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Old 10-13-2010, 12:51 PM
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Jukebox: $1.00 per song? Are you fucking HIGH??

Last night I went out to dinner with my father, and the bar had one of those new-fangled jukeboxes with a touchscreen display that allows you to browse through a vast library of artists & songs. Someone had left 7 credits on the machine, so I waded through all the crappy rap & modern dance (jeez, kids these days...) until I got to some REAL music: AC/DC. (First one on the list, natch!)

Based on what happened next, I'm positive that the bar owner must have inserted those credits intentionally, to lure gullible fools like me...

After AC/DC finished playing, I decided to insert a few spare quarters for another rockin' playlist. Insert 25c -- nada. Another 25c -- nada. Another 25c...and that's when I bothered to look at the display telling me the price: "$1.00 = 2 credits. $5.00 = 12 credits."

What the BLOODY FUCK???

Oh, it gets worse. Most songs, esp. the good ones, cost TWO credits to play. You also have the option of spending THREE credits to play your song immediately, bumping your selection to the head of any queue that's formed before you. Yes, technically you could spent $1.00 per song and never hear them played because some other jerkass spent $1.50/song just to grief you. $1.50 per song!!! I could download them for cheaper than that!

So fuck you, modern jukebox. Fuck you for destroying a bygone era when songs only cost a quarter (in my time) or even less. Fuck you, and fuck that Beyonce CD you kept trying to sell me every ten seconds. And fuck you for taking advantage of drunken idiots (or non-drunk ones, like me) who don't expect you to ass-rape them!
Old 10-13-2010, 01:05 PM
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:15 PM
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It's a real rock in the box rant! You know what you need to do now. That's right, wait until the owners Golden Retriever is left alone and fire that puppy up. I bet you have just scratched the surface in that bar though. If you look closely, you will see that their drinks is way more expensive than you can have at home.
Old 10-13-2010, 01:21 PM
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I was in a bar once, and they charged me nearly 2 for a glass of coke.

Fuckers, I could have bought a 2 liter bottle in Tesco for that.

What sorta business they running anyway?

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Old 10-13-2010, 01:21 PM
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I kind of remember seeing a jukebox that expensive decades ago. It played these new-fangled things called compact disks.
Old 10-13-2010, 01:46 PM
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There's an ice cream shop around here that deliberately tries to recreate the 50s look and it has a working jukebox. Yes, the pound-you-in-the-ass charges were there, but we all played one song for old-times sake. Hey, we're all in our early twenties, we weren't there for the real thing!
Old 10-13-2010, 01:59 PM
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To the OP, what were doing out a restaurant anyway? You could saved a bunch of money by cooking at home.
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I saved up to 15% or more by switching to Geico brand jukebox music.
Old 10-13-2010, 02:44 PM
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As revenge on the jukebox (and the establishment), invest $5 and play "The End" by The Doors six times straight.
Old 10-13-2010, 03:05 PM
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As revenge on the jukebox (and the establishment), invest $5 and play "The End" by The Doors six times straight.
I was kinda thinking of the long version of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.
Old 10-13-2010, 03:07 PM
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I was kinda thinking of the long version of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.
The live version of Whipping Post, by the Allman Brothers.

("OK, honey, we'll leave as soon as this song is over.")
Old 10-13-2010, 03:07 PM
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Sounds like you have the Jukebox Blues!
Old 10-13-2010, 03:11 PM
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Where have you been? Fifty cents for a song sounds about right to me. That's about equal to a quarter in the early 80s, adjusted for inflation. You pay extra for songs not on the normal playlist. There's plenty of standard party songs to choose from, but if you want to search their online database of music (at least I think it's online--it may not be), it's an extra credit (fifty cents). Sounds perfectly fair to me. At least these days I could walk up to a jukebox and, say, if I'm really in the mood for a Pixies or Smashing Pumpkins tune, I don't have to worry about whether that particular jukebox establishment has it in their collection. If I'm willing to put down a buck, it's there for the playing.

