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Old 11-11-2001, 11:49 PM
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I was reading Roger Ebert's review of Shallow Hal, where he mentions that the character of Rosemarie weighs 'around 300 pounds'. This really stood out and made me think, because I'm pretty good at guessing weights and have known several people who weighed in the neighborhood of 300 lbs., and some bigger. The way the character of Rosemarie (Gwyneth Paltrow with a lot of prosthetics) is portrayed in the movie she would have to be well over 400 lbs., possibly closer to 500 if not bigger - she is unusually tall for a woman, and extremely obese. I knew a girl who weighed 375 who was quite a bit smaller. I'd guess that Camryn Manheim weighs close to 300 lbs., probably more - she IS 5'10", and looks about as thick as a girl I knew who was 5'7" and weighed 290.

I've noticed that a lot of people can't really guess weight well when someone starts weighing close to 200 lbs., probably because people don't talk about their weight much when they get that high. When asked to guess my weight, people frequently underestimate by 100 lbs. and ALWAYS underestimate by at least 50. They are thrown off because I am unusually tall (6'5"), but it's not just me - the friend I mentioned earlier who weighed 290 told me once that her then-boyfriend honestly believed she weighed 'around 200'. When I first met her I guessed she weighed around 240 and I'm usually pretty good about guessing weight. Women usually weigh more than they look - I knew a girl as a teenager that was almost universally considered very physically attractive (including by the 'no fat chicks' type), made your jaw drop in a good way in a bikini, and weighed just under 200. If a girl is over 5'10" and does not look anorexic, you can bet she weighs at least 150, and if she has any curves she's probably closer to 170. When they used to announce a contestant's weight and height in beauty pageants (do they still do that?) I used to crack up because there were frequently tall women who filled out their swimsuit well, yet I only remember one who they said was over 130.

Anyway, I was curious about how other people felt about our perceptions on body weight and what we considered normal, since it's apparent that there is a lot of variance in how people see things.
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Old 11-12-2001, 12:42 AM
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I would assume 300 lbs would be a lot more than me. I am also 6'5" and weigh around 200-210. I used to weigh myself a lot and I just stopped doing it. I know I used to weigh about 225. I felt bigger then. I judged my weight loss by the decrease in the waist size of pants I had to buy, slipping from 38 to 37 to 36.

I cover a lot of high school football games and I see kids who are listed at 300 lbs or over. And nearly all of them look obese. Few of them are the well-conditioned behemoths of college and pro football.

For the record, Gwyneth Paltrow is listed in the IMDB as being 5'9". A 5'9", 300 lb. woman would look enormous, as would a 5'9" man.
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A 5'9" 300 lb. woman would probably not look as 'fat' as a 5'9" 300 lb. man. Many big women have their weight distributed very differently than big men - they have it in the breasts, hips, and thighs. A man of those proportions is going to look like the Kool-Aid man. The 5'7" 290 lb. girl I mentioned had a distinctive hourglass-type shape (in that she was significantly smaller in the waist than she was in the hips and chest) and only had C cups.

As to my proportions - last time I went to the doctor I weighed around 315. I think I may have lost weight since then, but I'm still over 300 (not sure how much I weigh because my wife's digital scales give an error message if you weigh more than 300). I wear a 40" or 42" waist. When I weighed 280 I was wearing 38", and when I was at my lowest adult weight (app. 245 lbs.) a 36" waist was loose on me, and I continued being able to wear those 36" jeans until I was up to around 270. I am proportioned a bit unusually, though - I have very broad shoulders and a big chest, and I have short legs for my height (6'5" and a 34" inseam - I CANNOT wear 36").
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I have no idea how much I weigh now. (Other than I'm sure I'm not 300 lbs!) I'm a largish size 18, and I'd like to get down to a size 14. So I don't know how many pounds I should lose. But certainly more than a few.

I know that it is hard to guess the weight of some people. A friend of mine weighed over 200 lbs. (230? I can't remember) but she never really looked that "overweight". Just a bit solid, that's all. She loved fooling the people at amusement parks, who guess weight.

