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Old 03-21-2010, 04:09 PM
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"Star Trek" fans: Loose threads/unanswered questions?

What loose threads or unanswered questions from any ST series or movie still intrigue you? If one was later addressed in a book, what was the book, and the answer? (Put the actual answer in a spoiler box, please). Did you agree with the author's non-canon answer?
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There was one episode in the original series where Kirk strands a bunch of crewmen on a planet while he goes off to complete the mission. He never goes back for them. What happened to them?
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Old 03-21-2010, 04:45 PM
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Species 8472 lived in fluidic space.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_8472

I'd love to see a movie that explored that further.

Species 8472 were bad ass. They blew up Borg Cubes with no problem.
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What happened to the little Borg baby on Voyager when they come across the crippled ship with the Borg kids (Ichep et al) on it?
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Old 03-21-2010, 04:58 PM
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Species 8472 lived in fluidic space.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_8472

I'd love to see a movie that explored that further.

Species 8472 were bad ass. They blew up Borg Cubes with no problem.
There's a lot of this explored in the new STO MMORPG. Of course, it's not explored well, but frankly most storylines that take a long time aren't explored well in multi-series, multi-producer, multi-etc franchises.


I'd like to know a little bit more about some of Picard's going-ons, TNG had a lot of one-off episodes that begged for follow ups. Stuff like the Binaries, the woman who molded herself to Picard, etc.
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Old 03-21-2010, 05:07 PM
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Speaking of TNG what about those parasites that sent a homing beacon out after Picard went admiral murdering*? It always seemed to be dying for a follow up.

*note I don't remember if he actually murdered any of the admirals. Only that annoying inspector guy that had the mother creature inside of him.
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Old 03-21-2010, 05:13 PM
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Speaking of TNG what about those parasites that sent a homing beacon out after Picard went admiral murdering*? It always seemed to be dying for a follow up.
The plotline idea evolved into the Borg and was abandoned after it was introduced.
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The plotline idea evolved into the Borg and was abandoned after it was introduced.
Shame. It would have been interesting.
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I've wondered how things evolved on the planet that based it's culture on Al Capone and Chicago gangs. McCoy left behind a communicator or tricorder? when they beamed up.
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Old 03-21-2010, 05:21 PM
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Oh to to add my own. What about the planet with the telekinetic mind-control Roman-ish folks. They figured out it took about 5 seconds to fabricate the compound, and a couple hours to take effect, to gain a freakin superpower, but nobody bothered with it?
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I'd like it if Dela had not died out with her race, but ended up having Kirk's child (but who is also "accelerated") and then Kirk and Jr could have met somewhere...

Also, whatever happens to Miri? She'd be an interesting character to follow. And the kids who lost their parents.

There are story lines I would love to see developed: Spock and Nurse Chapel, for one. Sulu is left on the planet surface and dies a slow, lingering death from cold (I'm not a fan of Sulu--the character is ok, but the actor really gets on my nerves). McCoy goes back to that asteroid/planet and meets Ms Hottie again (can't remember her name) and finds out she's had his child. Oh, and the last plot line: Kirk time travels back to earth in season 2 and finds me--and we'll leave the rest of that to the imagination.
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Old 03-21-2010, 06:34 PM
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The spores in TOS "This Side of Paradise" gave everyone perfect health - Sandoval even grew back his appendix! The Federation should establish a clinic on the planet, with a space station in orbit: beam down, get sprayed by the spores and healed of whatever ails ya, then after a blissful week (or two weeks, or a month, or however long you've paid for) you're beamed up, smacked a few times to make you mad and shake off the effects of the spores, and boom, you're good to go....
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:54 PM
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Shame. It would have been interesting.
The Borg were originally supposed to be insects (& related to the parasites), but they couldn't afford all the puppetry and SFX that would've involved so they became cyborgs instead (they kept the hive-mind part).
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:26 PM
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In TNG they discover that warp is destroying the environment. They don't really do much with it.
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:57 PM
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They had to go no faster than Warp 5 (barring emergencies) for awhile, but then they mentioned in passing that their engines could be redesigned to avoid causing damage. =Whew!= Crisis averted.
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Old 03-21-2010, 11:25 PM
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I was always hoping to find out what happened to "The Sisko" after he bonded with the Prophets in the wormhole.
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Old 03-21-2010, 11:29 PM
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In Star Trek IV McCoy gives the woman in the hospital a pill to grow back her kidney.

Did they adapt that technology from the spore planet organ-growing ability?
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I've mentioned this in another thread, but we never saw why Q feared Guinan when they met on The Enterprise.
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Old 03-22-2010, 02:19 AM
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Speaking of TNG what about those parasites that sent a homing beacon out after Picard went admiral murdering*? It always seemed to be dying for a follow up.

