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Old 04-09-2003, 09:17 AM
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Can someone please explain the appeal of Jenna Jameson?

For those not in the know, Jenna Jameson is a porn star. Actually, from what I can tell, she is considered the Porn Star (PS). She is the only PS I have seen on such fairly mainstream shows (at least, compared to porn) as "The Man Show" and Ben Stein's old talk show. Her popularity seems almost on par with that of Ron Jeremy, and this while her career is still viable.

Anyway, I'm wondering, what gives? I've seen some of Jameson's porn. She's no better at doing what PS's do than anyone else, IMHO. She has an exceptionally nice boob job, and a decent body, but again, no better than a host of others in the industry. Not only that, but without all the makeup and dye job, she really isn't even that pretty! (Call it the Pamela Anderson effect.)
Jeremy's status as a cult figure was invented after his heyday in porn was over, and was based as much on his personality (he's one of the few porn actors who can be truly funny, on purpose) as anything.
But Jameson has no "personality" to speak of. Why, then, is she anything more than second-rate?
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Old 04-09-2003, 09:23 AM
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I don't know. I always thought Jill Kelly was prettier, a better actress, and a better porn starlet. Like Ron Jeremy, Jill Kelly is actually capable of being entertaining outside of porn. I like her body better before she got her knobs enlarged, though.
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Re: Can someone please explain the appeal of Jenna Jameson?

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But Jameson has no "personality" to speak of. Why, then, is she anything more than second-rate?
Since when has personality (off screen) had anything to do with a stars bocks office power? Lots of guys find her attractive and are willing to spend the money to watch her grind nasties. I have never thought too much of her myself, either.
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Old 04-09-2003, 09:47 AM
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While I've never thought to much of her...performances, she does seem reasonably smart and confident. I read an interview with her once. Perhaps it was edited, but she came across as someone who knew damn well the stigma of what she was doing, and was smart enough to invest the cash. I've been told her apearances of mainstream TV come across sassy and impressive, although I've never seen one myself.
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Re: Can someone please explain the appeal of Jenna Jameson?

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She has an exceptionally nice boob job, and a decent body....
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Old 04-09-2003, 11:38 AM
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Much like Cindy Margolis, Jenna Jameson is the product of intensive self-promotion than any real superiority as a porn star/actress/ model/whatever. She is accepted as more popular because she forces her name out in the spotlight more often.
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Old 04-09-2003, 01:27 PM
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And she went on O'Reilly. Kick-ass chick.

I wouldn't touch her with a ten foot pole, but still...Kick-ass chick.
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Old 04-09-2003, 01:46 PM
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Plastic is always popular.
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Old 04-09-2003, 01:55 PM
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I've seen interviews with her on television and she seems smarter than many of her peers. She also seemed to me a bit brighter than Bill O'Reilly when she spoke with him (though in the interests of fairness it should be said that I have an anti-O'Reilly bias).

Also, if I'm not mistaken, she was a contract girl with Vivid or one of the other big porn companies. If this is so, then her movies should be promoted a lot more than most of the others, which would account for her being more popular than most of her peers.

I myself think Jenna is "okay," but rather overrated.
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Old 04-09-2003, 01:56 PM
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I saw her on Howard Stern discussing her first leasbian experience with a cheerleader in high school. I've been hooked ever since . . .
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Old 04-09-2003, 02:03 PM
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It's mainly due to her tireless self-promotion. She also seems to have a knack for picking the right niches within which to market herself (for instance, metalheads like me that go to tattoofests are more likely to be interested in porno stars than people attending an Oprah Winfrey book-signing; then again, you never know). Also, she's blonde, and I think she's hot in the trailer trash kinda way (aptly described as the Pam Anderson effect above).
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Old 04-09-2003, 03:08 PM
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Because as Hall of Fame porn stud Peter (volcanic pop-shot) North said, "Fucking Jenna's pussy is like fucking cheesecake."
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Old 04-09-2003, 03:25 PM
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Jenna Jameson... Mmmmhhh...
Obviously her looks are the appeal for me, but as strange as it sounds, I also like her voice.
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Old 04-09-2003, 04:04 PM
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She looks used up in person.
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Because as Hall of Fame porn stud Peter (volcanic pop-shot) North said, "Fucking Jenna's pussy is like fucking cheesecake."
So, is that a good thing, or was he just hungry at the time?

