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crypto
03-02-2010, 09:35 PM
Has anyone suffered from mole infestation (in the yard) and successfully been able to rid themselves of the annoying little rodents?

I know cutting the food supply is the best approach, and killing grubs is fine by me, but I've been unsuccessful in killing grubs with commercial products like Grub-ex.

I would love to hear of your experiences with them, what worked, what didn't work, and how you were finally able to rid your yard of the destructive mole?

SFP (Death to Moles!)

Inigo Montoya
03-02-2010, 09:48 PM
Stomp down all the mounds in your yard and get in the car.

Go to your favorite old-man's hardware store and get yourself a can of calcium carbide.

Next day, take the dirt off of any new mounds to expose the opening of the burrows.

Pour in about 1/2 cup of the calcium carbide rocks, pour a bucket of water into the burrow. The rocks will start to smoke (acetylene I think), cover the hole with a brick or something that will make a reasonably tight seal. Repeat with each burrow opening.

This will work until a new population of moles moves into your yard, but that usually takes about 6 months to a year.

freckafree
03-02-2010, 09:56 PM
Has anyone suffered from mole infestation (in the yard) and successfully been able to rid themselves of the annoying little rodents?

I know cutting the food supply is the best approach, and killing grubs is fine by me, but I've been unsuccessful in killing grubs with commercial products like Grub-ex.

I would love to hear of your experiences with them, what worked, what didn't work, and how you were finally able to rid your yard of the destructive mole?

SFP (Death to Moles!)

The biggest part of moles' diets is earthworms anyway, so killing grubs won't kill their food supply, and you don't want to kill earthworms, because they are part of a healthy lawn's ecosystem.

WarmNPrickly
03-02-2010, 10:01 PM
Where do you get calcium carbide at the hardware store?

kevlaw
03-02-2010, 10:07 PM
There's only one way to get rid of a mole (http://youtube.com/watch?v=E8bWl37EwDA).

crypto
03-02-2010, 10:15 PM
Where do you get calcium carbide at the hardware store?

My question too.

Inigo Montoya
03-02-2010, 10:25 PM
Where do you get calcium carbide at the hardware store?I used to get it here (http://mclendons.com/renton/index.asp).

Haven't had to get any in a lot of years. Could be the pansy politicians have made it illegal?

WarmNPrickly
03-02-2010, 10:41 PM
What was it used for? Was getting rid of moles the official use? I'd love to get a chunk of that stuff to play with.

billfish678
03-02-2010, 10:47 PM
What was it used for? Was getting rid of moles the official use? I'd love to get a chunk of that stuff to play with.

Calcium carbide is what you used in old time miners/cavers headlamps.

Pretty cool stuff. You put water on rocks and you get acetalyne gas out it.

Army/Navy surplus stores used to carry it pretty regularly as well. If you REALLY are desperate, some caver equipment suppliers can still get it for you.

Harmonious Discord
03-02-2010, 10:51 PM
Calcium carbide is what you used in old time miners/cavers headlamps.

Pretty cool stuff. You put water on rocks and you get acetalyne gas out it.

Army/Navy surplus stores used to carry it pretty regularly as well. If you REALLY are desperate, some caver equipment suppliers can still get it for you.

It used to be what the early cars used for headlamps too. Acetylene headlamps

Ionizer
03-02-2010, 11:03 PM
Moles are VERY fast at plugging/sealing their burrow when a threat is sensed. I tried some of the 'smoke bomb sticks' and got a few kills each time out of each 10-15 attempts (I think) but my success was not all that great relative to the efforts. My moles were the type that made the mounds above where they dug their 'den', and no 'runs'/tunnels were visible. The mound is usually kind of fan shaped and its not hard to figure out where the 'hole' was when they were excavating.

I had best success with using a largish spoon to carefully hand-dig out the plug until I hit the open space (usually around elbow deep) and I then dropped in that Zinc(?) stuff (iirc, comes in a conical/yellow plastic container with smallish pellets of the product. Forget the actual name, but it is common. You *must* close up the hole carefully to be light-tight or the moles move elsewhere and dig another den. I used a sheet of paper (junk mail, actually) over the hole with dirt across it, fwiw.

For the moles that do their tunneling just barely sub-surface, I have had good luck with using a small diameter poker (pencil works) and poking a little hole into a 'run' then dropping in a few dozen pellets and covering afterwards without disturbing the run. To find an active run, I barely mash down parts of the tunnel roofs with my feet and after the mole pushes it back up (from reuse/repair of tunnel, usually within 24 hours, IME), that is where I drop the poison pellets. And pray to the dead-mole God fervently.

I just noticed this Spring's first mole-signs this morning, so I need to get busy. I almost forgot to mention that the mole repellent stuff (stinky fluid moles detest, think its castor oil?) is not too bad to use for small yards, especially if your purpose is to keep 'em away from certain areas.

WarmNPrickly
03-02-2010, 11:39 PM
Calcium carbide is what you used in old time miners/cavers headlamps.

Pretty cool stuff. You put water on rocks and you get acetalyne gas out it.

Army/Navy surplus stores used to carry it pretty regularly as well. If you REALLY are desperate, some caver equipment suppliers can still get it for you.
Do hardware stores carry spelunking equipment? I know how it was used, I just had no idea what hardware stores would carry it for. Are carbide lamps even being made these days?