*note I don't remember if he actually murdered any of the admirals. Only that annoying inspector guy that had the mother creature inside of him.
This was followed up in the DS9 "Relaunch" series and paid off in "Unity".

SPOILER:
The big mama of the creatures ends up getting introduced to Bajoran justice and finds itself in a white void... which is filled with all the Jem'Hadar that Sisko made disappear in Season 6. The Jem'Hadar have fun.
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Old 03-22-2010, 02:53 AM
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I was always hoping to find out what happened to "The Sisko" after he bonded with the Prophets in the wormhole.
Yep.

Pretty much the only series with a cliffhanger was DS9. I've heard rumors that Trek has done something similar to Buffy season 8 with novels instead of graphic novels but I haven't examined it closely yet...
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Old 03-23-2010, 11:07 AM
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Those parasites have been followed up on in a ton of the books, IIRC, including the DS9 relaunches.

There was a connection made between them and the Trill in the Mission Gamma series, part of the DS9 relaunch. I'll refrain from spoilering any more than that.

The one thing I wish they'd stop following up on is the Mirror Universe. Fantastic once. Great twice. OK the 3rd time, maybe. But now enough is enough. (and that's coming from a diehard DS9 fan and an enthusiastic Enterprise fan).
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Old 03-23-2010, 11:11 AM
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The one thing I wish they'd stop following up on is the Mirror Universe. Fantastic once. Great twice. OK the 3rd time, maybe. But now enough is enough. (and that's coming from a diehard DS9 fan and an enthusiastic Enterprise fan).
Personally, any plot that gets Kira in the black leather is a good thing.
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Old 03-23-2010, 11:27 AM
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I love the Mirror Universe, in all its incarnations. It gives the writers a chance to let their hair down and just go nuts. The books are especially fun.......TRM (and Kira in leather...!!)
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Old 03-23-2010, 11:33 AM
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The one thing I wish they'd stop following up on is the Mirror Universe. Fantastic once. Great twice. OK the 3rd time, maybe. But now enough is enough. (and that's coming from a diehard DS9 fan and an enthusiastic Enterprise fan).
The evil Enterprise opening theme was fantastic, though. Go forth and kick ass, Humans!
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Old 03-23-2010, 11:41 AM
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I was always hoping to find out what happened to "The Sisko" after he bonded with the Prophets in the wormhole.
Yea, also did Odo ever make it back to the Great Link.
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Yea, also did Odo ever make it back to the Great Link.
That was one of the last shots of the series finale - a Tuxedo-clad Odo merging with the Link while a teary Kira looked on. Shame - if anyone deserved to get the girl, it was Odo.
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I've wondered how things evolved on the planet that based it's culture on Al Capone and Chicago gangs. McCoy left behind a communicator or tricorder? when they beamed up.
If I recall correctly, they addressed this in the animated series. They returned to the planet to find it completely done over on the model of Star Fleet.
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smacked a few times to make you mad and shake off the effects of the spores,
Nah, just seeing the bill would take care of that.
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That was one of the last shots of the series finale - a Tuxedo-clad Odo merging with the Link while a teary Kira looked on. Shame - if anyone deserved to get the girl, it was Odo.
Oh yea, I misremembered. Gonna have to rewatch DS9 one of these days.
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Old 03-23-2010, 12:24 PM
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If I recall correctly, they addressed this in the animated series. They returned to the planet to find it completely done over on the model of Star Fleet.
I think that might've happened in one of the comic books, but it definitely wasn't in ST:TAS.
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I've wondered how things evolved on the planet that based it's culture on Al Capone and Chicago gangs. McCoy left behind a communicator or tricorder? when they beamed up.
I read a DC comic where they retained the Chicago mob culture and handed the communicator back to Bones years later.

I also read some Trek manual that had them evolved into a Star Fleet-based culture with tricorders and uniforms.

Both are non canon, I presume.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:03 PM
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I've wondered how things evolved on the planet that based it's culture on Al Capone and Chicago gangs. McCoy left behind a communicator or tricorder? when they beamed up.
They did indeed do over their planet to look like Starfleet.