Also, you probably don't want to step into an arcade if you're expecting everything to still cost a quarter a play.

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No, no, you want the jukebox to be expensive. If songs are too cheap, you'll never get to hear the songs you want because there'll be a long queue of crappy songs that other people have put in first.
Old 10-13-2010, 03:18 PM
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The Arrows did "I Love Rock and Roll" in 1975 (Joan Jett, of course, did it better).

For them, it was putting another dime in the jukebox baby. A dime in 1975 is 41 cents today. The modern jukebox bulk package pricing of 12 for $5.00 fits perfectly with inflation (again using the The Arrows as our starting point).

However, you are ranting about something that used to cost a quarter costing a dollar today. Feel free to enter the year when you could spend a quarter for playing a single and see just how much of a shaft you have gotten:

http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl

ETA: Actually you are ranting about a quarter becoming 50 cents, but that you are forced to buy two. That is right in with inflation. Quit whining.

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Old 10-13-2010, 03:29 PM
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I saw a Chuck Berry special the other day. He was reminiscing about what his records first sold for (59 cents) and the penny he got from each sale. Not it's a buck just to hear a song?
Old 10-13-2010, 03:47 PM
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As revenge on the jukebox (and the establishment), invest $5 and play "The End" by The Doors six times straight.
I was kinda thinking of the long version of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.
Nope, play "Hey Soul Sister" and you are guareented to piss off a crowd of dopers!
Old 10-13-2010, 03:52 PM
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No, no, you want the jukebox to be expensive. If songs are too cheap, you'll never get to hear the songs you want because there'll be a long queue of crappy songs that other people have put in first.
Exactly. Plus, from the jukebox owner's perspective, if people are still continually playing songs, you've probably set the price too low.

Also, most modern jukeboxes don't let you play the same song consecutively. They'll let you pay for the same song 6 times, but just play it once.
Old 10-13-2010, 04:41 PM
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Man are you (OP) going to be pissed when the RIAA puts DNA scanners in those things and you have to pay based on how many people will be listening to the song.

Just kidding.

Or am I?
Old 10-13-2010, 04:43 PM
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To the OP, what were doing out a restaurant anyway? You could saved a bunch of money by cooking at home.
Home? Well, la-dee-da, Miss I'm-too-good-for-a-refrigerator-box!
Old 10-13-2010, 04:54 PM
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I saved up to 15% or more by switching to Geico brand jukebox music.
I saved 15% by not tipping the jukebox.
Old 10-13-2010, 05:12 PM
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I waded through all the crappy rap & modern dance (jeez, kids these days...) until I got to some REAL music: AC/DC. (First one on the list, natch!)
You call that noise music. Everyone knows real music died with the last of the megaphone crooners.
Old 10-13-2010, 05:15 PM
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To the OP, what were doing out a restaurant anyway? You could saved a bunch of money by cooking at home.
Home? Well, la-dee-da, Miss I'm-too-good-for-a-refrigerator-box!
We used to dream of cooking in a refrigerator box. Lucky bastard!
Old 10-13-2010, 05:21 PM
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When I was but a wee lad $1 would buy your meal AND several songs...
Old 10-13-2010, 05:33 PM
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That you're in the bar indicates that you don't mind overpaying a bit for short-term entertainment. Food and alcohol are available (many times much cheaper) elsewhere. Why would you eat/drink at a bar then complain about other overpriced short-term entertainment?
Old 10-13-2010, 05:34 PM
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Also, most modern jukeboxes don't let you play the same song consecutively. They'll let you pay for the same song 6 times, but just play it once.
Well, in that case, you alternated between "The End" and "When the Music's Over", back and forth ad nauseum.
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Old 10-13-2010, 09:14 PM
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Also, most modern jukeboxes don't let you play the same song consecutively. They'll let you pay for the same song 6 times, but just play it once.
Well, in that case, you alternated between "The End" and "When the Music's Over", back and forth ad nauseum.
No, I think you just get each song once then. The programming assumption is that if the same song is punched in more than once, those are different people and playing the tune once delivers to everybody who's paid for it up to that moment. To hear it again, you need to pay for and request it again after it's played.
Old 10-13-2010, 09:25 PM
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No, I think you just get each song once then. The programming assumption is that if the same song is punched in more than once, those are different people and playing the tune once delivers to everybody who's paid for it up to that moment. To hear it again, you need to pay for and request it again after it's played.
While I'm not going to agree with the OP that the price of modern jukeboxes is a rip-off, the scenario you and Jackknifed Juggurnaut describe is. If the program is smart enough to identify that situation, it's also smart enough to ask if you want to play the same song again or plug in a different tune. Or dump a metric shitload of quarters into the coin return.
Old 10-13-2010, 09:42 PM
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The OP should visit a Johnny Rockets. Old-fashioned tabletop jukebox selectors, only one nickle per song.

