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wolfman
08-12-2005, 09:46 PM
More ignorance fighting needed.
I havn't seen it for a while, But James bond's fake last name in A View to a kill is always said as 'Sinjin Smythe". But later Walken looks him up on a computer and his name comes up as 'Saint John Smith'(I think, but I havn't seen in in a while it could be 'St. John')

That's one I never ran across before. Is Saint(or St.) John commonly called sinjin? Is it just a variation that some families with the name use? Are other Saint names similarly contracted? is Susan St. James called 'Susan Sinjum' over there?

Sarah Woodruff
08-12-2005, 09:50 PM
There's a character in Jane Eyre with the name of St James, and my English Lit lecturer, and every adaptation I've seen of the novel, called him "Sinjin".

ouryL
08-12-2005, 09:50 PM
More ignorance fighting needed.
I havn't seen it for a while, But James bond's fake last name in A View to a kill is always said as 'Sinjin Smythe". But later Walken looks him up on a computer and his name comes up as 'Saint John Smith'(I think, but I havn't seen in in a while it could be 'St. John')

That's one I never ran across before. Is Saint(or St.) John commonly called sinjin? Is it just a variation that some families with the name use? Are other Saint names similarly contracted? is Susan St. James called 'Susan Sinjum' over there?

This was also a joke. St. John Smythe was a well-known pseudonym for the Saint. :p

Sarah Woodruff
08-12-2005, 09:51 PM
There's a character in Jane Eyre with the name of St James, and my English Lit lecturer, and every adaptation I've seen of the novel, called him "Sinjin".
:smack: Actually it was St John - so "Sinjun."

GorillaMan
08-12-2005, 10:06 PM
Yep, "St John" as a surname is pronounced that way. The confusion this causes also crops up in Four Weddings and a Funeral (the name's uncommon enough cause many Brits problems, too).

Iguana Boy
08-12-2005, 10:35 PM
And don't forget St. John (Sinjin) Hawke (Stringfellow's brother) from Airwolf!

Not as classy as Jane Eyre, I know. Sorry....

RealityChuck
08-12-2005, 11:00 PM
Not to mention St. John Quincy from OK Crackerby (http://imdb.com/title/tt0058834/) (pronounced "sinjin quinzy").

Cunctator
08-13-2005, 03:16 AM
And Norman St John-Stevas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_St_John-Stevas,_Baron_St_John_of_Fawsley) (ennobled as Baron St John of Fawsley), the well-known British author, barrister and member of Parliament.

irishgirl
08-13-2005, 05:08 AM
It's one of those names like Featherstonehaugh (Fanshaw) or Cholmondeley (Chumley).

Just say Sinjun and don't worry about it.

seosamh
08-13-2005, 05:48 AM
Same sort of thing - when she was a young girl in Co. Laois (Ireland) in the 1930's, my mother knew an Anglo woman whose name was St Leger - pronounced "Sellinjer".

Cugel
08-13-2005, 07:35 AM
St. John Polevaulter (http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Scripts/TheContradictionSketch)

Bytegeist
08-13-2005, 02:11 PM
It's one of those names like Featherstonehaugh (Fanshaw) or Cholmondeley (Chumley).

Or, "Alexander Luxury Yacht".

Staggerlee
08-15-2005, 05:06 AM
It's one of those names like Featherstonehaugh (Fanshaw) or Cholmondeley (Chumley).

Just say Sinjun and don't worry about it.
These could be said to be examples of a 'shibboleth', the correct pronunciation of which confers a higher class status on the user.

av8rmike
08-15-2005, 09:39 AM
Or, "Alexander Luxury Yacht".
Raymond Luxury Yacht?

Bytegeist
08-15-2005, 10:03 AM
Raymond Luxury Yacht?
Damn, you're right, now that I check it. Don't know why I remembered "Alexander".

Thanks.

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