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crypto
10-06-2011, 01:28 AM
This is a serious question, and I've always wanted to ask it. I find that the folks on this board are generally honest and thoughtful when asked a question about their sexuality, as long as the question is asked in a respectful manner. Please know I am not fishing for one liners here, or playing dumb.

I am going to assume that most of you knew your sexual preference by the time you hit puberty. So, in situations where group showers were required, such as a high school gym class, how did you stop yourself from becoming aroused?

I know you are not attracted to every guy you see, but I imagine the law of averages would mean that there was at least one or two fellows that would arouse you sexually, especially at this time in your life when hormones are raging and you can get an erection with very little effort. I ask this because I don't think that if I were in a situation where I had to shower with all the girls in my gym class that I'd be able to maintain control. There are simply not enough baseball stats in the world for this impossible mental blocking exercise. So, how did you do it? Or did you occasionally become aroused and people noticed?

Some background - this question came up while I was watching a "don't ask, don't tell" documentary, where one of the concerns by those against gays in the military was the need to take group showers with your platoon.

Thanks in advance for your replies

MichaelEmouse
10-06-2011, 02:11 AM
I'm not gay but I have taken group showers when I was in the reserve and I had the same question.

I presume that fear of being outed and very likely severely beaten up would help control this issue.


I also remember thinking that, for a gay sub, boot camp is the best summer vacation ever.

Foggy
10-06-2011, 02:32 AM
Fear, pure unadulterated fear.

I wasn't that certain about myself. I was naive and didn't really understand my feelings and I thought of myself as a pervert and despised myself. That will pretty much keep you from having an erection. This was in the mid 70's.

BTW: My mother had told me that homosexuals raped women because they hated them. So not only was I afraid that I was going to attack children, but women also.

jackdavinci
10-06-2011, 02:50 AM
The same way you stopped yourself from getting a boner when seeing a really hot girl. Granted, full on nudity is more of a challenge, and also makes it harder to hide, but it's merely a matter of degree.

We didn't actually have showers, but there was plenty to look at just from changing clothes. If I started chubbing, I would just force myself to keep my eyes to myself and think of math.

It wasn't too hard to stop from getting a boner, but if I let myself get one while sitting, it was difficult to make it go away when it was time to get up. And that's what strategically placed trapper keepers were for.

crypto
10-06-2011, 03:49 AM
And that's what strategically placed trapper keepers were for.

OK. I'll ask. What is a trapper keeper?

Attack from the 3rd dimension
10-06-2011, 04:51 AM
OK. I'll ask. What is a trapper keeper?

It's a complicated kind of underwear worn by masochists.

-rereads OP-

OK, that's a lie. It's a kind of looseleaf binder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trapper_Keeper) you'd carry in school, sometimes in front of your crotch.

Illuminatiprimus
10-06-2011, 05:23 AM
Hmmmmm - tricky. I can't give you a precise answer because I'm not sure. I suppose my arousal instinct is just pretty well suppressed because I'm capable of looking at a hot guy naked showering nearby and not get hard. Frequently when showering with others I'm also pretty busy getting clean and thinking about what I'm doing afterwards. If I want to look at hot men doing fun things I'll watch porn in the privacy of my own home where masturbating isn't likely to get me arrested.

I'm not AFRAID of getting hard, but I'm very aware that I shouldn't, maybe that's what's stopping me.

panache45
10-06-2011, 05:30 AM
Not only did we have to take showers after gym, but we also had to swim naked. In all those years I only saw one guy with an erection, and he was showing it off in the locker room. I honestly don't know why I never responded that way, but I guess "fear" is as good an answer as any. This was back in the late '50s and early '60s, and it was definitely not cool to be gay. I became very good at hiding my feelings, and my subconscious must have worked overtime to keep me from responding that way.