Because you should never go shopping for food, or give an interview when your stomach is empty.

BTW: isn't Jenna pretty rich, too? I thought I read an article a year or so ago which described her as being pretty business-savvy and, well, a millionaire because of it.
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Old 04-09-2003, 04:40 PM
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Hasn't she been doing it for quite some time now? I saw an interview a while ago, and she looked pretty worn.

What her appeal is - well, it's beyond me. Big tits and childish face doesn't do it for me. Obviously YMMV.
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Old 04-09-2003, 05:39 PM
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I like Jenna because:

1. She's a PS.
2. Jenna's Built for Speed- 'nuff said.
3. She gives the best looking oral ever.
4. It's all about fantasy anyway, so why not.

I prefer different looking women IRL.
I don't like super freaks in porn.
Jenna is between those two.

And yes, her popularity is partially self-induced.
But she seems like she has fun with it, which is why
I prefer pro-porn vs. amatuer anyday.
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Old 04-09-2003, 06:04 PM
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PS = Porn Star? or is there something I'm missing.
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Old 04-09-2003, 06:37 PM
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She looks used up in person.
She came to speak at a pornography debate at my school last year, so I got to meet her up close. She most certainly did not look "used up" or "worn out." She actually had put herself together nicely -- not in full porn makeup and hair -- and looked even more attractive than I'd expected. And she comported herself well; not a brilliant speaker, but held her own.
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Old 04-09-2003, 06:46 PM
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I think those who have highlighted her tireless self-promotion and marketing skills have nailed her. Uh, it. Nailed it. Whatever.

For example, getting herself title-billed with Rocco Siffredi, by first name alone even, was quite a canny maneuver. She puts herself at the same level with an internationally prominent star, and elevates her profile considerably. I think that had a lot to do with cementing her stardom; she was already pretty well-known by that point, but she made a claim on number-one status, I think, with that title.

Speaking for myself, I'm not much of a fan. I don't care for fake boobs in porn, no matter how "exceptional" they might be. I much prefer a natural B or C cup sloshing around than a D or E that doesn't move, even if it isn't marred by scars or weird stretch marks or any of the other giveaways. I tend to go for European porn for this reason; Pierre Woodman's "Pyramid" trilogy has some jaw-droppingly hot (and unaltered) women in it.

In any case, I consider Jenna as something like the Madonna of porn. No better than average when evaluated objectively, but she's raised marketing and image management to an art form. And like Madonna, you gotta give her huge props for successfully separating herself from the competition without having substantially better resources to begin with.
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Old 04-09-2003, 06:56 PM
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Orange, garden hose. You do the math.
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Old 04-09-2003, 08:23 PM
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She came to speak at a pornography debate at my school last year, so I got to meet her up close.
I definetly went to the wrong school when I was a kid!
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Old 04-09-2003, 08:34 PM
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There was a segment on The Man Show where Jenna was explaining how to polish a candlestick. It was very suggestive and sexy (as you can imagine). To end it she said, "On next week's episode, I'll show you how to do it without using your hands".

I think that nicely sums up my fondness for her...
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Old 04-09-2003, 09:29 PM
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I definetly went to the wrong school when I was a kid!
By school, of course, I meant university. And, unsurprisingly, the turnout for the debate was about 99% guys.
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Old 04-10-2003, 12:32 AM
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I have to say that I don't get it either. I'm really not a porn fan, but my bf has a thing for JJ's movies, so I've sat through a few. She doesn't do anything exceptional, she's another one of those Blonde Clone Women, and while she has a nice body, a good 25% was not grown organically and looks pretty much like every other porn star I've ever seen. I agree with the intense self-promotion, though. From what I've heard about her, she's some sort of Evita-style relentless social climber who will trample anyone who gets between her and publicity.

