California!" says the Californian.

The Oregonian orders a Full Sail, drains the bottle in one chug, tosses the bottle in the air, shoots the Californian, and catches the bottle. "What are you doing?!" shouts the bartender.

"We've got plenty of Californians in Oregon, but I've got to recycle this!"
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:35 PM
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"We've got plenty of Californians in Oregon, but I've got to recycle this!"
So what's the joke?
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:54 PM
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Recent Portland arrival checking in here.

Compared to the weather I left behind in Chicago, this place is paradise. I'll take 45 degrees and raining over waist-high snow any day and twice on Sunday.

Bad food? That's just a joke.

The drivers are polite to the point of absurdity. I must say it's still a bit startling to see people stop their cars without a sign just to let me cross the street.

I live in Hollywood, so the transit system works fine by me. I can catch a bus on Broadway or Sandy Blvd that gets me to 80% of the places I want to go, and I can hop on the Max if I want to go downtown. Compared to getting anywhere in Chicago, it's like falling off a log. The only occasional difficulty is finding a cab, but a city this small isn't going to have a lot of cabs.

And as for the people, their worst sin is a persistent flakiness — in Portland, the phrase "I'll call you" means something like "I'll talk to you next time we run into each other, whenever that is." That said, my wife and I have met some very friendly people and are on our way toward building a nice social circle.

So yeah, sorry you're having a lousy time. Me, I dig the place.
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Recent Portland arrival checking in here.

Compared to the weather I left behind in Chicago, this place is paradise. I'll take 45 degrees and raining over waist-high snow any day and twice on Sunday.

Bad food? That's just a joke.

The drivers are polite to the point of absurdity. I must say it's still a bit startling to see people stop their cars without a sign just to let me cross the street.

I live in Hollywood, so the transit system works fine by me. I can catch a bus on Broadway or Sandy Blvd that gets me to 80% of the places I want to go, and I can hop on the Max if I want to go downtown. Compared to getting anywhere in Chicago, it's like falling off a log. The only occasional difficulty is finding a cab, but a city this small isn't going to have a lot of cabs.

And as for the people, their worst sin is a persistent flakiness in Portland, the phrase "I'll call you" means something like "I'll talk to you next time we run into each other, whenever that is." That said, my wife and I have met some very friendly people and are on our way toward building a nice social circle.

So yeah, sorry you're having a lousy time. Me, I dig the place.
Welcome to the PNW! We've been here for four years now and like it more now than we did back then. Easiest place to get a cab is at a hotel, even if you're not a guest. You get used to the flakiness. . .sort of. People will listen to you politely and even agree with you, just to make you go away. That includes city officials, as we found out recently. I've got real issues with drivers here; I mentioned an accident that my wife saw, wherein a driver cut the corner on a turn and hit a stopped car head-on. I don't want cars stopping when there is no stop sign, just like I don't want them running a stop sign that's plainly visible. It goes against the right-of-way laws and is disconcerting because you never know what the hell they're going to do.
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Recent Portland arrival checking in here.

Compared to the weather I left behind in Chicago, this place is paradise. I'll take 45 degrees and raining over waist-high snow any day and twice on Sunday.

Bad food? That's just a joke.

The drivers are polite to the point of absurdity. I must say it's still a bit startling to see people stop their cars without a sign just to let me cross the street.

I live in Hollywood, so the transit system works fine by me. I can catch a bus on Broadway or Sandy Blvd that gets me to 80% of the places I want to go, and I can hop on the Max if I want to go downtown. Compared to getting anywhere in Chicago, it's like falling off a log. The only occasional difficulty is finding a cab, but a city this small isn't going to have a lot of cabs.

And as for the people, their worst sin is a persistent flakiness in Portland, the phrase "I'll call you" means something like "I'll talk to you next time we run into each other, whenever that is." That said, my wife and I have met some very friendly people and are on our way toward building a nice social circle.

So yeah, sorry you're having a lousy time. Me, I dig the place.

I loved this city when I first moved here too, but the flaws have grown on me. I'm not saying you'll feel the same as me in 3 years, but you might.
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Native Oregonian here. I've lived just 30 minutes or so south of Portland my entire life. One of the nicest things about living in the valley is you are just an hour one way to the beach and an hour the other way to rivers and mountains.
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Compared to the weather I left behind in Chicago, this place is paradise. I'll take 45 degrees and raining over waist-high snow any day and twice on Sunday.
So you moved from the 10th circle of weather hell to the 5th. That doesn't mean the weather is nice, it just nicer than the hell you came from.
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Didn't you live in Alaska for, like, ever? Is that not counted as Pacific Northwest? I can't imagine many places more Pacific, North or West than Alaska.
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The weather sucks. I enjoyed the weather in Montana way more when I lived there if that tells you anything. Do NOT listen to anyone who tells you Portland has a mild pleasant climate. 8-9 months of the year it's either dark and cold or sunny and freezing cold, and the rest of the year it's oppressively hot and nowhere seems to be air conditioned.