Inner Stickler
10-06-2011, 05:55 AM
Strategically placed potted plants, always standing behind the couch and loosefitting clothes. Wait, that's not right. When I was in high school, there were no group showers after gym but it was the last class of the day so I assume everyone went home and showered or went to sports practice and then showered at home as well. The few instances I've been in a group shower have been at swimming pools and I was either too young for it to be an issue or not really paying attention. I'm there to shower, not to ogle. That's for sitting on the side of the pool.

uuaschbaer
10-06-2011, 06:52 AM
I suspect it's the absence of sexual tension. Showering with gay guys might make things different.

boytyperanma
10-06-2011, 07:33 AM
I don't sexualize ever man I see even if they are naked. I've never had issue keeping my own dick limp when all the other ones around me are limp too. I suppose I'd bone up if I was surrounded by other men with hard on's but that's not the situation in most locker rooms.

Also in my case I have difficulty maintaining an erection when I'm wet, sex in a shower or hot tub are right out for me even if all other factors are ideal.

Happy Lendervedder
10-06-2011, 08:01 AM
I have to admire you guys' mind-over-penis, although I'm sorry that fear was such a part of it. As a straight man, I really don't know if I could shower naked with a handful of naked women and be as "controlled" with my penis. I'm a happily married man with no desire to cheat on my wife, and even assuming these women would have no interest in me sexually whatsoever, I'm not sure I'd be able to keep the boner away. Call it a reflex or instinct, but I don't think I'd be able to control it.

Attack from the 3rd dimension
10-06-2011, 08:29 AM
I have to admire you guys' mind-over-penis, although I'm sorry that fear was such a part of it. As a straight man, I really don't know if I could shower naked with a handful of naked women and be as "controlled" with my penis. I'm a happily married man with no desire to cheat on my wife, and even assuming these women would have no interest in me sexually whatsoever, I'm not sure I'd be able to keep the boner away. Call it a reflex or instinct, but I don't think I'd be able to control it.

I'm a straight guy, but it occurs to me that if the women in question, or some other people in the area, were pretty close to guaranteed to beat the crap out of me if I, ahem, as the term was used above, 'boned up', I could probably keep it under control.

Dr. Drake
10-06-2011, 08:59 AM
For me, nudity simply wasn't sexual in those situations. I would go to the gym with my dad as a kid, and be around naked men in the locker room. When you're a kid and your parent is there, it's inherently not sexual. Locker rooms never felt like even a potentially sexual situation to me: too many people, and associated with gym (ugh!). If I'd had to shower with just one other guy, that would have been different.

I know guys who have locker-room fantasies, so I don't think my answer works for everyone, but at the time it never even occurred to me.

Now, ask me about guys' necks. Sitting behind a really, really hot guy in a really boring Econ class every day gave me a real appreciation for necks.

Grrr!
10-06-2011, 09:24 AM
I have to admire you guys' mind-over-penis, although I'm sorry that fear was such a part of it. As a straight man, I really don't know if I could shower naked with a handful of naked women and be as "controlled" with my penis. I'm a happily married man with no desire to cheat on my wife, and even assuming these women would have no interest in me sexually whatsoever, I'm not sure I'd be able to keep the boner away. Call it a reflex or instinct, but I don't think I'd be able to control it.

I'm not sure if you're considering the full range of emotions though. I mean, sure, in a vacuum, me and a bunch of naked girls would result in a boner. But then you have to consider, self image, the embarrassment of getting a boner in front of said girls, etc..

Maus Magill
10-06-2011, 09:28 AM
I would imagine it's the same way that straight male dressers can assist with costume changes on women. You're there to do a job, in this case: clean yourself, not ogle people.

Then again, maybe it's different when you only have fifteen seconds to change someone's entire outfit before shoving them back on stage.

Antinor01
10-06-2011, 11:40 AM
I was rarely in that situation post-puberty but it was easy because it simply wasn't a sexual situation.

sachertorte
10-06-2011, 12:31 PM
It was never a problem for me, and I don't entirely know why. As for the statistical comment, I'll point out that while there were dozens of guys in a gym class, they all aren't in line of sight in the locker room. You really can only see the ones in your row.
I can't recall any of the guys in my row being hot, so I guess they weren't.

