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Dendarii Dame
05-09-2014, 12:40 PM
In Captain America: The First Avenger, Steve Rogers made at least one movie while he was doing the war bond drive. They show a scene from it.

So, any guesses as to what his hypothetical "Degree of Kevin Bacon" might be?

Dangerosa
05-09-2014, 12:44 PM
Audie Murphy has a Bacon number of two. My guess is that Steve Rogers would be similar.

Reno Nevada
05-09-2014, 01:42 PM
Audie Murphy appeared in 51 movies after WWII, so I don't think he is exactly comparable.

You want a person who appeared in a propaganda film during the war as his only film appearance.

Sage Rat
05-09-2014, 02:19 PM
Well we can probably assume a worst case of 4 then, knowing that even if he never appeared with Audie Murphy in something that it's highly improbable that of all the people Captain performed with, that not one of them did something with Audie.

mbh
05-09-2014, 02:23 PM
In the real world, the 1944 movie serial Captain America (http://imdb.com/title/tt0036697/) co-starred Lionel Atwill and Lorna Gray.

According to The Oracle of Bacon (http://oracleofbacon.org/movielinks.php), Lionel Atwill and Lorna Gray both have Bacon Numbers of 3.

If we postulate that Steve Rogers' movies were similarly cast, then Rogers would probably have a Bacon Number no higher than 4.

Chronos
05-09-2014, 03:23 PM
OK, now assuming that he was listed as a co-author for something from the super soldier project, what would his Erdös number be?

Little Nemo
05-09-2014, 07:17 PM
Let's assume Captain America appeared in a USO film with Bob Hope.

Bob Hope co-starred with Tim Matheson in How to Commit Marriage (1969). Matheson would go on to play Otter in Animal House (1978) which was Kevin Bacon's film debut. So Captain America would have a Bacon Number of four.

And is anyone else surprised to discover Matheson was thirty-one years old when he played Otter? Peter Riegert (Boone) was also thirty-one and Mark Metcalf (Neidermeyer) and Mary Louise Weller (Mandy) were thirty-two.

mbh
05-10-2014, 05:10 PM
According to the Oracle of Bacon, Bob Hope's Bacon Number is 2.

Bob Hope was inThe Muppet Movie with Elliot Gould.
Elliot Gould was in The Big Picture with Kevin Bacon.

This would give the captain a Bacon Number of 3.

Morbo
05-10-2014, 05:26 PM
Slight hijack, but FYI Google has a built in Bacon Number generator (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bob+hope+bacon+number). (That's the first time I've used that link w/o trying to be a jerk :))

MrKnowItAll
05-10-2014, 05:29 PM
Well, Donald Duck made a war propaganda movie, and he has a Bacon number of 3.

nevadaexile
05-10-2014, 06:39 PM
Ronald Reagan's Bacon number is 2
Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford appeared in Greatest Presidents of the United States.
Gerald Ford and Kevin Bacon appeared in Frost/Nixon.

So The Captain could also have a 2.
Or a 3.

Little Nemo
05-10-2014, 08:59 PM
Let's assume Captain America appeared in a USO film with Bob Hope.

Bob Hope co-starred with Tim Matheson in How to Commit Marriage (1969). Matheson would go on to play Otter in Animal House (1978) which was Kevin Bacon's film debut. So Captain America would have a Bacon Number of four.

According to the Oracle of Bacon, Bob Hope's Bacon Number is 2.

Bob Hope was inThe Muppet Movie with Elliot Gould.
Elliot Gould was in The Big Picture with Kevin Bacon.

This would give the captain a Bacon Number of 3.Same number of links just a different way of counting the score.

Oldeb
05-10-2014, 11:29 PM
OK, now assuming that he was listed as a co-author for something from the super soldier project, what would his Erdös number be?
Dr. Erskine likely has a Erdos number of 4. Certainly at least one of the people involved with the project would have gone on to work with either Eugene Koonin or Eric Lander, both prolific biologists who worked with genetics. Since they both have Erdos numbers of 2 the assistant makes 3 and Erskine ends with 4. While Erskine and Erdos do have overlapping careers I got the impression that Erskine was in Germany until very close to the start of the movie making it unlikely the two ever published anything together.

In the hypothetical Cap ends with either 4 or 5 depending on whether the unnamed assistant was a co-author or just him and Erskine.

TriPolar
05-10-2014, 11:45 PM
And is anyone else surprised to discover Matheson was thirty-one years old when he played Otter? Peter Riegert (Boone) was also thirty-one and Mark Metcalf (Neidermeyer) and Mary Louise Weller (Mandy) were thirty-two.

That is surprising. I figured Metcalf was older, never looked at the ages of the rest.

bienville
05-11-2014, 03:25 AM
Ronald Reagan's Bacon number is 2
Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford appeared in Greatest Presidents of the United States.
Gerald Ford and Kevin Bacon appeared in Frost/Nixon.

No no no no no no no.
Documentaries don't count. Archive footage doesn't count. Each Bacon link has to have worked on the film as an actor.
:smack:

Oracle of Bacon does still give Ronald Reagan a Bacon Number of 2 through legitimate channels:
Ronald Reagan in Brother Rat with Eddie Albert who was in The Big Picture with Kevin Bacon.

Before consulting the oracle, the best I could come up with on my own was 3:
Ronald Reagan in The Killers with Lee Marvin who was in The Iceman Cometh with Jeff Bridges who was in R.I.P.D. with Kevin Bacon.

Jonathan Chance
05-11-2014, 06:09 AM
OK, now assuming that he was listed as a co-author for something from the super soldier project, what would his Erdös number be?

Well, that contains an enormous assumption that he would have

1. Been allowed to publish
2. Done so before being ruthlessly gunned down by Thorin Oakenshield

It may be possible it was later written up by someone else (certainly everyone and their kid brother seems to be working on a variation of the super soldier serum) and that person might have given him a posthumous credit.

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