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Old 02-04-2005, 03:56 PM
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M*A*S*H hometowns

Right now I'm working in Ottumwa, IA-- hometown of Radar O'Reilly-- and it got me thinking about other hometowns of MASH characters. So I did a little searching to find out where the other characters were from, to see how many of the towns I've actually been to.

Here's a list of the characters and their hometowns


So far, I've been to:

Bloomington, IL (Henry Blake)
Fort Wayne, IN (Frank Burns)
Ottumwa, IA (Radar O'Reilly)
Toledo, OH (Max Klinger)


Only four. And I'm pretty much stuck in the Midwest. I'm sure other wider-travelled Dopers'll have me beat.

BTW, how were these towns picked? Writers' hometowns? Actors' hometowns? Arbitrary?



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Old 02-04-2005, 04:38 PM
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Cities I've been to:Bloomington, IL (Blake)
Fort Wayne, IN (Burns)
Hannibal, MO (Potter)
Philadelphia, PA (Mulcahy)

Cities that are close to places I've been:
Ft. Ord, CA (Hotlips) (adjacent to Monterey, CA)
Mill Valley, CA (BJ) (adjacent to Sausalito, CA)
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Old 02-04-2005, 05:50 PM
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Hawkeye was from Crabapple Cove, Maine (regardless of a few "Vermont" mistakes in the first season of the TV series.

Trapper John was from Boston, Mass (as was Charles)
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Old 02-04-2005, 06:07 PM
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I've only been to two...

Ft. Ord, CA (Margaret Houlihan), of course base is closed and it's now home to CSU Monterey Bay

Mill Valley, CA (BJ Hunnicut)
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Old 02-04-2005, 06:32 PM
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BTW, how were these towns picked? Writers' hometowns? Actors' hometowns? Arbitrary?
The hometowns of Hawkeye and Radar were from the novel. Also in the novel, Trapper came from Winchester, Massachusetts, a suburb of Boston. McLean Stevenson was from Bloomington, IL (well, actually from Normal, but that's about the same thing). Jamie Farr is from Toledo.

Is there really a Crabapple Cove, ME? I can't find it with either maps.yahoo or with mapquest.

I've been to Hannibal and Bloomington.
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Old 02-04-2005, 06:47 PM
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Is there really a Crabapple Cove, ME? I can't find it with either maps.yahoo or with mapquest.
Nope, it's a pseudonym for Wiscasset ME, where Richard Hooker lives (lived).
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Old 02-04-2005, 07:02 PM
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There is no Crabapple Cove. There is a Muscongus Bay, which, in one episode, Hawkeye calls "home". I always figured Crabapple Cove was supposed to be Bremen, ME. Wiscasset isn't on Muscongus Bay, at any rate. (The author's real name is Richard Hornberger, btw). It was my understanding that Hornberger lived and practiced in Bremen prior to the war, and then set up shop in Waterville after the war.
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Old 02-04-2005, 10:11 PM
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Hawkeye: Crabapple Cover, ME - No
Trapper John: Boston, MA - Yes
Henry Blake: Bloomington, IL - Yes
Frank Burns: Fort Wayne, IN - Yes
Hotlips: Fort Ord, CA - No
Radar: Ottumwa, IA - Yes
Sherman Potter: Hannibal, MO - Yes
BJ Hunnicutt: Mill Valley, CA - No
Charles Winchester: Boston, MA - Yes
Klinger: Toledo, OH - Yes
Father Mulcahy: Philadelphia, PA - Yes

8 out of 11.

I get around.
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Old 02-05-2005, 01:24 AM
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The closest I've ever been was to Ogden, Utah.

A bit of 7 degrees to get there... I worked for a company that owned Winchester. Maj. Charles Emerson Winchester was played by David Ogden Stiers.

Ok, it's the only way I could get in this game!

Except there was Toledo, OH and Fort Wayne, IN
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found crabapple cove

I found Crabapple cove! I think... The author supposedly lived on Muscongus Bay. There is an island in Muscongus Bay named Crabapple Island. This island has a 'cove'. Thus, Crabapple Island Cove. Voila! Just type Muscongus Bay into Google Earth, and it will take you there. Just drag the map downward, and the island will appear.

