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wisernow
01-09-2005, 07:49 PM
Can someone tell me how Mein Kamph(Mein Kamf) is prnounced? I have been getting different pronunciations.

Thanks.

x-ray vision
01-09-2005, 07:53 PM
Mein Kampf: (mīn kämpf')

WhyNot
01-09-2005, 07:57 PM
The general rule in German is, if you have two vowels next to each other in the middle of the word, you ignore the first and pronounce the long vowel of the second. So, forget the e and say the "i" as the sound "eye"

Mine

The vowel in the second words sounds like the o in "hot". It's the "ahh" sound. Sorta. It's a little darker and more in the back of the throat for an American speaker. But "ah" won't get you laughed at. The K is hard, of course, and you pronounce all the m, the p and the f. I can't think of a word in English that has this combo. "mp" like in "lamp" is easy for us. The f just sort of trails after you release the lips from the "p"

Kahmpf

aruvqan
01-09-2005, 08:20 PM
OK, so if you pronounce the second letter, why does my german friend call they oyros [euro] and oyla [eula, end user licensing agreement]?

how does one pronounce the german alphabet? I know that the english and canadians[some of them] say zed for what us americans call zee.

I really shuld take german if I am going to persist in having german friends and visiting them in germany...but everybody I have run into over there speaks english, and are so very nice to converse in english :(

Sunspace
01-09-2005, 08:39 PM
When I was taking German in high school, we pronounced 'eu' as 'oy': 'Euler' was pronounced 'Oyler'. It was just one of those things we had to accept.

kellner
01-09-2005, 09:19 PM
"Mine kahmpf" is correct. If you want to be extra precise, don't make the "i" or the "ah" too long. The "ah" should be close to "cut"
OK, so if you pronounce the second letter, why does my german friend call they oyros [euro] and oyla [eula, end user licensing agreement]?That rule doesn't cover all combinations (and it only works from an English perspective) The diphthongs in German are:

au - ow (as in "now")
eu, äu - oy
ei (rarely: ay, ey, ai) - eye

vowel combination that is not a diphthong:

ie - long ee (as in "seen")

how does one pronounce the german alphabet? I know that the english and canadians[some of them] say zed for what us americans call zee.
More or less like that:

ah (as in "Kampf", but slightly longer)
beh (the long e doesn't exist in standard English. Think french "café". "ay" is close, but it should be a single vowel without any glide)
tseh
deh
eh
eff
geh (hard g)
hah
ee
yott
kah
ell
emm
enn
oh
peh
koo
err (the e is as in error, "r" in German is a complicated issue, almost everything except the most common English "r" can be found)
ess (same short e)
teh
oo
fow
veh
icks
üpsilonn (like the umlaut ü, form an "oo" with your mouth, but an "ee" with your tongue)
tsett

When I was taking German in high school, we pronounced 'eu' as 'oy': 'Euler' was pronounced 'Oyler'. It was just one of those things we had to accept.Yes, he was from the German-speaking part of Switzerland. Oh, and we really call Euclid "Oyclid".

Gary T
01-09-2005, 09:26 PM
The general rule in German is, if you have two vowels next to each other in the middle of the word, you ignore the first and pronounce the long vowel of the second.
No, no, no. You can use this approach with "EI" (sounds like English letter "i" in hi) or "IE" (sounds like English letter "e" in me), but it does not apply otherwise. It is not a general rule at all.
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As mentioned, "mein" is pronounced like the English "mine." The "a" in "kampf" is pronounced like the "a" in the the English word "father" (as is "a" in any German word).

feppytweed
01-09-2005, 09:48 PM
mine camf. ca as in car.

Bambi Hassenpfeffer
01-09-2005, 10:12 PM
Non-native speaker, but here you go: the alphabet (http://geocities.com/bambihassenpfeffer/alphabet.wav) and my struggle (http://geocities.com/bambihassenpfeffer/meinkampf.wav). Poor sound quality, so it cuts the C off a little, but it is supposed to be a hard TS- sound. Natives, feel free to point out how bad it is.

kellner
01-09-2005, 10:24 PM
Non-native speaker, but here you go: the alphabet (http://geocities.com/bambihassenpfeffer/alphabet.wav) and my struggle (http://geocities.com/bambihassenpfeffer/meinkampf.wav). Poor sound quality, so it cuts the C off a little, but it is supposed to be a hard TS- sound. Natives, feel free to point out how bad it is.
Sounds good.

Early Out
01-10-2005, 04:48 AM
Here's an online German/English dictionary (http://dict.leo.org/?lang=en&lp=ende&search=) that includes pronunciation sounds samples. Plug in the German word you're looking for, search, then click on the little speaker symbol next to the word or phrase (English on the left, German on the right).

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