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Alan Smithee
10-29-2016, 07:39 PM
I'm finally watching GoT now that a friend gave me access to HBOgo. I just started the fourth season, and I'm shocked by the way they recast Daario Naharis, the assassin from Yunkai who helps Daenerys conquer the city.

I know why they recast the roll: the original actor got a better role in the Transporter movies. And it's not shocking that they would choose an actor who happens to look different for the part. But they deliberately made the new actor look as different as possible from the old actor. The first Daario was blond, long-haired and clean shaven. The new one has black, shorter hair, and a beard. This must have been deliberate.

From reading some of the old show threads, I know there was speculation that Daario was supposed to be a face-shifter like Jaqen H'ghar, the "murder genie" who helped Arya escape Harrenhall. But that apparently (as far as I know) wasn't the case. It doesn't help that IMO original Daario looked a little like original Jaqen and had some similar speech patterns.

Why would they do this? It seems guaranteed to cause confusion, especially given the canonical existence of face-shifters in the show. The producers must have been asked about this at some point, but I don't want to search for fear of spoilers.

Please NO SPOILERS FOR THE SHOW AFTER SEASON THREE except what is necessary to answer the question. If Daario is a face shifter, you can tell me that, but don't provide any other details, please. If you aren't sure if something is a spoiler or not, err on the side of caution. Book spoilers up to the equivalent point in the story are fine, but nothing that would spoil anything in season four (after the first episode, which I've seen) or later.

ganthet
10-29-2016, 07:54 PM
It's clear as mud (http://eonline.com/news/692770/ed-skrein-game-of-thrones-1st-daario-explains-why-he-left-the-hbo-show-find-out-what-he-said), according to him. "Politics."

River Hippie
10-29-2016, 08:26 PM
I actually prefer the second one. I recognized the actor from Treme and so maybe I was favorably inclined towards him. I felt like the role called for less of a "pretty boy" than the original actor.

JSexton
11-01-2016, 12:29 PM
If he was supposed to have changed his face in-universe, don't you think Dany or someone who have mentioned it? If nothing else, that's a helluva tactical ability to have on your side in a war.

bump
11-01-2016, 01:39 PM
I'll say this... book-Daario had a blue three-forked beard, if I recall. And was a really cocky, swaggering sort of guy. Not "pretty" though.

Neither actor really matches up to book-Daario in terms of GRRM's descriptions, and both actors have aspects that they do better than the other.

Alan Smithee
11-01-2016, 01:42 PM
I'll say this... book-Daario had a blue three-forked beard, if I recall. And was a really cocky, swaggering sort of guy. Not "pretty" though.

Neither actor really matches up to book-Daario in terms of GRRM's descriptions, and both actors have aspects that they do better than the other.What part of "the books don't exist" can't you--oh wait, this is MY thread! I like the books (what I've read of them, anyway)! I don't remember anything about book-Daario, though. Thanks for the info!

Rigamarole
11-01-2016, 02:00 PM
I'll say this... book-Daario had a blue three-forked beard, if I recall. And was a really cocky, swaggering sort of guy. Not "pretty" though.

Yeah, a lot of Essos people are described in the book as being really flamboyant and (literally) colorful in their appearance, like characters out of The Hunger Games. Obviously, they didn't go with this stylistic choice in the show.

Alan Smithee
11-01-2016, 03:11 PM
If he was supposed to have changed his face in-universe, don't you think Dany or someone who have mentioned it? If nothing else, that's a helluva tactical ability to have on your side in a war.

That's my point! If you're telling a story about vampires, you don't give a character pale skin and long canines if you don't want the audience to think the character is a vampire (even if its only misdirection). In a show with characters who can change their appearance magically, you don't deliberately emphasize a character's change in appearance and then not mention it and act like nothing happened! Why would you?

I'm not asking why they cast an actor who didn't look like the first actor. I'm asking why they told him to grow a beard and wear short black hair, when they could easily have told him to shave his beard and wear a long blond wig. It's not like the actor got to choose his own hairstyle and appearance. Even if he didn't end up looking like the same guy, giving him blond hair and no beard would be a signal to the audience that he was meant in-universe to be the same guy. They did the opposite.

It's like giving Spock round ears and spiky hair just because you recast the role.

Were they so pissed off at Ed Skrein that they didn't even want a character who looked like him anymore? That's the implication of ganthet's post and the linked article, I suppose, but I'd like more detail. What did he do to them?

magnusblitz
11-01-2016, 03:51 PM
I'll say this... book-Daario had a blue three-forked beard, if I recall. And was a really cocky, swaggering sort of guy. Not "pretty" though.

Neither actor really matches up to book-Daario in terms of GRRM's descriptions, and both actors have aspects that they do better than the other.

I think that the first one's Fabio-esque long blonde hair fit the idea of book Daario better, though. All flamboyant style, no substance. Second Daario is much more restrained and feels like a complete person instead, and it sorta ruins the whole Dany/Jorah/Daario "love triangle" since one of the undertones is Dany choosing style (Daario) over substance (Jorah). In the show, Daario is superior to Jorah in pretty much every way.

DigitalC
11-01-2016, 04:04 PM
Not only did the actors look nothing alike the personality changed completely also.

Skammer
11-02-2016, 10:22 AM
It's clear as mud (http://eonline.com/news/692770/ed-skrein-game-of-thrones-1st-daario-explains-why-he-left-the-hbo-show-find-out-what-he-said), according to him. "Politics." Huh, until reading that article I completely did not recognize him as having been the villain in Deadpool.. Even seeing pictures of them side by side, it's hard to get past the lack of long, flowing blonde hair to recognize the same actor.

Dale Sams
11-02-2016, 02:42 PM
Not only did the actors look nothing alike the personality changed completely also.

Until i got used to it, I head-canoned them as being different people.

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