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Old 02-03-2007, 01:38 PM
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Origin of "psyche!" or "sike!"

does anyone know the origin of the term "psyche!" like
"I got a new car."
"really?"
"PSYCHE!"
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:43 PM
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Short for 'I psyched you out!', which is much easier to say than 'I have played a psychological game, and you believed what I said was true!'
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:47 PM
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The idea is tantalizing enough for me to venture some guesses, none of which is more than that. I don't use, nor have I used, the expression, but I have heard younger people (as in my kids) say things like that in the past. Surely other younger Dopers will get closer than this stab.

I suppose "psycho" as a synonym for "crazy" would be in the ballpark, and "crazy" as a substitute for "exciting" or "terrific" is something I do recall using. So to go from "psycho" to "psyche" isn't too big a stretch, I'd say.

Also, the "psyche" from "psyche out" for "surprise" or "render speechless" might have a similar basis. A similar shortening might come about the same way that the Beatles used "gear" for "great."

Just stabs.
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:51 PM
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Hah! Johnny L.A didn't get it first:
Psych-Out (1968)
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:54 PM
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The term was very popular in the mid-1980's if that helps dispel any myths about it being new.
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:08 PM
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Hah! Johnny L.A didn't get it first:
My definition is the way we used it in the late-'70s.
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:25 PM
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When I was in elementary school in the early- to late-70s, the phrase we used was "Psych your mind, twenty-five times!"
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Old 02-03-2007, 03:13 PM
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From dictionary-com.

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psych1 /saɪk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sahyk] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object) Informal.
1. to intimidate or frighten psychologically, or make nervous (often fol. by out): to psych out the competition.
2. to prepare psychologically to be in the right frame of mind or to give one's best (often fol. by up): to psych oneself up for an interview.
3. to figure out psychologically; decipher (often fol. by out): to psych out a problem.
Also, psyche.

[Origin: 1915–20 in earlier sense “to subject to psychoanalysis”; orig. a shortening of psychoanalyze; in later use (especially in defs. 1 and 2) perh. independent use of psych-]
I would say from my recollection sense #1 goes back at least to the 1960s.
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Old 02-03-2007, 03:16 PM
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According to the Online Etymology Dictionary the sense used in the OP goes back to at least 1934:


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psych
short for psychology in various senses; as an academic study, in student slang by 1895. The verb is generally negative when used transitively, positive when intransitive; first attested (also psych out) 1934 as "to outsmart," from 1963 as "to unnerve." However to psych (oneself) up is from 1972; to be psyched up is attested from 1968.
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:26 PM
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According to the Online Etymology Dictionary the sense used in the OP goes back to at least 1934:
I can't find it that early. I wonder what their cite is?
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:34 PM
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"A lovely young lady named Psyche
Is loved by a fellow named Yche.
One thing about Ych
That she doesn't lych
Is his beard, which is terribly spyche."
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I can't find it that early. I wonder what their cite is?
For psyche (in that sense) or psyche out? It's unclear from the reference which they mean.

What's the earliest you have for psyche-out? What's the earliest for psyche in the sense used in the OP?
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Old 02-04-2007, 12:33 PM
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"Sike!" as the OP uses it means, "I fooled you."

I'm sure it's as old as the hills, but I think it really went (inter)national after Eddie Murphy released Comedian, which has a skit called "Ice Cream Man." At one point he mimics a kid who has ice cream, which the friend he's taunting has none. He offers the ice cream cone - "Want a lick?" then yanks it back, yelling "Sike!"

After that, all the kids used that term for at least five years (I was 11 at the time). Not so much anymore.
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