It's in one of the Star Trek Guides to Alien Species or something, complete with a drawing of a guy in a pseudo Starfleet uniform, which is what everyone on the planet wears now.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:16 PM
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I was always hoping to find out what happened to "The Sisko" after he bonded with the Prophets in the wormhole.
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Yea, also did Odo ever make it back to the Great Link.
Followed up on in the DS9 relaunch series of novels, essentially a non-canon season eight. It all comes together in the aforementioned novel Unity, by S. D. Perry. I'm not going to spoil the novels, but any DS9 fan owes it to himself or herself to read them. They bring a very satisfying closure to the series.
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They bring a very satisfying closure to the series.
I didn't want @#$! closure, I wanted movies!
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I've mentioned this in another thread, but we never saw why Q feared Guinan when they met on The Enterprise.
Seriously? Damn. I was looking forward to that being developed. I am watching TNG for (really) the first time. I never paid much attention to it when it was on the air the first time around. The station is airing them all out of order, which also bugs me.

I have come to hate Q, then be intrigued by him, then to find him annoying and then back to "hate" (more like impatience, although the actor is good). I do like Troi's mother (Nurse Chapel in another incarnation. I mean Majel Barret).
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How many children did Captain Kirk sire and when did he make his last child support payment?
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I want to know what Scotty's doing after they rescued him from the Dyson Sphere

What kind of civilization created that probe in "The Inner Light"? Where was this world located?

Did they ever figure out where the Organians went?

Was the old guy who destroyed the Hussnak (sp?) race a Q, or an offshoot of Q?

What is the status of the Tribble race now? Didn't Sisko bring some back from the past? Have they spread?

What exactly was the Crystalline Entity?

What is Q and Guinan's history?

Even though I hate him, what kind of weird adventures is Wesley Crusher getting into with the Traveler?

Speaking of the Traveler, one of the episodes once had some kind of weird malfunction, catapulting the Enterprise to a place billions of light years away from the Alpha Quadrant. It looks like they were inside giant crystals. What the hell is that??

I find it hard to believe that with the amount of times Kirk, Picard, Sisko, and Archer traveled through time, it never happened with any Romulans or Klingons or Cardassians or any of the other hundreds of space-faring races. You know none of the have a temporal Prime Directive. How come Romulans haven't stolen tech from the future yet? Or modified their past to make them the dominant species in the galaxy?

Speaking of time traveling, some guy from the 22nd century once stole a 26th century time machine from a time traveler, then got himself captured by Picard. What happened to that technology? What about that guy?

Did Starfleet ever figure out the connection of why Sisko looks exactly like Gabriel Bell?

More Section 31!
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Speaking of time traveling, some guy from the 22nd century once stole a 26th century time machine from a time traveler, then got himself captured by Picard. What happened to that technology? What about that guy?
I just saw this one yesterday, so allow me. The technology - the time pod - was always scheduled to return to the 22nd century. That's why Rasmussen kept checking his watch-ring. Once they had him in the cargo bay, it vanished with him outside.

They then escorted him to the brig, and Picard said there were lots of 24th century historians that would be interested in talking to him once they get to Starbase whatever. The implication of that line as well as the follow-up "Welcome to the 24th Century, professor" and his look of worry leads me to believe he's locked up somewhere.


My main question from TNG is why they never use any of the damn technology they encounter. Worst example, when Barclay turns into a super-human and sends them light years away to encounter those beings, they had a "sharing of technology" between their people. No Treaty violations or anything. OK, so why can't all starships travel as fast as Barclay was able to make them travel? He even invented some technology in the Holodeck - what happened to it?
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There was one episode in the original series where Kirk strands a bunch of crewmen on a planet while he goes off to complete the mission. He never goes back for them. What happened to them?
Which was that? There was an episode where he beams down two crewmen, but then finds out their position over a planet was an illusion (And the children shall lead) and they've been beamed into space.

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I've wondered how things evolved on the planet that based it's culture on Al Capone and Chicago gangs. McCoy left behind a communicator or tricorder? when they beamed up.
The DS9 episode Trials and Tribble-ations was a 30th anniversary celebration episode for Star Trek. IIRC the show's producers had also considered a return to the Iotians, who have somehow reverse engineered McCoy's communicator to become a planet of geeks, in a send up of Trek fandom.

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Oh to to add my own. What about the planet with the telekinetic mind-control Roman-ish folks. They figured out it took about 5 seconds to fabricate the compound, and a couple hours to take effect, to gain a freakin superpower, but nobody bothered with it?
Yes that, the spores, the water on Scalos, why not the extra organ that Apollo used to control his temple's power? Humans might have become a pretty tough race by the time they met the Borg in TNG, but instead they became philosophers who had rejected genetic engineering to the degree that they didn't even allow a cure for baldness.

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I've mentioned this in another thread, but we never saw why Q feared Guinan when they met on The Enterprise.
They really left it dangling, but I got the impression that she annoyed him more than instilled fear. Perhaps he'd met someone who could out debate him like Picard?