While I'm certainly a fan of working to live as opposed to the other way around, the lack of opportunity here doesn't give anyone a choice.
You didn't know about the weather beforehand? Really? Mediocre employment opportunities are well known too.

Question. Why did you move to Portland to begin with and what's it gonna take to leave?

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I fully endorse this "pitting". I don't agree with most of it, but it's getting a little crowded around here.
Yes.
And everything he mentioned - worse in Seattle. Don't move here either.

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Obviously the Op has good taste... mentioning that he would like to live in Virginia...
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You didn't know about the weather beforehand? Really? Mediocre employment opportunities are well known too.

Question. Why did you move to Portland to begin with and what's it gonna take to leave?
Didn't have much of a choice. My family moved to Oregon and then later my brother and I moved to the "city" here.
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Didn't you live in Alaska for, like, ever? Is that not counted as Pacific Northwest? I can't imagine many places more Pacific, North or West than Alaska.
It's pretty much considered its own area and not really part of the PNW, although some might include it. According to Wiki, it includes Washington, Oregon and British Columbia west of the Rocky Mountains. Southeast Alaska would certainly fall into the temperate rain forest classification, but that stops pretty abruptly not too far north of Juneau when one encounters the Wrangell-St. Elias Mountains.

While I was born in Juneau, we moved to Anchorage when I was ten; South Central Alaska doesn't resemble the PNW in the least and the rest of the state may as well be on another planet.

Side note: I left Alaska when I was 20 and didn't return until I was 50, then left again after 11 years.
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I grew up in Portland, went to school in Chicago for 2 years, then went back to Portland. I couldn't wait to get out either. Finally made it out when I was 30, haven't looked back.

I used to think to myself that it was the biggest one-horse town in the world. All the disadvantages of a city (traffic, smog, too many people) and none of the cultural benefits. A weird mix of redneck and ultra-liberal, urban and provincial. And the weather, oh yeah, that's what really drove me away.

Can't speak about the food since I'm sure everything has changed since I left, but nothing OP says surprises me as unlikely. Now that it's trendy there are probably trendy and overpriced places to eat.

In case you couldn't tell, I am so not interested in going back ever. I go to visit my sister on the coast, that's as close as I get.
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If any of you were considering a move to Portland but this thread changed your mind, I just want you to know that Austin sucks even more. So, um, don't move here either.
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Nevada is no good either. Keep moving on....
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Didn't have much of a choice. My family moved to Oregon and then later my brother and I moved to the "city" here.
OK then, Make a choice and move! Unless you really just like to complain? This is America, it really is just as easy as walking away! It is also just as hard as walking away.

Seriously, unless you have some major family obligations, just pack up and move. I did just that when I graduated from HS. I loaded the trunk of my car with my clothes and tools before the graduation ceremony and "spit the scene" after the last classmate had received his "sheepskin". Well, OK, I did socialize for an hour afterward. I crossed the state line that night. It was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life!

I literally took four years to learn who and what I am. I traveled around the entire west coast of the "lower 48". I took part time and temporary jobs just so I could travel and not inconvenience my employers. I wanted to see my part of America so that I could decide where I wanted to live and how I wanted to live. My only regret is that I never gave the east coast much of a chance. I wish I had spent at least two more years seeing my country.

You can also choose to go wherever you want to live. It is doable. I can offer some advice if you want to do this. Let me know if that would help you.

I am familiar with the Portland of the 1970s and 1980s. The weather is wet all year long and in the summer it is hot and muggy. I visit friends and family in the Pacific Northwest fairly often. You need to get out of your comfort zone and explore that town. There is still great food to be had. Try to stay away from "trendy" places, you will often be disappointed in them. There is great Greek, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, and Mexican food to be had there today!

IHTH, 48.

PS if you just want to complain, I can not help you as I decided long ago to only complain about something if I thought my complaint would change the situation.
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...and don't get me started on all the Wesen! (since we're still in CS)
That's the deal breaker for me. It seems like you can't go out to buy a gallon of milk without getting eaten.
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Maybe the OP is trying reverse psychology. Hoping to keep others from moving there in order to keep Portland weird livable.

