View Poll Results: How much do you like/hate/fear Drake?
I love Drake. He's the best. Drake 2016! 2 2.78%
I quite like Drake. 9 12.50%
Drake? 46 63.89%
I don't like Drake. 7 9.72%
I hate Drake like it's my job. 8 11.11%
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Old 05-06-2016, 06:37 PM
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What do you think about Drake?

So it turns out I've been living under a rock for about five years because I'd barely heard of this guy until he released his latest album last week. Now, full disclosure, I've not listened to the album. However, since a bunch of my friends were going loopy about it on Facebook, I decided to check out some of his earlier stuff on YouTube and...what the fuck? How is this even music? Listening to Hotline Bling made me feel like a drum machine had just taken a shit on my face. And that was the best one!

So yeah. I'm baffled by Drake. Then again, I'm an old fart and have been since I was about twelve, so what do I know? What do you think about him? If you like him, what's his appeal? Enquiring minds must know. Cheers.

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Old 05-06-2016, 06:55 PM
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I don't know how to answer this. I kind of have mixed feeling about Drake.

See, back when Hotline Bling was first released, I was dog/house sitting for a woman. She left very specific instructions that the radio was to be on at all times for the dogs. The station she left it on had Hotline Bling on very heavy rotation. As a result of visiting her house 3 times a day for 10 days, I must have heard that song at at least 20 times, maybe more. I grew to hate Drake over that period of time. I'd never even heard of him, but I hated him nonetheless. Ironically, by the end of the time, I knew all the words to the song. I still do, but I'm the only middle aged, white person I know who does and I have impressed some young people by knowing all the words. So that kind of gave me some street cred.

So like I said, mixed feelings.


(Plus, the video and all the spoofs for that song are hilarious!)

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Old 05-06-2016, 07:00 PM
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It's all production -- no actual music present, just like 95% of modern radio hits.
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Old 05-06-2016, 07:10 PM
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I liked his character on Degrassi: The Next Generation back when I watched the early seasons. I'm not sure I've ever heard any of his songs.
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Old 05-06-2016, 07:11 PM
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Don't worry about Drake, his stuff isn't aimed at you (or me). There's no need to make a thing about it - just makes you sound like someone's grandad objecting to, I dunno, that Bill Haley fella.
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Old 05-06-2016, 07:13 PM
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He'll always be Jimmy Brooks to me.

I like his music.
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Old 05-06-2016, 07:28 PM
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I go through music stages in my life in which I stick to one genre of music for several years. I had a hip hop period for many years and I "discovered" Drake very early on. I recognized that he had a unique style, significant talent and was a very clever lyricist. Anyway, I chose the first option, but that just may because I predicted early on that he would explode, and he did. If I discovered him later when he became mainstream, I might have chosen the 2nd.
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:33 PM
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Drake blew up my news feed, too, and I was confused. Must have been a slow news day.
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:39 PM
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He was pretty good on SNL, as I recall.
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:46 PM
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On his worst day, he has at least two Canadian artists who are more terrible.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:20 PM
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I opened the thread out of curiosity why someone would start a poll about Sir Francis Drake.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:41 PM
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All I know about Drake is that he is in everything that qualifies as pop music. Seriously, he's either featured or is the main artist in everything heard on the radio. Him and a few others.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:45 PM
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I mostly know him as a staple at Toronto Raptors games. I know that he's a rapper but, while I enjoy rap, I don't generally listen to the sort of stations that would play him. He killed Meek Mill on "Back to Back," though, so he's got that going for him.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:51 PM
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I enjoyed his deception, but haven't tried the new one.
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Old 05-07-2016, 12:00 AM
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A bit too bland for me, but I don't hate his music or anything.
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Old 05-07-2016, 12:19 AM
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I like his video that takes place in a Shoppers Drug Mart.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=RubBzkZzpUA
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Old 05-07-2016, 02:39 AM
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Since he grew his beard, many think he's hot now. So, there's that.
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Never heard of him before. Having listened to one of his songs...not my style.
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Old 05-07-2016, 02:48 AM
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I like his video that takes place in a Shoppers Drug Mart.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=RubBzkZzpUA

I'm really uncomfortable with him using the N word, frankly.

He's not from "The Hood". He's from a middle class family from Ontario.
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Old 05-07-2016, 03:41 AM
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I opened the thread out of curiosity why someone would start a poll about Sir Francis Drake.
That was my reaction too. We have a major thoroughfare and a bay in Marin County named after him. I visited that area just recently (Point Reyes), so that was the first thing that came to my mind.
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Old 05-07-2016, 09:32 AM
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What do I know about Drake?
I think Amanda Bynes had a thing for him when she was going through her mental illness phase?
I saw his picture once and mistaked him for David Blaine.
Never heard any of his music.
And that's about it.
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Old 05-07-2016, 09:59 AM
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So it turns out I've been living under a rock for about five years because I'd barely heard of this guy until he released his latest album last week. Now, full disclosure, I've not listened to the album. However, since a bunch of my friends were going loopy about it on Facebook, I decided to check out some of his earlier stuff on YouTube and...what the fuck? How is this even music? Listening to Hotline Bling made me feel like a drum machine had just taken a shit on my face. And that was the best one!