Moonshiner
03-03-2010, 07:07 AM
Gruesome, but effective (http://victorpest.com/store/mole-and-gopher-control/b0645-2).

LSLGuy
03-03-2010, 07:34 AM
Prior mole threads: http://boards.academicpursuits.us/sdmb/showthread.php?t=535235, http://boards.academicpursuits.us/sdmb/showthread.php?t=516741

There are a bunch more older than these; I got tired of picking the mole = animal threads out from the mole = skin defect threads after 6 pages.

horsetech
03-03-2010, 08:14 AM
There's always the vacuum truck (http://edition.cnn.com/EARTH/9612/16/sucking.dogs/index.html) method for dealing with subterranean mammals.

For more entertainment (long), I recommend How to kill evil Nazi Groundhogs (http://boards.academicpursuits.us/sdmb/showthread.php?t=15906&highlight=nazi+groundhogs). Do not read while attempting to consume beverages.

Kansas Beekeeper
03-03-2010, 09:11 AM
This looks like fun:

http://rodenator.com/environmentally-friendly-pest-control-rodent-extermination

Trom
03-03-2010, 09:19 AM
My dad would use those "stabby spike" traps like above. Also, sticks of Juicy Fruit (http://safepestremoval.com/archives/71) placed in their holes.

billfish678
03-03-2010, 09:30 AM
Do hardware stores carry spelunking equipment? I know how it was used, I just had no idea what hardware stores would carry it for. Are carbide lamps even being made these days?

A modern one like Lowe's or Home Despot? No.

An old style Hardware store that carries just about anything that isnt food, you might find it/them there.

Keep in mind that carbide cap lamps are a very nice way to produce light, even for non spelunking purposes. I imagine coon hunters for one used them for night hunts not so very long ago. The light they give off is much "nicer" and less of a hassle than candles or oil lamps. They were probably better and cheaper in some ways than battery operated lights not so long ago either.

If you do an internet search for carbide lights or cap lamps or miners lamps you can probably find em somewhere.

Freddy the Pig
03-03-2010, 10:51 AM
. . . the annoying little rodents?Moles are insectivores.

Turble
03-03-2010, 11:45 AM
/sigh

I was so happy, sitting here watching the snow melt ... did you have to remind of what I'm gonna see under there?

The first thread LSLGuy linked to was mine ... see lots of my failed methods there ... like, killing the grubs means the moles have to travel farther to find enough worms to eat, therefore, more and longer tunnels ... I dream of the Rodenator (http://rodenator.com/rodenator-meyer-industries-idaho).

crypto
03-06-2010, 07:16 PM
/sigh

I was so happy, sitting here watching the snow melt ... did you have to remind of what I'm gonna see under there?

The first thread LSLGuy linked to was mine ... see lots of my failed methods there ... like, killing the grubs means the moles have to travel farther to find enough worms to eat, therefore, more and longer tunnels ... I dream of the Rodenator (http://rodenator.com/rodenator-meyer-industries-idaho).

sorry to bum you out. This is exactly what happened to me. The snow melted, and I had paths criss-crossing my entire front yard. Those little bastards. The yard looks bad enough without the mole damage, but with it, it looks horrid. Depressing.

Kansas Beekeeper
03-06-2010, 11:14 PM
Calcium carbide is what you used in old time miners/cavers headlamps.

Pretty cool stuff. You put water on rocks and you get acetalyne gas out it.

Army/Navy surplus stores used to carry it pretty regularly as well. If you REALLY are desperate, some caver equipment suppliers can still get it for you.

What does acetylene do to moles? It's flammable to the point of being explosive, but not toxic. If it's just to suffocate them, propane would be cheaper and easier.

Ruken
03-07-2010, 09:29 AM
A tungsten telephone pole dropped from orbit should take them out.
Rods from God (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment)

My folks recently got rid of a gopher by flooding it's tunnels with a hose. It was relocated.

Peter Morris
03-07-2010, 10:08 AM
Jasper Carrott explains how. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=fePU5CIHpas)

Inigo Montoya
03-08-2010, 09:22 AM
What does acetylene do to moles? It's flammable to the point of being explosive, but not toxic. If it's just to suffocate them, propane would be cheaper and easier.Well, we never lit it. Which is odd because On more than one occasion I remember wondering. "Hm, what gas is that and is it flammable? Like would it help kill the moles even more if I lit it?" God looks after fools, I guess.

If it's not toxic then it must just suffocate them. We tried pinch traps and "gopher getter" smoke bombs, stuff with the express purpose of eliminating the denizens of Underyard, but none come close to being as effective as the old calcium carbide & water trick. Probably because it was so fun to do (what kid can resist pouring water on something and watch the resulting bubbles & smoke?) that I'd do it fairly regularly just for something to do.

GreasyJack
03-08-2010, 11:41 AM
A zany co-worker of mine supposedly used to kill gophers by pumping exhaust into their holes, but it stopped working after he bought a newer pollution-controlled truck.

dragonlady
03-08-2010, 05:44 PM
Get a dachshund or jack russell terrier. I had one of each and they could kill 3-4 a day.
They would walk around the yard and stop, cock their head to one side, wait, and then dig like mad. They seldom missed. One good shake and it was over.

notfrommensa
03-08-2010, 10:51 PM
I echo what dragonlady posted. I used to know a guy who leased out his Jack Russell for mole extermination.

I once had a cat that would bring home dead moles. They didn't come from our yard.

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