On the other hand, I see hot guys at the gym now and while they make for nice scenery, it isn't enough to cause an erection.

levdrakon
10-06-2011, 12:53 PM
I don't recall it ever being a problem. The shower is a great place to be naked and wet and think about sex and get a raging hard-on gay or straight, but a public one is also a horrifyingly embarrassing place to actually have one. How do you straight guys do it?

boytyperanma
10-06-2011, 02:30 PM
Another thought. I've personally never spent much time on nude beaches but plenty of people around the world use nude beaches. Most these places are coed, I'd imagine straight men might find themselves around around nude women. Do straight men have issues getting boners at such places? I've never really heard anything about it being a concern.

And overall what's the concern about men getting boners anyway. Say ever gay man in the military got a hard on when he takes a group shower, would unit cohesion come to a screeching halt? Seems to me it'd only be an issue if he couldn't keep his boner to himself or if other guys felt a need to harass the owner, at which point the issue isn't the guys sexuality.

CarnalK
10-06-2011, 02:37 PM
The same way you stopped yourself from getting a boner when seeing a really hot girl. Granted, full on nudity is more of a challenge, and also makes it harder to hide, but it's merely a matter of degree.


But hetero teenage boys DON'T stop themselves from having an erection when seeing a really hot girl.

Argent Towers
10-06-2011, 02:39 PM
I imagine a lot of guys solve the problem by going into a toilet stall and quickly beating off.

amaguri
10-06-2011, 02:59 PM
I have to admire you guys' mind-over-penis, although I'm sorry that fear was such a part of it. As a straight man, I really don't know if I could shower naked with a handful of naked women and be as "controlled" with my penis. I'm a happily married man with no desire to cheat on my wife, and even assuming these women would have no interest in me sexually whatsoever, I'm not sure I'd be able to keep the boner away. Call it a reflex or instinct, but I don't think I'd be able to control it.

It's not like you really have an opportunity to ogle people in this situation, either... At absolute most, you could steal a glance or two. It's not like a scene from a Skinemax softcore film.

I think it's just a combination of understanding the potentially painful repercussions of checkin out your locker partner's junk and the fact that the situation itself is not particularly erotic.

Inner Stickler
10-06-2011, 03:33 PM
I imagine a lot of guys solve the problem by going into a toilet stall and quickly beating off.I can only speak for me but not even close. I've never understood the appeal of jacking it on a toilet. And I can't speak for the others who've already talked about it but I just don't think there's really much more fear than the universal embarrassing fear of getting a stiffy in front of others.

treis
10-06-2011, 04:20 PM
But hetero teenage boys DON'T stop themselves from having an erection when seeing a really hot girl.

Yeah, seriously I couldn't believe that when I read it. I certainly remember random erections in high school, and even now I don't really possess a lot of mind over body control. Showering today with a bunch of attractive women would be a challenge. When I was a teenager I think I'd have had a better chance at splitting the atom.

Inner Stickler
10-06-2011, 04:25 PM
But how often would you have been in a situation where an erection couldn't have been hidden with a well placed notebook or readjustment of clothing? I think, even as teenagers, if you had to shower with a large contingent of girls who are also your peers, you'd very quickly learn to control it as well.

treis
10-06-2011, 04:46 PM
But how often would you have been in a situation where an erection couldn't have been hidden with a well placed notebook or readjustment of clothing?

Dancing with girls?


I think, even as teenagers, if you had to shower with a large contingent of girls who are also your peers, you'd very quickly learn to control it as well.

*shrug* I'm much less of a raging bag of hormones, but I still can't exactly control it. If it feels like rising, well, it's going to rise.

branjon
10-06-2011, 05:49 PM
...and the fact that the situation itself is not particularly erotic.

Exactly. We're talking about a high school locker room filled with teenage boys. It smelled awful. AWFUL. Mildewed towels to the left, dirty clothes to the right, and surrounded on all sides by less-than-hygienic adolescents making jokes about bodily functions. Eroticism = 0.