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(Thank you Jonathan Chance):

Hawkeye: Crabapple Cover, ME - No, but have been to Wicasset
Trapper John: Boston, MA - Yes
Henry Blake: Bloomington, IL - Yes, if driving through counts as "been there".
Frank Burns: Fort Wayne, IN - No
Hotlips: Fort Ord, CA - No
Radar: Ottumwa, IA - No
Sherman Potter: Hannibal, MO - Yes
BJ Hunnicutt: Mill Valley, CA - No
Charles Winchester: Boston, MA - Yes
Klinger: Toledo, OH - Yes, if driving through counts as...
Father Mulcahy: Philadelphia, PA - Yes
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Old 05-12-2016, 04:55 PM
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Uh...never mind...

Never mind. In my excitement, I misread the name. It's Cranberry Island...
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Old 05-12-2016, 05:03 PM
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Hawkeye: Crabapple Cover, ME - No
Trapper John: Boston, MA - Yes
Henry Blake: Bloomington, IL - No
Frank Burns: Fort Wayne, IN - Yes
Hotlips: Fort Ord, CA - No
Radar: Ottumwa, IA - No
Sherman Potter: Hannibal, MO - No
BJ Hunnicutt: Mill Valley, CA - Only driven through
Charles Winchester: Boston, MA - Yes
Klinger: Toledo, OH - Yes
Father Mulcahy: Philadelphia, PA - Yes
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Never mind. In my excitement, I misread the name. It's Cranberry Island...
That's ok. In the books Trapper and his wife like to "romp" on a blanket in the cranberry bogs.
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Old 05-12-2016, 05:53 PM
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The two from Boston plus Phillie for days at a time.

Drive thru Toledo.

Skirted Mill Valley on 101. Might not have been all that close to 101 when I went thru.
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Old 05-12-2016, 06:59 PM
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I work for the Mill Valley Film Festival, so have logged tons of time there.

Also been to Fort Ord, Boston, and Philly, and while I haven't been to the other hometowns, I've been to every state represented in that list except Iowa.
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My mom is from Fort Wayne, but left to CA decades ago - she lives just below Ft Ord. But maybe 25 years ago she was home as her mother's illness became terminal.

While at the hospital in Fort Wayne, she swears she heard a woman over the intercom ask for "Dr Burns; Dr Frank Burns". She was not in a humorous mood given the circumstances but hard not to chuckle.
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Slight hijack: when Murder She Wrote was still a fairly new show, my friend asked me if Hawkeye Pierce was from the same hometown as Jessica Fletcher (Cabot Cove, ME). "If that's true, then they just gotta mention a crazy old Doctor Pierce!"

"No, kiddo," says I. "Jessica lives in CABOT Cove. Hawkeye was from CRABAPPLE Cove."

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Ever been to Tony Packos for a hotdog in Toledo?

Or Adams' Ribs in Chicago? I'm not sure if Adam's Ribs is/was a real joint or not, but I know Tony Packos is.

http://tonypacko.com

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Tony Packo has some great pickles and relishes.
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Old 05-12-2016, 10:40 PM
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We've driven through Toledo at least once but not at the right time of day for a food stop.
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I'm not sure if Adam's Ribs is/was a real joint or not
Likely not in the Fifties but the name has since been co-opted by a real joint.

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Old 05-12-2016, 10:48 PM
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heh I was born in the fort ord hospital

Suposedly theres mentions of me a couple times in the fort news as being the first preemie born in the what was then newly new installed neo natal icu in the hospital

and then it was news too when I left still breathing ..........
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Old 05-13-2016, 11:15 AM
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I was born in Toledo and lived in Ft. Wayne for many years.
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Old 05-13-2016, 11:47 AM
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McLean Stevenson was actually born in Bloomington/Normal Ill. (sister cites)

My Dad lived on the same block as him.
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Old 05-13-2016, 12:19 PM
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Wasn't Capt. Tuttle from Battle Creek, MI?

If so...well, I got nuttin'. I've never been to Battle Creek, MI.
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You can't be "from" Ft Ord; it's not a town (unlike, say, Fort Wayne). It's a now-defunct Army base. Hot Lips may have gone through basic training there, or may have been born on the base hospital; but the nearest towns are Monterey and Seaside, CA.

(Born on the Monterey Peninsula, and lived for several years in Mill Valley)
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Old 05-13-2016, 12:27 PM
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Wow this thread is a blast from my past. I was working in Ottumwa 11 years ago. Longest month of my life. (Had to drive 45 minutes out of town to get cell phone service.)

Anyhoo...
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Old 05-13-2016, 12:54 PM
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Wow, been to every one other then the made up Crabapple Cove, but been to several coastal towns in Maine. In 35 years of over the road trucking I made at least one pick up or delivery in all of those places.
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Old 05-13-2016, 12:59 PM
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You can't be "from" Ft Ord; it's not a town (unlike, say, Fort Wayne). It's a now-defunct Army base. Hot Lips may have gone through basic training there, or may have been born on the base hospital; but the nearest towns are Monterey and Seaside, CA.

