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Old 08-23-2004, 08:54 PM
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What is the etymology of ''-abad'' and ''-grad?''

And do they have any cognates?

"-abad" appears in several place names in Pakistan. And "-grad" is a common suffix in Slavic countries.
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Old 08-23-2004, 09:11 PM
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And do they have any cognates?

"-abad" appears in several place names in Pakistan. And "-grad" is a common suffix in Slavic countries.
"Grad" means "town" in many Slavic languages.
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Old 08-23-2004, 09:15 PM
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Found a little more info: "-abad" is from Farsi, and means "populated" or "settled."

"Grad" can also mean castle or city in various Slavic languages.

It's a similar ending to the German "-burg."
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Old 08-23-2004, 09:21 PM
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"-abad" appears in several place names in Pakistan.
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The Persian abad karna (to cultivate, to settle) is the origin of abadi (small settlement, population) and of the suffix abad attached to the name of the towns founder.
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Old 08-23-2004, 09:23 PM
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Pulykamell beat me to it. I should note that the Russian for "city" is gorod and -grad as a city-name ending is based on the early Slavic from which Russian is descended, much like -bury and -boro are derived from Anglo-Saxon burh which survives as English borough.

French -ville has a similar sense, as of course does German -burg (but -berg, with almost identical English pronunciation, is different, meaning literally "mountain" and with the city-name connotation of "city that was founded as a fortified high spot"). Cognates to -bury and -burg exist in the Scandinavian languages as well.

BTW, note that the -abad suffix, with pretty much the same meaning, also exists in several of the Central Asian republics.
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Similar to the Greek -polis, as used in Minneapolis, Indianapolis, Metropolis, ... and no doubt many more city names.
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abad is pretty similar to the English abide, isn't it? The OED says the root of abide is the Old English abiden. Interesting stuff, though any connection would be unprovable...
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:23 AM
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abad is pretty similar to the English abide, isn't it? The OED says the root of abide is the Old English abiden. Interesting stuff, though any connection would be unprovable...
And even more similar to the English abode, in terms of pronounciation. A common root probably isn't unprovable, due to Farsi/Urdu and English having the same root language family.
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Interestingly, the -abad and -grad suffixes came together, in a sense, in the old Soviet Union. We all know about Leningrad, now St. Petersburg, but there were towns named "Leninabad" in the Soviet Republics (now independent states) of Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.

http://calle.com/world/UZ/6/Leninabad.html

http://calle.com/world/TI/0/Leninabad.html

Also: Dushanbe, the capital of Tajikistan, was once known as Stalinabad.
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