AClockworkMelon
10-06-2011, 05:55 PM
The same way you stopped yourself from getting a boner when seeing a really hot girl.So not at all?

drewtwo99
10-06-2011, 07:12 PM
I have to agree that it's not as hot as you might think it is. I've been in enough gyms and stuff and seen plenty of hot guys in the locker room... but I'm just not really thinking about sex in that situation. I'm more concerned with getting dressed and getting home ASAP.

grama
10-06-2011, 08:32 PM
As others already said, it's just not an erotic situation, I was never even worried that it might happen, i knew it wouldn't.

Although I must say i got "half" a hardon once, ONCE, and it was because i was alone in the showers with this other guy, and the reason i was having that (unnecesary) shower was because I wanted to see him naked again, so at that particular time it was an erotic situation.

Monkey Chews
10-06-2011, 09:13 PM
Fear, awkwardness, embarrassment, shame, and a big dose of "Get me the hell out of here as soon as humanly possible". Basically my sexuality was so repressed and disconnected from my physical self in my usual day to day goings on that there was simply no risk of that happening. It was only in the dark, alone at night, that I'd even allow myself to entertain those kind of thoughts. During the day time, surrounded by people? At SCHOOL? In the CHANGE ROOMS? Not happening. Not a chance.

Happy Lendervedder
10-06-2011, 09:14 PM
As others already said, it's just not an erotic situation, I was never even worried that it might happen, i knew it wouldn't.

Although I must say i got "half" a hardon once, ONCE, and it was because i was alone in the showers with this other guy, and the reason i was having that (unnecesary) shower was because I wanted to see him naked again, so at that particular time it was an erotic situation.

So you actively wanted to be in the shower naked with him, you admit it was erotic-- so how's you manage to keep it to only half mast? At that point, with eroticism in the air, I'd REALLY have a hard time not getting, er, hard.

simster
10-06-2011, 10:17 PM
'Group' Showers are generally only in basic, once you get to barracks and more traditional room and board, its more akin to college dorms (or straight on apartments/housing) - so we're only talking 6-8 weeks on average - and boot camp is not a time when you have 'time' to even think about sexuality in that situation - this isn't a leisurely shower after a workout.

Once deplloyed - again - the situation generally is not 'group' showers - and if you are concerned, you can probably get your timing just right that you lessen the risk - shower at the beginning of chow time so you're not 'exposed'.

I'd say if there was 'risk' here, it would be during the down time at nite or waking up first thing in the morning.

voguevixen
10-06-2011, 10:42 PM
BTW: My mother had told me that homosexuals raped women because they hated them. So not only was I afraid that I was going to attack children, but women also.

Ugh. I'm sorry.

crypto
10-06-2011, 10:53 PM
Yeah, Foggy. That's a tough thing to read. I can't imagine growing up with the pressures of rejection you clearly faced.

panache45
10-06-2011, 11:12 PM
There's another aspect that, in addition to fear, served to remove romantic thoughts: embarrassment over our own bodies. You're showering with other guys, some of whom are muscular jocks or hung like horses, and there you are with your less-than-perfect body. It makes for intense self-consciousness, and all you're thinking of is how to get back to your locker and get dressed as quickly as possible.

Princhester
10-06-2011, 11:18 PM
I would imagine it's the same way that straight male dressers can assist with costume changes on women.

I'm the first to admit I don't know anything about it but I would have thought (knowing what little I know about the theatre and the rag trade) that "straight male dressers" is almost an oxymoron, isn't it?

crypto
10-06-2011, 11:22 PM
I have to admire you guys' mind-over-penis, although I'm sorry that fear was such a part of it. As a straight man, I really don't know if I could shower naked with a handful of naked women and be as "controlled" with my penis. I'm a happily married man with no desire to cheat on my wife, and even assuming these women would have no interest in me sexually whatsoever, I'm not sure I'd be able to keep the boner away. Call it a reflex or instinct, but I don't think I'd be able to control it.

I'm going to share in this admiration. During puberty, there were times when I wasn't even in control of my erections. My erections were ahead of my thoughts at times.