So yeah. I'm baffled by Drake. Then again, I'm an old fart and have been since I was about twelve, so what do I know? What do you think about him? If you like him, what's his appeal? Enquiring minds must know. Cheers.
Do you generally like hip hop or R&B? If not, don't worry about it. This isn't for you. It's like when classical music enthusiasts complained about Jazz in the 20, when Jazz enthusiasts complained about Rock and Roll in the 50s, etc etc.

If yes, what do you like? Can you be more specific about what it is about his music that doesn't work for you? If it's just drum machines, well, that's modern music for you.

I like Drake ok. He isn't the best (right now that's Kendrick Lamar. Like seriously), but I like him. I like his R&B less, it's sort of boring. Hotline Bling bored me to tears. But that's the way modern R&B is going. You didn't have an option that covered my feelings, so I voted that I quite liked him.
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Old 05-07-2016, 10:01 AM
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I'm a fan of his equations.
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Old 05-07-2016, 10:29 AM
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I thought you meant this Drake

http://imdb.com/title/tt0363328/

I think my son watched it a few times.
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No matter how insulated from pop culture you THINK you are...you've heard of "the motto"

...It took me awhile to not see him as "that wheelchair Degrassi kid" but I've always liked Drake's stuff.

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No matter how insulated from pop culture you THINK you are...you've heard of "the motto"
Nope
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I'm really uncomfortable with him using the N word, frankly.

He's not from "The Hood". He's from a middle class family from Ontario.
Yes, he didn't grow up poor, but he is a light skinned black/Jewish Torontonian. A multicultural reflexion of today's society, which gives him the "right" to draw (even racial slurs) from this heritage.
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Old 05-07-2016, 12:09 PM
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No matter how insulated from pop culture you THINK you are...you've heard of "the motto"

...It took me awhile to not see him as "that wheelchair Degrassi kid" but I've always liked Drake's stuff.
I'm not very insulated from pop culture and I have never heard that song.

Started from the Bottom, Hotline Bling, and being featured on other artists songs
are more pervasive in culture than it.
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Old 05-07-2016, 12:17 PM
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Drake doesn't even try to carry a tune. It's excruciating to listen to.
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Old 05-07-2016, 12:20 PM
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I'm not very insulated from pop culture and I have never heard that song.

Started from the Bottom, Hotline Bling, and being featured on other artists songs
are more pervasive in culture than it.
I guess I'm wrong, but as 'the motto' says: memento mori (MEMO!)


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Old 05-07-2016, 12:25 PM
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I enjoyed his deception, but haven't tried the new one.
Yeah, I think the movie got put on hold too.

Waiting to see what number 4 is all about as well.

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Old 05-07-2016, 01:42 PM
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Yes, he didn't grow up poor, but he is a light skinned black/Jewish Torontonian. A multicultural reflexion of today's society, which gives him the "right" to draw (even racial slurs) from this heritage.
It's not about his money or his race, but his cultural upbringing what baffles me- I mean that he didn't grow up in a world where the use of that particular racial slur was commonplace, so it feels like an ugly affectation coming from him.
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On his worst day, he has at least two Canadian artists who are more terrible.
Celine Dion and who?

I can think of a few but I'm wondering who is on your list.

As far as Drake goes I'm fucking sick of him. I don't especially like his music and he is constantly being talked about in Canadian radio and news services.

I don't like his stuff regardless of whether he is Drake, Drizzle, D. Izzle or any other iteration of his adopted name.
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He impresses me as the latest "big name" of whom I wouldn't be able to think of a single song he/she does. Big name everywhere from The Daily Show to the comics.
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Old 05-07-2016, 03:30 PM
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Celine Dion and who?



I can think of a few but I'm wondering who is on your list.

I would assume the Biebs, but that's just me.
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:01 PM
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Probably the weeknd's on that list too (another great singr).
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No matter how insulated from pop culture you THINK you are...you've heard of "the motto"

...It took me awhile to not see him as "that wheelchair Degrassi kid" but I've always liked Drake's stuff.
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I'm not very insulated from pop culture and I have never heard that song.
I've never heard of Drake or 'the motto'.

I've heard of Adele and 'Skyfall'.
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:04 PM
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It's not about his money or his race, but his cultural upbringing what baffles me- I mean that he didn't grow up in a world where the use of that particular racial slur was commonplace, so it feels like an ugly affectation coming from him.
That's a bit presumptuous, no? [emphasis' mine]
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(Plus, the video and all the spoofs for that song are hilarious!)
My favorite line from a parody I just watched:

This music sounds like when you're on hold
Waiting til some one picks up
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In the late 1980s I dated a guy named Drake. Tall, sandy-blond hair, blue eyes, wicked smart, owned his own tuxedo. Drove a VW bug up to the Yacht Club (his parents were members) and had it valet-parked, which was the most go-to-hell move I'd ever seen.

