Thread Tools
Old 08-23-2002, 03:45 AM
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: El Paso, Texas
Posts: 1,839
Famous 'illegitimate' children list

I use 'illegitimate' for the lack of a better word...its certainly better than the b-word.

Anyway I just wanted to compile a list...for personal reasons. I suppose if we count children of celebrities in the last ten years it would be too long! Lets limit it to people who became famous in their own right, or just maybe children of famous people who had a baby out of wedlock when it was still very scandalous (like Ingrid Bergman).

The ones I can think of are...

William the Conqueror
Oprah Winfrey
Fidel Castro
Sophia Loren

and as far as 'illegitimate' parents...

Thomas Jefferson (Sally Hemmings is a whole other issue I suppose), Grover Cleveland, and Warren Harding...of course some dispute those. I think every president has been accused of that at one time or another.
Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley

Also while adopted children are often assumed to be born out of wedlock, I don't think they were usually described as 'illegitimate' as children: but of course have their own unique issues to deal with in many cases - if they learn of their background.

And to make the thread more germaine to the 'Cafe Society'...fictional characters or literary works are ok too if significant to the topic.
Old 08-23-2002, 10:53 AM
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 12,509
Alexander Hamilton
Old 08-23-2002, 11:28 AM
SD Curator of Critters
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Panama
Posts: 37,831
Henry Morton Stanley, African explorer
Willy Brandt, German politician
Jack Nicholson
Old 08-23-2002, 11:45 AM
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 13,231
IIRC, David Bowie was born out of wedlock, but his biological parents did marry not long afterwards.

Although probably not illegitimate, rock singer Eddie Vedder had came from particularly bizarre and Gothic beginnings. His parents divorced while he was a baby, and his mother quickly remarried an old high school sweetheart. The truth of young Eddie's paternity was not revealed to him until his late teens, after his biological father died and his mother and stepfather divorced.
Old 08-23-2002, 09:50 PM
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,115
Eric Clapton - as far as I know he never knew his father.
For years his mother told him, she was his sister, and his grandmother was his mother. The truth came out eventually, but Clapton was a young man by then. How's that for twisted.
Old 08-23-2002, 10:20 PM
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Haligonia
Posts: 3,398
I remember reading something about Clapton's father, who was eventually revealed to have been living in Canada. He died before Clapton knew who he was though.
Old 08-24-2002, 02:59 PM
Charter Member
Charter Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 38,721
Sarah Bernhardt, IIRC
Old 08-24-2002, 03:10 PM
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Bohemia. A seacoast.
Posts: 6,242
Desiderius Erasmus was an illegitimate child. Lady Mary Wroth, a semi-famous seventeenth century poet, had a notorious affair with her cousin which resulted in the birth of two illegitimate children; Aemilia Lanyer, another semi-famous woman poet, probably had an illegitimate son (she married before he was born, but her husband seems not to have been the father). Ben Jonson may have had several illegitimate kids, but there were so many Johnsons in 17th-century London that it's hard to be sure.

The nice thing about being a grad student is you get to know a lot of gossip about dead people.
Old 08-24-2002, 04:24 PM
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 252
Ones not yet mentioned:

John James Audabon
Giovanni Boccacio
Giovanni Casanova
Paul Cezanne
Pope Clement VII
Macauley Culkin
Bobby Darin
Frederick Douglass
Alexander Dumas fils
George Foreman
Jean Genet
James Kier Hardie
Billie Holliday
Bo Jackson
Jesse Jackson
T.E. Lawrence
Jack London
Anna Magnani
Tobey Maguirre
Rod McKuen
Maria Montessori
Shaquille O'Neal
Evita Peron
Fransisco Pizzaro
August Strindberg
Richard Wagner
Booker T Washington
Reggie White
Old 08-24-2002, 04:52 PM
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 87
you sure about Shaq? There are a lot of news stories about his father.
Old 08-24-2002, 05:23 PM
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Right here
Posts: 18,060
Shaq speaks highly of his stepfather and in fact calls him his father. Shaq was born out of wedlock.
Old 08-24-2002, 05:38 PM
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: New York
Posts: 22,322
The Bastard in Bastard out of Carolina. Most likely.

Pearl in The Scarlet Letter.

And there have got to be others, but that's all I can think of as far as fictional characters go.
Old 08-24-2002, 05:46 PM
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 1,470
Fictional characters? How about Mordred? Or Edmund (in King Lear)? Both rather nasty individuals, but hey, you didn't say "positive role models"...