(Born on the Monterey Peninsula, and lived for several years in Mill Valley)
Margaret's father was in the Army, so she may have grown up on base, in base family housing, mightn't she?
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If I can count Moneterey for Fort Ord and going past the Mill Valley turnoff on Highway 101, then I've been to all of them excpet Maine.

Ottumwa's not that bad. Or, I should say, I've been to plenty of places in Iowa much worse than Ottumwa.
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Margaret's father was in the Army, so she may have grown up on base, in base family housing, mightn't she?
Plausible....although one would think she'd be more likely to name her home as "Army brat".
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Plausible....although one would think she'd be more likely to name her home as "Army brat".
Yeah. But she may just as easily think of home as "wherever Dad is stationed right now" or "That place where I spent my happiest years as a child" - and Fort Ord could be either of those.
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Wasn't Capt. Tuttle from Battle Creek, MI?

If so...well, I got nuttin'. I've never been to Battle Creek, MI.
I've been to Battle Creek, MI. It is home to an old client, the Defense Logistics Agency's disposition services. They set up shop in the old Kellogg Brothers building, originally a sanitarium which eventually morphed into a breakfast food empire. Very historic and interesting!

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If I can count Moneterey for Fort Ord and going past the Mill Valley turnoff on Highway 101, then I've been to all of them excpet Maine.

Ottumwa's not that bad. Or, I should say, I've been to plenty of places in Iowa much worse than Ottumwa.
Nice loose meats. Lousy cell phone service (at least 11 years ago).
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Margaret's father was in the Army, so she may have grown up on base, in base family housing, mightn't she?
Which father: the dead one she mentioned to a dance partner at a party or the live one that showed up near the end of the run?
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Which father: the dead one she mentioned to a dance partner at a party or the live one that showed up near the end of the run?
Margaret's father was dead early on in the series, and Hawkeye's mother alive (and he had a sister); by the end of the series, Margaret's father was alive, and Hawkeye's mother had died well before the war, and Hawkeye was an only child. The only solution - time travel! This also explains how the series lasted so much longer than the actual war...
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I greatly prefer the theory that each season takes place within its own slightly alternate reality.
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Boston
Fort Ord
Ottumwa
Mill Valley
Toledo

Won't Cap't James T. Kirk be born in Ottumwa? I thought it a fine small town, it's not Iowa City but just about anywhere in Iowa is a nice place to live.
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Won't Cap't James T. Kirk be born in Ottumwa? I thought it a fine small town, it's not Iowa City but just about anywhere in Iowa is a nice place to live.
Riverside, Iowa claims to be Kirk's birthplace.
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I greatly prefer the theory that each season takes place within its own slightly alternate reality.
That could work. The same may be true of the Andy Griffith show. In the last episode of one season, after all, a group of bank robbers pretended to be movie producers who were planning on filming a movie in Mayberry, while in the first episode of the next season, the same actors played actual movie producers planning to make a movie in Mayberry.
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Riverside, Iowa claims to be Kirk's birthplace.
Would that be James T. Kirk? Maybe James R. Kirk was born in Ottumwa?

(I've got a million of 'em. )
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I was born and raised in Bloomington, IL, home of real life McLean Stevenson and fictional Henry Blake.
Bonus trivia: Bloomington is in McLean county
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So no one has ever been in Honolulu? (Nurse Kellye)
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So no one has ever been in Honolulu? (Nurse Kellye)
I have been to Honolulu a couple of times. I live in the Boston area and I have been to Philadelphia. Count me out on the rest.
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They frequently mentioned Tokyo. I've been there.
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Old 05-17-2016, 12:56 PM
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Hawkeye: Crabapple Cover, ME - No
Trapper John: Boston, MA - Yes
Henry Blake: Bloomington, IL - No
Frank Burns: Fort Wayne, IN - No
Hotlips: Fort Ord, CA - No
Radar: Ottumwa, IA - No
Sherman Potter: Hannibal, MO - Yes
BJ Hunnicutt: Mill Valley, CA - No
Charles Winchester: Boston, MA - Yes
Klinger: Toledo, OH - Yes
Father Mulcahy: Philadelphia, PA - Yes

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The only one I've been to is Bloomington, IL.

And Burbank, CA. I don't know if it was ever mentioned as someone's hometown, but it was on the sign. Igor, maybe?
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