And as a heterosexual man, I think I can speak for all of us when I say we understand the idea that you are NOT attracted to every man you see. Even if they happen to be naked in a group shower. But it only takes one. And if in a shower with a sample set of girls in my high school, I guarantee you that I'd find at least one of the women in the group attractive. And as much as I'd not want to get an erection in a public setting like a high school gym, I doubt at 15-17 years old I'd have the discipline not to at least look at the naked body of one of my nubile classmates.

Think Richard Dreyfus in Stakeout. He has a chance to get out of the house without detection, but can't resist risking it all just to get a glimpse of Madeleine Stowe naked. Now if it were Stakeout 2 and Rosie O'Donnell, sure... but for the most part, we'd try to sneak a peek.

There is one thing I obviously can't relate to, however. The pressure/shame/social stigma that a homosexual teen would face if outed in public, especially in high school. That must have been a very strong motive to concentrate on just getting the hell out of there. If Foggy was facing that kind of feedback at home, I imagine social feedback in high school would also be brutal.

In a military scenario, I imagine the threat of violence against you would also motivate you to use mind over matter. I've never seen another guy in the locker room with an erection, but having that pointed out by someone who wants to share it with the platoon, for example, could have very bad consequences for the one soldier.

Chronos
10-06-2011, 11:27 PM
I'm not gay, but a couple of things occur to me:

First, back when I was that age, anyone who commented on anyone else's penis, or seemed to be looking at one, would be hounded by the other guys for being gay. So even if one guy did have an erection, most everyone else would be trying not to notice, and even if they did, they wouldn't say anything about it.

Second, speaking from personal experience, at that age erections occurred not only at the slightest provocation, they often occurred with no provocation at all. If, for some unfathomable reason, someone did comment on a guy's erection, he could just say something like "Oh, I was just thinking about my girlfriend", or about the hot actress he saw in a movie the other day, or about a random chick he saw on the way to school, or whatever. Likewise, if a guy actually noticed another guy had an erection, he might assume the same explanation.

Sampiro
10-07-2011, 12:23 AM
Mind your business, look at the wall ahead of you. Think of dead kittens and other disgusting things you've seen, and bank the memory of the hot guys naked for future masturbation.

Illuminatiprimus
10-07-2011, 02:55 AM
Again, I find this weird. I have to think quite intensely about sex to get an erection so the idea of just catching a glimpse of someone you find attractive and *BOING* is completely foreign to me.

AClockworkMelon
10-07-2011, 03:26 AM
Again, I find this weird. I have to think quite intensely about sex to get an erection so the idea of just catching a glimpse of someone you find attractive and *BOING* is completely foreign to me.I'm the opposite. The slightest breeze can give me a hard-on.

Nava
10-07-2011, 05:39 AM
I'm the first to admit I don't know anything about it but I would have thought (knowing what little I know about the theatre and the rag trade) that "straight male dressers" is almost an oxymoron, isn't it?

No reason it would be, they're just helping take clothes off you and putting others on. I've helped my classmates get changed quickly for amateur shows and it was about as erotic as cutting my nails.

Maus Magill
10-07-2011, 07:24 AM
I'm the first to admit I don't know anything about it but I would have thought (knowing what little I know about the theatre and the rag trade) that "straight male dressers" is almost an oxymoron, isn't it?
In my case, it was a straight, male ASM who was assisting a poor, overwhelmed dresser faced with three costume changes involving corsets and pettycoats in two minutes.

Theater was fun, but I really prefer eating.

grama
10-07-2011, 07:29 AM
So you actively wanted to be in the shower naked with him, you admit it was erotic-- so how's you manage to keep it to only half mast? At that point, with eroticism in the air, I'd REALLY have a hard time not getting, er, hard.



To be honest, once i realized i was getting hard i got the hell out of there.

DMark
10-07-2011, 12:02 PM
It is not all the difficult - sure, you look, and sure you find some guys attractive, but the rest of the environment pretty much keeps things in check. I mean, it is not like the lights are dim and everyone has had a few beers and...well, that is another story. High school shower rooms are loud, stink to high heaven and 9/10 guys are average at best, and most are in a hurry to get out of there - so not exactly the hotbed of sexual tension. Bob might be hot, but Al, Fred, Chuck, Ernie and Nick are most certainly NOT. End of that story.