I'm one of those big hips/big breast types, and yeah, a lot of my weight is there. When I was sorta squeezing into a size 12 ("small" for me, and reasonably "normal-looking" to most everyone else) I believe I weighed about 185. And I'm 5'4". I think it is rather unusual for 5'4" who are wearing size 12 jeans to weigh that much, but I did. I doubt anyone would be able to guess!

I get frustrated when I am told I should weight 125 lbs. or less. I don't know how I'd lose that much. Unless I cut off my breasts! I think I'd be at a healthy weight at 165-185, but no less. So I don't take the weight charts seriously. How much can they really tell about a person, going by just their height alone?
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I get frustrated when I am told I should weight 125 lbs. or less. I don't know how I'd lose that much. Unless I cut off my breasts! I think I'd be at a healthy weight at 165-185, but no less. So I don't take the weight charts seriously. How much can they really tell about a person, going by just their height alone?
Please don't cut off your breasts!
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I knew a girl as a teenager that was almost universally considered very physically attractive (including by the 'no fat chicks' type), made your jaw drop in a good way in a bikini, and weighed just under 200.
I meant to mention that this girl was six feet tall, but when I edited that sentence to make it more clear I apparently took it out.
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I have a friend who weighed around 200 when I met her, and though she was plump I would not have described her as 'fat', nor would most men. She had been an exotic dancer but had put on weight since she quit. She's been on a diet and when she got down to 160 she was able to get a job dancing again. I'm not sure how tall she is, but she's not unusually tall, probably around 5'6", but she has a really nice figure.
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I thought this thread was going to be about a canary.

Do you know what a 300 lb. canary says?
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This guy weighs over 300 pounds. He's me.
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Old 11-12-2001, 09:50 AM
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I have a friend who weighed around 200 when I met her, and though she was plump I would not have described her as 'fat', nor would most men. She had been an exotic dancer but had put on weight since she quit. She's been on a diet and when she got down to 160 she was able to get a job dancing again. I'm not sure how tall she is, but she's not unusually tall, probably around 5'6", but she has a really nice figure.
Probably the reason she weighs what she does is because she has a lot of muscle on her. One time I was sitting in a restaurant and heard an overweight waitress commenting on her weight to another server. She weighed the same as I and I was nowhere near her in size. She would be considered somewhat overweight while I'd probably be considered plump by most people.
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I thought this thread was going to be about a canary.

Do you know what a 300 lb. canary says?
Anything he wants?
no, wait, that's gorillae...
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Women usually weigh more than they look
This is absolutely true. I'm 5'9" and very curvy, and people almost always underestimate my weight by 20 pounds or more.
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This guy weighs over 300 pounds. He's me.
Ditto.
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I think you're right, Badtz. People always underestimate my weight - for example, Mr. Seawitch thinks I weigh about 50(!) pounds less than I do. I'm about 5'8", and I have a lot of muscle mass - always have.

As a matter of fact, Mr. S. and I were looking at some old photos the other day - one shows me from far younger days, and I was painfully thin (no hips, every rib visible). He said, "Honey, don't worry about trying to get this thin again - you don't look healthy. I don't think you should get any lower than 125." He was stunned to hear that the photo was taken at 135.

If I got up to 300, I'd still be a lot smaller than Gwyneth was in the fat suit.
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6'9", 295# last I checked. And my inseam is about 35 or 36, or maybe I just sag my pants a little. Most people try to guess my height (7'2"? 6'5"?), but the few who guess my weight are usually either 30-40# light, or 20# heavy. Maybe it's the beer gut I've got going.
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My theory is that men estimate womens' weights based on years of Playboy centerfolds, who are always 5'9" to 6' and claim to weigh 111-125 pounds. Maybe some Playboy expert out there can go into his database and tell me who the heaviest Playboy centerfold ever was. Certainly it won't be over 128. Those women might even weigh that little; there's not much on them.

When I was a teenager and weighed around 155 or 160 we had a blood drive at work, and the guys I worked with (who were not trying to hit on me by saying this) assumed I couldn't donate blood because I must not weigh 110!

Muscle certainly does weigh more than fat. I often think about posting a picture of myself on the web with a "guess how much I weigh" contest.
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Just a WAG but I think a woman who is 5'9" and weighs about 300 would wear a size 26-28 in woman's sizes. I base this on my sister who is 5'9,weighs 175 and wears a size 14. She looks much better now than when she used to weigh 110.