I met her in person once- she came to a local adult video store, and I went in to get my bf a signed Jenna action figure. (Oh, yes, they exist. And they are anatomically correct, if a few strategically-placed paint smears are anything to judge by.) She looked pretty, I guess, in that wilted too-much-plastic-surgery and make-up turning-runny-in-the-heat sort of way. I think the only reason she comes across as smarter than most of her fellows in interviews is because she knows enough not to get all smacked up right before meeting the press. (It's amazing how many interviews I've seen with female PS's in which they are so obviously high.)

But I felt kind of sorry for her. I was watching her while standing in line, and she looked tired. Her smile was forced. Granted, while it's her choice to so relentlessly self-promote, and it has resulted in quite a bit of fame and I'm sure financial success for her, I got the feeling that sometimes she just really wants to not be Jenna Jameson for a while, and wipe off the 5 lbs. of make-up and just sit on the couch in sweatpants and eat all the ice cream she wants. It made me a little sad to think her only real asset is her body, which will inevitably one day desert her, and then she'll just be another old lady with saggy arms and a chest full of plastic. All the way to the bank, though, right?
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Old 04-10-2003, 01:17 AM
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I've seen countless photos, all kinds of snippets of non-porn video, and I STILL cannot pick her out of a crowd of two.

So I guess what I'm trying to tell you is that I cannot satisfy your thirst for knowledge.
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I think her appeal largely derives from her willingness to have various organs rammed into her vagina before a camera.

That, or her singing career.
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Old 04-10-2003, 04:24 AM
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Count me as another in the growing host of men who are turned off by starlets such as Jameson. the best thing I've seen her in was an "Up and Cumming" back when she was first getting started.

It was a creampie shoot, although that may have been by accident, and she was decent looking. Not fake, like now.

I'll take Stephanie Swift or any other unique looking ladies over a Jameson or Jameson knock off anyday.
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Old 04-10-2003, 05:44 AM
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The way I see it she is the epitome of the porn star:

Huge fake breasts - check.
Huge blond hair - check.
Built body - check.
Pretty face - check.
Does anything - check.

She's probably looked at a lot of other popular porn stars, ascertained the common denominators, and gone for it. And she did it. Good for her.

I never saw her as anything special, though, but then popularity isn't built on a few people liking you really much, but on really many people liking you OK.
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She looks totally different than she did a few years ago. When she was on Jerry Springer, I thought she was fairly unattractive but I guess plastic surgery can accomplish anything.

I prefer Chloe (the thin chick with brown hair) over any other porn queen...anybody who is so into it that their eyes cross at the, uhh, critical moment, is worth watching.
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Old 04-10-2003, 07:50 AM
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Does anything - check
I have seen about four movies with Jenna Jameson, but did she ever have anal sex in them? In the ones I saw, she definitely did not.
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I have seen about four movies with Jenna Jameson, but did she ever have anal sex in them? In the ones I saw, she definitely did not.
You haven't been watching the right ones. I've seen her take poundings that made my ass hurt just watching. I'm not a fan of butt porn.
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I think the only reason she comes across as smarter than most of her fellows in interviews is because she knows enough not to get all smacked up right before meeting the press. (It's amazing how many interviews I've seen with female PS's in which they are so obviously high.)

But I felt kind of sorry for her. I was watching her while standing in line, and she looked tired. Her smile was forced. Granted, while it's her choice to so relentlessly self-promote, and it has resulted in quite a bit of fame and I'm sure financial success for her, I got the feeling that sometimes she just really wants to not be Jenna Jameson for a while, and wipe off the 5 lbs. of make-up and just sit on the couch in sweatpants and eat all the ice cream she wants
You of course, have proof that Jameson is a heroin addict, right? Right?

Didn't think so. While she enjoys a glass of wine, she has never been addicted or even tried any of the drugs which you accuse her of being hooked on.

And she does in fact wear sweatpants and eat all the ice cream she wants.

And she is damn sure not the only celebrity who puts on the whole "fake smile" expression.

Jealously's an ugly thing.
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You of course, have proof that Jameson is a heroin addict, right? Right?

Didn't think so. While she enjoys a glass of wine, she has never been addicted or even tried any of the drugs which you accuse her of being hooked on.

And she does in fact wear sweatpants and eat all the ice cream she wants.
Cite?
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You of course, have proof that Jameson is a heroin addict, right? Right?