I also used to go to a Gay gym in West Hollywood. Mind you, the guys going there were drop dead gorgeous, many had been in Gay porn movies, some were actors in legit films and TV shows. You would think that, if anywhere, a Gay gym full of hot guys would be an uncontrollable erotic orgy. It wasn't. That's not to say that a few guys there didn't talk afterwards, maybe meet up for drinks, etc. but in the actual shower room? Nah...too busy, too loud and it still stunk to high heaven, even if the high heaven had lots of hot guys; just didn't make for the right mood.

appleciders
10-07-2011, 03:01 PM
I'm the first to admit I don't know anything about it but I would have thought (knowing what little I know about the theatre and the rag trade) that "straight male dressers" is almost an oxymoron, isn't it?

Almost. I haven't had a job titled as "dresser" since college, but I have helped with quick changes occasionally since then, especially if the dressers are overwhelmed or the company is too cheap to hire them. I haven't ever met a straight man who's making a career in costumes, though. During a change, everyone's being very professional because the potential consequences of being unprofessional are so drastic. (That is, losing your job and ruining your reputation in an industry that requires good connections and networking.) You really don't have time to, well, enjoy what you're doing anyway because if the actor needs help, there's a big time crunch.

AndyLee
10-07-2011, 04:05 PM
I would get a similar question about gay people as I was on the wrestling team in high school.

People who have never wrestled think it's erotic. Let me tell you it is anything but. You got someone on top of you trying to crush you and pin you down, all you can think about is getting out alive :)

I imagine it's the same way for gay people, you may think it's a potential erotic situation but it isn't.

chiroptera
10-07-2011, 04:17 PM
Is it OK for someone who is not a gay man to chime in here?

OK - I'm a straight female and been, for want of a better word, a nudist for about three decades. As in, I enjoy being in clothing-optional/clothing-free environments .Have spent a LOT of time in such places. Mostly very family-friendly, prim and not sexually oriented (except for Hedonism resort vacations.) Most nudist-type places are more conservative than a Tea Party prom, believe it or not.

I have introduced several male friends to this. Every single one of them has expressed great concern about inappropriate boners. But, it's never happened, even when my male friend was surrounded by 100 or more naked women.

Sampiro
10-07-2011, 04:32 PM
Again, I find this weird. I have to think quite intensely about sex to get an erection so the idea of just catching a glimpse of someone you find attractive and *BOING* is completely foreign to me.

It is to me now, but at 15 I didn't even have to look, just think about it. Plus the closest thing I had to gay porn was Jim Palmer underwear ads so there wasn't as much stimulation.

jharvey963
10-07-2011, 05:20 PM
Slightly off topic, but this shower talk about not getting a boner reminded me of this story about Denzel Washington.

He was about to do a nude scene in bed with a hot actress. Just before he climbed into bed and before the shot he supposedly said to the actress: "One of two things is going to happen. I apologize in advance for both of them."

which I thought was pretty classy...
J.

kimera
10-09-2011, 06:33 PM
My husband's in the military and he knew men who were openly gay before the repeal of DADT. Most people are cool with it and you wouldn't have to worry about violence, just being teased.

There is a lot of homosexual teasing and play in the military. For example, my husband said that once when he was showering he had a guy run up to him and start slapping his thigh with his cock. Gay chicken is also a popular game.

crypto
10-09-2011, 08:06 PM
Is it OK for someone who is not a gay man to chime in here?

OK - I'm a straight female and been, for want of a better word, a nudist for about three decades. As in, I enjoy being in clothing-optional/clothing-free environments .Have spent a LOT of time in such places. Mostly very family-friendly, prim and not sexually oriented (except for Hedonism resort vacations.) Most nudist-type places are more conservative than a Tea Party prom, believe it or not.

I have introduced several male friends to this. Every single one of them has expressed great concern about inappropriate boners. But, it's never happened, even when my male friend was surrounded by 100 or more naked women.