BTW, semi-famous seventeenth-century poet Willam Davenant claimed to be Shakespeare's illegitimate son, though that one is dubious at best.
Old 08-24-2002, 06:12 PM
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Oregon
Posts: 5,876
Dave Thomas, founder of Wendy's
Old 08-24-2002, 07:39 PM
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The Heart of the Sun
Posts: 893
I know I've heard the story about Clapton and his Sister/Mom is true about Bobby Darin. Could that be incorrect? Also, I've met Oprah's Dad. His name is Winfrey and they know each other!
Old 08-24-2002, 08:20 PM
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,115
Yes, it is true about Bobby Darin, it made him kill himself.
Old 08-24-2002, 08:58 PM
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 1,830
Originally posted by Intaglio
Yes, it is true about Bobby Darin, it made him kill himself.
You're half right- that is his family history, but he didn't kill himself. Complications during heart surgury. Certainly, though, the shock of the discovery can aggrevate a heart condition.

Jack Nicholson also was grown before he discovered that his 'sister' Lorraine was his mother.
Old 08-25-2002, 03:48 PM
Charter Member
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: SEC
Posts: 13,750
Alec Guiness
Old 08-25-2002, 05:36 PM
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Pit of the Peach State
Posts: 17,906
John Paul Jones
Old 08-25-2002, 05:42 PM
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Pit of the Peach State
Posts: 17,906
Leonardo da Vinci
Old 08-25-2002, 07:21 PM
Charter Member
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Anaheim, CA
Posts: 28,301
P.D.Q. Bach.
Old 08-26-2002, 08:46 AM
Charter Member
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 45,410
Serial killer Ted Bundy. Another person who thought his mother was his sister. There's some speculation that his mother's father was also his father, but his mother denies it.
Old 08-26-2002, 09:04 AM
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,719
Interesting, the websites are divided on whether or not Vernon Winfrey ever married Vernita Lee. Nonetheless, Oprah would make this list in her own right, as she gave birth to a daughter in her early teens (I can't recall whether the baby was stillborn or died soon after birth) - the circumstances regarding the baby's conception were the subject of one of her programmes a few years ago.
Old 08-26-2002, 09:30 AM
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: outside Oslo, Norway
Posts: 4,782
Minor point of clarification - Maria Montessori was born to married parents. It was her son, Mario, who was illegitimate - the result of an affair with a married colleague. Maria M never married.
An American flodnak in Oslo.
Do not open cover; no user serviceable parts inside.
Old 08-26-2002, 10:42 AM
Join Date: Feb 2000
Posts: 7,313
I don't think that Ingrid Bergman and Roberto Roselini were married when Isabella Roselini was born, but I could be mistaken.
Old 08-26-2002, 11:51 AM
Eve Eve is offline
Join Date: Dec 1999
Posts: 22,064
What? No one's mentioned Marilyn Monroe yet?

Also, actress Mariska Hargitay, daughter of Jayne Mansfield and, supposedly, Mickey Hargitay. She's admitted her biological father is Italian singer and producer Nelson Sardelli, but she doesn't like to publicize it, as she is so close to Mickey—one reason I'll not be able to do a book on Jaynie, dammit.
Old 08-26-2002, 02:38 PM
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,341
Robert Burns had an illegitimate daughter. He fought to get custody of her, and she was raised by his mother. He wrote a poem called A Poet's Welcome to his Love-Begotten Daughter on her birth:

Welcome, my bonie, sweet, wee dochter!
Tho' ye come here a wee unsought for,
And tho' your comin I hae fought for
Baith kirk and queir;
Yet, by my faith, ye're no unwrought for ---
That I shall swear!
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:38 PM.

Copyright © 2017
Best Topics: negative pressure room songs with letter alabama coastline wide truck tires paneling glue squee definition hardest cello piece bo dietl arbys glasses are sexy archer floyd county zweihander sheath satellite descrambler box mexican sweater name severe dry nose fairy chess pieces schick shadel burien midnight friday who is fretkillr shape of oklahoma volunteers firefighters oatmeal and gerd cajun boogie man sedgefield jeans true assure dental electric leg shaver electrocution painful phedophile jokes naval waist kimchi safeway spice melange gotjunk pricing jamie lee curtis androgen insensitivity syndrome blazing saddles dom deluise how to test carbon monoxide detector how much heat does a dehumidifier produce liquid solder for electrical connections does alcohol have an odor boric acid for sale how to know if the mailman came tick tock dean koontz is it legal to live in a commercial building emily dickinson yellow rose of texas drain gas from lawn mower how to make a dense cheesecake the good doctor phrase does ginger contain caffeine jackson browne load out stay live sony dvp sr370 region free person with no eyes wheels of justice grind slowly set time 10 minutes someone stole my debit card and used it at an atm can you use river rock in a fire pit can you trade in 2 cars for 1 new car du hast mich gefragt meaning car is completely dead with new battery look into the abyss and it looks back do navy sailors see combat who sings spongebob theme pee a lot during period behind my ears smell like cheese