Jealously's an ugly thing.
I don't think Ratty was hinting that JJ is a heroin addict...I got the impression that Ratty meant simply that JJ was NOT HIGH while doing publicity like OTHER porn stars. That IF she did imbibe some sort of drug, she was at least smart enough NOT to have done said drug before being in the public eye.
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I'm a Jenna Jameson fan. I saw her first on the Howard Stern show. In her early appearances there, she was very winning -- she had a natural, relaxed way of talking, and seems to possess a certain amount of natural wit. Frankly, she seemed strangely nice for a porn star.

I also like her body. Artificial breasts don't bother me, so long as they don't become so large they make their wearer look deformed, as some do. Jameson isn't quite in that range, though one more enlargement and she would be.

I don't know what people's problem with Jenna's face is. True her eyes are kinda small, but that contributes to her pixieish charm.

I do wish she hadn't collagened up her lips -- her mouth was a lot more mobile and expressive -- and attractive -- before she had all that done.

Jenna's body is, as has been pointed out, smokin' hot. She has great hips, a great butt and a great pussy -- I mean, the woman has a beautiful pussy!

I don't care at all for her acting as a porn star -- all that moaning and looking into the distance with her mouth wide open just makes her look like she's having some kind of intestinal distress. And when she looks coyly at her costar as he's ramming her, it's totally bogus.

All in all, it was her appearance on the Stern show that brought her to my attention. She I don't know if I would have taken notice if I'd encountered her in porn first.
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You haven't been watching the right ones. I've seen her take poundings that made my ass hurt just watching. I'm not a fan of butt porn.
I've never seen any of her films, but like I said she did come to speak at my university. She was asked about whether she's able to maintain an intimate love life in her "real life," and she responded yes -- but to do so she has to draw limits for what she'll do in a porno. So she doesn't do anal scenes (or at least not any more), for example, since she considers that an intimate thing that she only shares with her boyfriend (she also said it's impossible for her to maintain relationships with a guy "not in the industry").

But I think she's able to make these kinds of demands because of her stature; she can dictate her own terms how she chooses. So I'm guessing there are many older films of her taking it in the backside, but according to her you won't see any recent ones.
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...but to do so she has to draw limits for what she'll do in a porno. So she doesn't do anal scenes (or at least not any more), for example, since she considers that an intimate thing that she only shares with her boyfriend...
Well, I've been wrong before.

I could have sworn it was her, but it was a long time ago.
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(she also said it's impossible for her to maintain relationships with a guy "not in the industry").
Is it an emotional issue or a "physical" issue?
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Apologies in advance...

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I mean, the woman has a beautiful pussy!
Cite?
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Cite?


How about here (no dirty images)?
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But I think she's able to make these kinds of demands because of her stature; she can dictate her own terms how she chooses. So I'm guessing there are many older films of her taking it in the backside, but according to her you won't see any recent ones.
Actually it wasn't until she'd been in the biz for about 6 years that she did her first anal scene. And if I recall correctly, she hasn't done very many anal scenes.
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How about here (no dirty images)?
Damn! That chick looks like a porn star!

Stop me. Please.
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Are we still talking about this chick? The answer to her popularity was posted days ago:


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I think her appeal largely derives from her willingness to have various organs rammed into her vagina before a camera.

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That, or her singing career.
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I'm going to chime in and say it's because she's hot and she puts out.
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Is it an emotional issue or a "physical" issue?
She explained that it was because "guys not in the industry" can't really understand the profession, or end up getting jealous, etc.

And when asked the age old question, she explained that "Yes, size does matter."
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Size matters when you can ram a Volkswagen in your pussy.
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Are we still talking about this chick? The answer to her popularity was posted days ago:
No, it wasn't. The question clearly implied why Jenna Jameson is so much more popular than other porn stars, all of whom are willing to have various things rammed in various places, many of whom are as attractive as Jameson.

Jameson's popularity has to do with her ability to project a certain quality of intelligence and friendliness, as well as the other stuff that consist of the baseline appeal of porn stars in general.
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And when asked the age old question, she explained that "Yes, size does matter."
Gee, superficiality from a porn star? Who'da thunk it?!
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