Another sister is 5'5" weighs 250 and wears a size 20-22.When she wore a size 11-12 she weighed about 150.

I'm somewhere in the middle at 5'5" and a size 18-20.
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Old 11-12-2001, 08:27 PM
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This guy weighs over 300 pounds. He's me.
Ditto.
Dang it...the cute ones are always straight!

As for large/fat/obese folk... voila! C'est moi! I weigh around 460 lbs, but don't look quite that bad...I've had people guess me in the low- to mid-300's. It's fairly well distributed, to the point that except for my abdomen, I'm pretty proportional. I do, however, wear a 62 waist.

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I weighed 220 at my highest weight, and I'm 5'5". No one believed me when I told them that, though - they thought maybe I weighed 180. For me, the weight was very evenly distributed, though, and I wore clothes that didn't bring attention to the extra weight. I wore maybe a 18 up top and a 16 down below.

I am still very curvy, and I lift weights. People often guess me at 30 less than what I am. I've got a large frame (my wrist is huge). I'm still a 14 up top (some things just don't shrink on me, dammit), and wear an 8 or 10 in jeans, depending on brand and cut. I weigh 160ish.

And muscle is definitely more dense than fat. I actually weigh about 5 or 10 lbs more than I did a year ago (before I was started lifting weights regularly), but if I go by the tape measure, I'm a little smaller than a year ago, and my body fat % has gone down.

So I guess I think it's very tough to gauge weight accurately by looking at someone - too many variables come into play.
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I'm 5'5", and don't own a scale, so I have no idea how much I weighed 2 years ago when I wore a womens size 30, but it must have been way more than 300. Still quite a bit smaller than Gwyneth Paltrow's character. So far, I'm down to 230 (size 22-24), and the only reason I even know that much is because I have a new Dr. who insisted I get on the scale. I would like to be about a size 16-18, but that will probably take another couple years.
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I thought this thread was going to be about a canary.

Do you know what a 300 lb. canary says?
What does he say???
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Well, I haven't gotten on a scale in a while either, but here goes:

I (the picture is about 5 years old, and I was skinnier then, but whatever) weigh probably around 150 pounds, 5"3 1/2. (And yes, that half is important when you're my height!)

I wear size 14 in a good store. They don't make 16s, so I often just can't find pants in my size. I have often been told I look a lot lighter than I am, but I never believed it until last week, a saleslady insisted I should take a small skirt, when I ended up not even fitting into a large.

So make of that what you will. But I definitely think Gwyneth looked to be MUCH more than 300.
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Here is a pic of me from over a year ago, I weighed around 285-290 back then. The hispanic guy standing next to me weighed over 200.
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I believe Gwynneth is 5'7? I'm 5'8 and currently weigh 297. I wear a size 24.

This is a link to demo's SLO Dope pictures from July. I think I was probably about 304-310 at the time.

http://mindspring.com/~vincegonzales/slo.htm
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I believe Gwynneth is 5'7? I'm 5'8 and currently weigh 297. I wear a size 24.

This is a link to demo's SLO Dope pictures from July. I think I was probably about 304-310 at the time.

http://mindspring.com/~vincegonzales/slo.htm
There we have it. Proof that 300 lb. women aren't necessarily huge blobs of cellulite and can actually be attractive.
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Thanks for not making me regret posting that.

I've often wondered if the low guessers are just trying to be polite. From where I sit it's a hard thing to judge. People are cruel on a daily basis, and it makes me oversensitive and doubtful of the people who aren't. Just today at the gym I caught a woman with her face pressed up against a gap between the door and the wall, staring at me in the shower.

I think that proportion and muscle tone become greater factors the heavier you are. I am active as I can be (lift weights at the gym, walk 2-3 miles several days a week, some yoga), and have lost a significant amount of weight. I don't know exactly what my peak was, but I'm guessing it was 340-350. I know a woman who is my size, but she weighs about 40lbs less then I do, and she never exercises. In the long run, I think I'm better off.
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Dammit! My pix at the People Pages is still N/A...