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I read a DC comic where they retained the Chicago mob culture and handed the communicator back to Bones years later.
I think that was part of the trial of James Kirk. The issue I picked up also made mention of Friday's Child and A Taste of Armageddon, where the two planets Vendikar and Eminar eventually did go to war and caused much carnage.

I wish I had picked up more issues of that one, the stories it looked back on weren't cliff hangers exactly, but it was interesting to speculate on what happened after Kirk et al left orbit.

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Discovering the joys of synthohol, not having so many hang overs and getting down to a few projects he'd always meant to finish off

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Speaking of time traveling, some guy from the 22nd century once stole a 26th century time machine from a time traveler, then got himself captured by Picard. What happened to that technology? What about that guy?
The time machine itself returned to the 22nd century alone. IIRC, the guy tried to make off with Data and some other technologies but was thwarted. After seeing his machine pop off in time without him, Picard reassured him that the 24th century's historians would like to talk to him about the past. Which I assume was meant to be slightly ironic.
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Gnng, beaten to the punch.

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My main question from TNG is why they never use any of the damn technology they encounter
The only time it seemed to make sense was when they encountered the Borg in Best of Both Worlds. Not having the Borg network to make the bits taken out of Picard work, I guess they were pretty useless.

Unless someone wants to go back and write a story based around the Voyager Borg and have some nanites dormant in Picard pop up and cause trouble.
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I want to know what Scotty's doing after they rescued him from the Dyson Sphere
I always wanted to know what happened to the Dyson sphere itself. Although I vaguely recall seeing a ST book on the topic.

Not that I would read ST books. *hides John M Ford books*

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My main question from TNG is why they never use any of the damn technology they encounter. Worst example, when Barclay turns into a super-human and sends them light years away to encounter those beings, they had a "sharing of technology" between their people. No Treaty violations or anything. OK, so why can't all starships travel as fast as Barclay was able to make them travel? He even invented some technology in the Holodeck - what happened to it?
The answer to any dangling plot-thread related to the holodeck is always the same: the holodeck safeties went offline, and it went berserk, killing several crewmembers you've never seen before but who were very, very important to people whom you have seen before (but nevertheless, not so much that they'd ever fix the damn holodeck safeties).

Given it's Reg, and knowing his predilections, he's lucky that thing didn't go berserk on him next time he tried to pitch woo on the holodeck.

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My main question from TNG is why they never use any of the damn technology they encounter. Worst example, when Barclay turns into a super-human and sends them light years away to encounter those beings, they had a "sharing of technology" between their people. No Treaty violations or anything. OK, so why can't all starships travel as fast as Barclay was able to make them travel? He even invented some technology in the Holodeck - what happened to it?
Enterprise was a federation star ship. It was engineered and built according to specifications. Geordi can't tinker with it. There was one episode in Season 3 (Booby Trap) where he modifies the warp coil. Then in season 4 (Galaxy's Child) Dr. Leah Brahms beams aboard upset about the modifications (she was the original designer).

That's one reason I liked Voyager. Janeway jury rigged all kinds of alien crap onto her star ship. The federation was a hundred light years away and couldn't complain.

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Unless someone wants to go back and write a story based around the Voyager Borg and have some nanites dormant in Picard pop up and cause trouble.
Voyager used some Borg warp tunneling technology.
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That's one reason I liked Voyager.
We are the only two 'Dopers who liked Voyager. We should form a protective club.
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Speaking of Voyager, what ever happened to Pharis & Janeway's lizard children?
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Do female and male Vulcans have humanoid style sexual plumbing? This was intimated but never confirmed.

Never got a handle on the hierarchies and power rankings of the "entity" level races and intelligences.

Unsatisfactory explanation of how Kirk was able to shrug off the effect of the alien princesses' tears that normally enslaved lesser men.

Were Vulcans physically better at everything or did humans have any edge in anything?

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Did Starfleet ever figure out the connection of why Sisko looks exactly like Gabriel Bell?
I don't know if Starfleet ever did, but Nog once discovered the resemblance. (In "Little Green Men", I think.)

While we're speaking of Star Trek novels, which I also don't read *hides copy of Imzadi II: Elecrtric Boogaloo* these are some of my favourite titles. Who can forget the classics Worf Vs The Pretty Flowers or Collectable Plate.
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Do female and male Vulcans have humanoid style sexual plumbing? This was intimated but never confirmed.
After T'Pol's (Jolene Blalock) outfits in Enterprise, what more confirmation do you need?

I mean, the outfit was literally skin tight. I'm pretty sure you could see the moles on her ass through that thing.
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Raise the shields for Voyager.
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