So you know him? No?

Oh. Then I don't know who you mean.
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That's a bit presumptuous, no? [emphasis' mine]
Sure, I wasn't there. Still, you have to make assumptions at some point or you'd never have an opinion on anything.
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Old 05-07-2016, 08:49 PM
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Celine Dion and who?

I can think of a few but I'm wondering who is on your list.

As far as Drake goes I'm fucking sick of him. I don't especially like his music and he is constantly being talked about in Canadian radio and news services.

I don't like his stuff regardless of whether he is Drake, Drizzle, D. Izzle or any other iteration of his adopted name.
Bieber and Nickelback, but feel free to substitute your own.

BTW, does the Weeknd ever get not slow and boring? I'm sure he's a great singer, it just doesn't seem very interesting from what I've heard, yet people seem to think his music is the best ever so I probably just haven't heard the right things.
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Old 05-08-2016, 12:52 AM
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Do you generally like hip hop or R&B? If not, don't worry about it. This isn't for you.
Yeah, see but it isn't really for me either. I try not to be a hip-hop snob or anything. So I'll try not to pigeonhole him as the pop rapper du jour, but to me Drake is just middle of the road pop-rap that's inoffensive without being particularly notable. Compared to a lot of guys who carried the torch as THE pop-rapper of the day, he's well above most of them, but that doesn't mean I like him or think he's good. He's OK.

I also acknowledge I am old. I am not THAT old. I am in my late 30s, and I can easily name half a dozen rappers in their FORTIES who out-rap Drake in 2016. But that's old for hip-hop and pop. So someone who had an 8 Track of "Rapper's Delight" (and remembers/bought the NEW cover version of that song/cover compilation CD that came out almost 20 years ago) and listened to Run DMC in elementary school, had every EPMD and Eric. B and Rakim cassette, remembers when herbs listened to MC Hammer, when it went from "cool" to not cool to like the Fresh Prince, went through a heavy Rawkus phase, remembers when Lil Wayne was a kid and (IMHO) sounded much better, remembers when Beyonce mispronounced Kanye's name on MTV, or when no one would sign Jay Z and later when he got clowned on for copying Puff Daddy, etc. - I am not supposed to listen to Drake, either.

And I'm cool with that. Drake might as well be Justin Beiber, but I'm assuming he's a little better. It's not a "hip hop" thing with me. It's a young kids pop thing.
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What do I think of Drake?

I hardly ever think about him at all. He's okay, I guess.

He had some pretty decent comedy chops for an adolescent on The Amanda Show, and he and Josh had a good chemistry that justified them getting their own sitcom. I'm happy for him that he gained a modicum of success, but he (or his agent) should have looked out for his interests a little better, and not been content with the one-note nature of his character. Josh's character actually developed some during the course of the series, and as a result, he managed to land a substantial spot on an episode of The Big Bang Theory.

Drake's big post-Drake and Josh project, OTOH, was a live-action/CGI made-for-TV Fairly Oddparents movie, which TBH, wasn't very good (as delightful as Cosmo and Wanda are).

Most distressing (to my daughter, anyway) is that he doesn't seem to want to do anything these days except hang out at Disneyland.

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I thought you meant this Drake

http://imdb.com/title/tt0363328/

I think my son watched it a few times.
That IS what the question What do you think about Drake? means.

Why? Is there another guy who's also called Drake?
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the equation would be the first thing to my mind.

I'm not a total shut-out from modern music, I could name you a Katy Perry and Lady gaga song, I know that people called Taylor Swift and Kanye West exist (though I couldn't name any of their hits)

But Drake? no. Not until this thread have I had any inkling of their existence.
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No matter how insulated from pop culture you THINK you are...you've heard of "the motto"
I was hoping that thing would say what the motto is, so I could evaluate whether I'd heard of it or not, but that link turned out to be just a music video, which I can't even hear because the sound on my tablet sucks.

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...It took me awhile to not see him as "that wheelchair Degrassi kid" but I've always liked Drake's stuff.
I think you spelled that wrong; it's DeGrasse. And I never heard of Neil DeGrasse Tyson being in a wheelchair.

Are you thinking of Stephen Hawking?

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Drake doesn't even try to carry a tune. It's excruciating to listen to.
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I'm not very insulated from pop culture and I have never heard that song.
If he's not trying to carry a tune, is it accurate to call it a "song?"
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I enjoyed Started from the Bottom, but since then all his raps have sounded pretty much the same to me.

Meanwhile tunes like Hotline Bling are more of a club style than rap. I don't see the appeal of this kind of song, even as something to dance to (too slow + flat), but I don't go to clubs any more, so I'm not in the target audience.
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