I'm about 310 lbs., but no one ever guesses it because I am tall (6'4") and just generally big...

FWIW: I am probably about 50 or 60 lbs. overweight, but don't look it.


300 lbs. is not that big, IMO.
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Old 11-13-2001, 05:57 PM
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Thanks for not making me regret posting that.

I've often wondered if the low guessers are just trying to be polite.
I doubt they are. I often underestimate by as many as 30 pounds for petite women, and can be even farther off when it comes to bigger women. It is hard to guess another person's weight, and since so many people (especially celebrities) claim that they weigh less than they really do it's easy to underestimate.
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Me, at a family reunion for my parents' 50th anniversary party four years ago. Had to be about 260 at the time. I had lost some 40 pounds since our previous reunion in '93, unfortunatly they returned with reinforcements.

I could add some '93 pics to my site if anyone's interested.
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I could have worded that a little better. I meant so say that I gained the 40+ pounds back between '97 and now, not betweene '93 and '97.
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I am very far from 300 pounds. I am around 150. It is by far the heaviest I have ever been in my life.

Prior to children, I worked out ( because I liked working out, not to fit into a dress size) rode my bike 15 miles a night and swam about 5 miles a week.


Now I have niehter the energy or time for working out. Moeny is a bit of an issue too.


YOU KNOW WHAT? ....I have never felt sexier and I have never been as healthy as I am right now.

If my IQ matched my weight, WHOOOOO BOY!
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I'm 6'2" and weigh 250, and "Rosemary" in "Shallow Hal" was twice my size. At least.

And I'll throw a big ditto on the weird way women underreport their weight. I dated a girl who was 5'9", 165, and she had a body like a Playboy centerfold. Another ex was 5'7", 145, with an even better body. My sister's stick-thin at 5'9" but weighs 130. So I would assume many Playboy centerfolds are likely closer to 165 than the 115 they claim.
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As a tall woman, 5-9, I can tell you people have no sense of what average people weigh. I weigh 145 and wear an 8 or 10. No curves at all on me! (Well, a couple.) But anyway, my point is people assume I must wear a size 2 and weigh about 110 pounds soaking wet. Here I am (but it's only a mug shot!)
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I think it's just hard for people to estimate weight, period. I don't think it's a matter of being kind -- it's just hard to look at someone and tell accurately what they weigh.

F'rexample, I'm about 6'5" and around 240 lb. People guessing my weight usually guess around 200 -- if I weighed 200 pounds, I'd look like a pipe cleaner with a head!

http://geocities.com/jackrandom23/me1.jpg

I'm also bad at guessing weight myself. A friend's wife is about 5'2" and very overweight. One day, her husband told me she tipped the scales at over 300 -- I would have thought more like 200. I've also dated girls that I would have pegged at around 140 or 150 that I later found out were more like 170 or 180. That just goes to show that weight isn't an indicator of attractiveness; I thought these girls were absolute knockouts, and frankly their weight didn't make any difference to me.
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So I would assume many Playboy centerfolds are likely closer to 165 than the 115 they claim.
Just more info backing this up...

I'm 5'2" and I weigh just over 115. I wear XS in shirts and 2 in pants. 115, my ass.
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From what I've seen in the previews the 'fat' Gwen in Shallow Hal looks more like the 450 to 550 range. Actually I don't think she would be as active in the film as a real person that big. How much did the woman in Gilbert Grape weigh?
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Yeah, I weigh 400 pounds, and when they say the shallow Hal girl was 300, I said "no fucking way" I'm glad I'm not the only one.

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Females naturally weigh more than males of the same height.