This is an interesting analogy. I will be the first to say that I don't understand the nudist lifestyle (not that there's anything wrong with it... I just don't get it.) But is there any age limits to a nudist colony? You say family friendly, so it sounds like there isn't any problem with parents bringing children. I've never been to a nudist colony, but if I had to guess, growing up in that environment might make one less likely to become erect. Or as an adult going to one for the first time, I might not have any problems because of fear of offending someone, embarrassing myself, or both. But as a high school aged boy going for the first time? I don't know. If I saw people old enough to be my grandparents, I'm most likely safe, but if I saw a female classmate I've had my eye on in school, or a MILF, I think I might be in trouble and in search of a towel. The fear of embarrassment would be over-ridden by my sexual impulses.

Context or activity would also play a role. I don't think I'd want to see anyone going to the bathroom, for instance, no matter how attractive they might be.

Naxos
10-09-2011, 08:16 PM
... I ask this because I don't think that if I were in a situation where I had to shower with all the girls in my gym class that I'd be able to maintain control.

There are about 2 dozen presumptions in that question.

If you were allowed to shower in the company of women you may be aroused, but the social rules that would have allowed you to shower with women would not also be critical of your state of arousal. It would be insane if they they were.

Your question should rather be -- can we allow people to be sexually aroused in social situations, as in showers, when they're naked, etc, -- or not?

Would you allow another person in your gym class to look sexually aroused or you'd criticize or reject them?

That's the question.

chiroptera
10-09-2011, 08:18 PM
This is an interesting analogy. I will be the first to say that I don't understand the nudist lifestyle (not that there's anything wrong with it... I just don't get it.) But is there any age limits to a nudist colony? You say family friendly, so it sounds like there isn't any problem with parents bringing children. I've never been to a nudist colony, but if I had to guess, growing up in that environment might make one less likely to become erect. Or as an adult going to one for the first time, I might not have any problems because of fear of offending someone, embarrassing myself, or both. But as a high school aged boy going for the first time? I don't know. If I saw people old enough to be my grandparents, I'm most likely safe, but if I saw a female classmate I've had my eye on in school, or a MILF, I think I might be in trouble and in search of a towel. The fear of embarrassment would be over-ridden by my sexual impulses.

Context or activity would also play a role. I don't think I'd want to see anyone going to the bathroom, for instance, no matter how attractive they might be.

One place I've been to quite often is a family nudist place; now that I think of it the few kids I see there are quite young.

But I don't think it would necessarily be a big issue for teenagers who are used to and relaxed about public nakedness. It's hard to explain - most resorts/spas/bathhouses are so unsexual and, yes, wholesome, naughty thoughts just don't crop up, as it were. A teenager going for the first time? Probably not easy, in the U.S. I grew up in communes and in countries where nudism and (segregated) bathhouses were quite normal and accepted and nudity, per se, is not necessarily erotic.

I most certainly have never been anyplace where it's acceptable to go go to the bathroom in public! Yuck. Even the Hedonism resorts, which are very adult and sexually-oriented.

Illuminatiprimus
10-10-2011, 07:29 AM
I most certainly have never been anyplace where it's acceptable to go go to the bathroom in public! Yuck. Even the Hedonism resorts, which are very adult and sexually-oriented.Try gay bars in Manhattan. When I was visiting I went to a place that had a toilet bowl sitting completely out in the open with no partition or door or anything. I don't know who the hell would use such a thing, and I'm someone who likes to be clothing optional!

Feyrat
10-10-2011, 02:22 PM
I would imagine it's the same way that straight male dressers can assist with costume changes on women. You're there to do a job, in this case: clean yourself, not ogle people.

Then again, maybe it's different when you only have fifteen seconds to change someone's entire outfit before shoving them back on stage.

I'm not a gay guy, but I'm a bi girl and have been a dresser for a couple years - I have to say I've never been aroused doing that job, even when I had to handle a woman's tits (very well-endowed lady, very skimpy costume) to get her smoothly in and out of her costumes quickly. There's just not time for it, and it's not a sexual situation, it's too high-stress and businesslike.

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