People have air conditioning. I don't remember the last time I was at someones place and they didn't have it. (Turning it on is another matter.)

Etc.

(TroutMan I would hardly call the area on SE 82nd a "new" Chinatown. There's been top notch Chinese restaurants around 82nd and Division since the 50s, that I know of.)
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If you are considering a move to Hawaii, it sucks alot more than Portland.

FYI, I hear good things about Calgary.
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(TroutMan I would hardly call the area on SE 82nd a "new" Chinatown. There's been top notch Chinese restaurants around 82nd and Division since the 50s, that I know of.)
True - I should have capitalized it as New Chinatown, which is its more-or-less official designation to distinguish it from the original one downtown. And it has probably been called that since the 1950s, for all I know.
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I have never been to Portland, and have absolutely no firsthand knowledge of the city.

That said, like my hometown of Austin, Portland is growing rapidly and a lot of people living thre now wish outsiders would stop moving in.

On a regular basis, people in Austin write articles like the OP's screed, in which they trash their own town in a futile attempt to get people to stop moving in.
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I thought you meant Portland, Maine a place I will never visit again, but Portland, Oregon now that's a very nice place full of good memories and nice ladies, but hey were all different they say.

especially in Portland, Oregon I heard a rumor that they are going to vote to legalize pot in Oregon this coming November.

That would cool you down, right?
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If you are considering a move to Hawaii, it sucks alot more than Portland.
I have not lived, or even been, in Portland.

Still, having lived in Hawaii, I can tell you there's a 90% chance your statement is true purely judging by the suckiness of Hawaii.
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Old 05-21-2014, 06:04 PM
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I have a friend who lives in Hawaii and she loves it. Milk is $10/gallon though.
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Now that it's trendy there are probably trendy and overpriced places to eat.
Of course there are, just like in any city with a food scene. There are also dives, food carts, pubs, etc. that make better food than full-on restaurants in some cities. I haven't been a chain restaurant eater for 20 years or more, so the absence of crappy steak houses and places like Applebee's doesn't bother me in the least. I'm sure these places exist around here somewhere, but I'd rather spend more money and have a memorable meal than eat mediocre food prepared by people who don't give a shit.
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Old 05-21-2014, 06:19 PM
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Maybe the OP is trying reverse psychology. Hoping to keep others from moving there in order to keep Portland weird livable.

People have air conditioning. I don't remember the last time I was at someones place and they didn't have it. (Turning it on is another matter.)
Nope, I really do hate this city. I plan to leave as soon as I can save a few grand. I think the person who said it has all the downsides of a major city and none of the culture described it perfectly. You get horrible traffic, too many people/noise, and a high cost of living and none of the good stuff like nightlife, being able to get around easily and job opportunities.

As for air conditioning, we have a window unit in the living room but my apartment's management won't allow me to install one in my room and we don't have central so basically I'm screwed.
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Old 05-21-2014, 11:25 PM
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I'm sure that our ideas of nightlife differ dramatically, but there are lots of film festivals, a jazz festival, Blues on the Waterfront, concerts, etc., year round in this city. If you can't afford them, then that's one thing, but they are there nonetheless. The pubs all seem to be jammed, particularly on the weekends.

I also don't know what you mean by culture. Portland has a thriving art community and many galleries. There are artists here that are known worldwide. There are endless venues for music, everything from symphonies to one-man gigs, and several jazz clubs, concerts in the parks, at the zoo, etc. There's also the Portland Art Museum which has rotating displays all through the year on loan from other museums.

Good luck finding somewhere else that suits you better. I've lived here, in Washington state, Alaska, Washington DC, Virginia, Southern California, Idaho and Massachusetts, and traveled a good number of the larger cities in this country. I've also lived overseas for many years. Portland compares favorably with most of them. From what you've said, I don't think you'll be happy anywhere.
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Portland is the only city I have ever been to that I need never visit again. Hated it. Lousy downtown filled with well off twenty year old meth addict panhandlers.
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Portland is the only city I have ever been to that I need never visit again. Hated it. Lousy downtown filled with well off twenty year old meth addict panhandlers.
You'd despise Olympia, then.

My personal experience with Portland is that it's more "hip" than Seattle, but not as "cool". Both are places that it's fun to visit and spend a night or a weekend in, but at the end of the trip I'm happy that I live in the mid-sized place that's just close enough to either of them that driving there doesn't feel like a big ordeal.
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You could move to Khartoum. Portland will seem like paradise after a day or two.
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