It's scientifically proven, and weight charts that you see online are never right. I'm between 5'9" and 5'10", and, when this picture was taken, I was around 210# and wore a size 16/size 38(mens' pants). I don't have a current picture of myself, but I now weigh around 190 or possibly less and the only difference is a little less stomach and more muscular legs. Most people assume I don't weigh more than 150#, and the same people also don't know of that important little fact at top. I know that even 160# with the huge body frame I've got would make me look emaciated, and that I often get rejected at blood drives for not having a high enough iron count... it's not due to a lack of meat in my diet, it's the fact that I have to eat more than the recommended daily serving to keep my body supplied with iron. Oh well, I know I'm still sexy. (I promise I'll get a more recent picture up soon...)
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I just want to know how Badtz Maru knows how much all these people weigh. What, do you carry a scale around with you? "How 'bout them Steelers? Think they might go all the way? Hey, mind hoping on this for me real quick?"
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For some reason people, especially women, feel very comfortable opening up to me about just about everything. A few times I just flat-out asked how much people weighed, most of the time it was volunteered during discussions about guessing weight.
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I'm about 5'11", and I'm not sure how much I weigh but it must be over 200 pounds - I ain't skinny. I haven't seen the movie and doubt I will, but I've seen clips on TV, and you could easily fit two of me inside the "fat Rosemary".

Oh, and incidentally: the 300 pound canary says <basso profundo>"HERE KITTY KITTY KITTY!"</basso profundo>
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You have to realize how much weight the movie and TV cameras add to your appearence. Some people look big on the screen but are much smaller in person.
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I'm male, 6'0" and around 210-220, but I don't look it. I have big Celtic legs and skinny arms which tends to throw people off, especially if I'm not wearing shorts. A friend of mine once said, "Your calves are bigger than your thighs dude", to which I replied, "Uh, bigger than yours maybe."
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People tend to overestimate your weight after you've lost a lot, too. I went from 155 pounds to 100, and most people assume that I weigh about 120 (I wear a size 0). Any ideas why?
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From what I've seen in the previews the 'fat' Gwen in Shallow Hal looks more like the 450 to 550 range. Actually I don't think she would be as active in the film as a real person that big. How much did the woman in Gilbert Grape weigh?
IMDb says Darlene Cates weights 500 pounds.
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I agree scales are not a good measure of healthy weight. I see those models weighing around 115 pounds and I wonder. I am 5'2" and weight 126 lbs! and yet I am a size 5, I guess I have a higher percentage of muscle. If I was 115, even at my 5'2" I would look like a stick figure.
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I was one of those blessed/cursed with a very large frame, and have always been able to carry weight well. When I was a young lass, I had a *ahem* small drug habit, and subsequently lost a tremendous amount of weight (I'd had always been a fat kid). I got to the point of when my ribcage was showing, I actually weighed in at 145. My ideal weight for my frame and height is somewhere around 170, where I fit rather comfortably in a size 12. I'm weighing in at the moment at 235, but most guess I'm about 200.

Those models weighing in at 5'10" and 125? Yeah, right.
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I'm 5'8" and I weigh about 110 lbs. I have to agree that the women in "those" magazines are probably closer to 150 lbs. This is completely unhelpful. I just felt like sharing.
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'5"6 and about 155. I wear size 12 jeans and small or smallish medium tops. Actually, I think I could stand to lose maybe ten pounds, but a few years back I got down to 125. Mr zoogirl and I had been living in another province while I lost the weight, and when we came back my mom just about had a fit! You could see all my ribs. I looked WAY too thin. I'm another one with big bones. My wrists won't fit some bracelets and my hands are bigger than a lot of men's. I tend to carry weight in my legs and hips, so in a good skirt I look quite thin. I got pretty close to 200 about three years ago and no one believed me. I'm not trying to be obnoxious or anything, just point out another example of how hard it is to guess weight. I suspect (and hope!) that my bones are of exceptional thickness. Since Mom had very severe osteoporosis this would be very good. It does tend to run in families. I read in Readers Digest this summer of a woman who is in great shape according to medical tests but she is over 160 and looks a bit plump. She has a healthy cardio-vascular systeym and rides a bike, does weights etc. at a level comparable to a much lighter person. I have also heard that being underweight can be as damaging as obesity. A certian level of body fat is actually necsasary to be healthy.
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Old 11-17-2001, 02:51 AM
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I would wager that those Playboy models are lying. I'm 5'10", and my adult weight has fluctuated between 125 and 200 lbs. At 125 I was emaciated, all bones, no curves at all. 175-180lbs looks best on me, even though I'd never admit it if I wasn't behind the anonymity of a screen name. Chalk that up to insecurity, but it sounds too heavy.
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