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Old 10-13-2010, 10:13 PM
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They charge extra for non radio tracks to keep people from trying to be all "unique" and show off by letting everyone know that they only listen to deep cuts from popular CDs. Not the radio tracks. If you want to show your hipster side it's gonna cost you because the rest of the bar doesn't want to listen to your deep cuts you hip motherfucker.
Old 10-13-2010, 10:34 PM
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Exactly. Plus, from the jukebox owner's perspective, if people are still continually playing songs, you've probably set the price too low.
On the other hand, the jukebox is continuously making money AND your customers are happy (hey, cheap music!), meaning they might stay longer and spend more on food and drinks.

Unless they are the OP, in which case you need to remember that there is nothing to gain by pleasing the tightwads.

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Old 10-14-2010, 01:32 AM
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Someone had left 7 credits on the machine, so I waded through all the crappy rap & modern dance (jeez, kids these days...) until I got to some REAL music: AC/DC. (First one on the list, natch!)

Based on what happened next, I'm positive that the bar owner must have inserted those credits intentionally, to lure gullible fools like me...

After AC/DC finished playing, I decided to insert a few spare quarters for another rockin' playlist. Insert 25c -- nada. Another 25c -- nada. Another 25c...and that's when I bothered to look at the display telling me the price: "$1.00 = 2 credits. $5.00 = 12 credits."

What the BLOODY FUCK???
Now let me get this straight. Someone had mistakenly left 7 unused credits on the machine, which you cheerfully used, but your still whining about paying $1.00 per song????? How is that a bad deal for you?

Or is it that the bartender put 7 credits in to lure you, yet somehow despite the shitty selection in music, you managed to not only use them up, but wasted more money putting in songs? The story doesn't compute.

12 credits for $5 is a pretty fair deal, based on inflation, btw.

The only common ground I will find with you is I think paying extra to bump someones song is a bad idea. Great way to start a bar fight.

And yeah, the songs that are 12 for 5 sheckels usually are the shitty hit songs, and to dig deeper into the album you have to pay extra. I also find that annoying, however, I can also tell you I've paid extra for songs by artists that you would never find on any jukebox, so to me these Internet jukers are a wash.
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No, I think you just get each song once then. The programming assumption is that if the same song is punched in more than once, those are different people and playing the tune once delivers to everybody who's paid for it up to that moment. To hear it again, you need to pay for and request it again after it's played.
This is what happens and it is a rip-off. It's especially unfair because these jukeboxes intentionally don't show you the number of songs that are already lined up and they don't show the song titles already requested. There could be 50 songs lined up, and if you don't want to pay the extra credits to hear your song next, you could be waiting for hours. At least in good faith, they should alert you when a song you request is already lined up. Instead they gladly take the money for providing nothing.

In some cases, such as a commuter bar or "meeting place"-type bar (where people may gather for pre-gaming or waiting for a train), jukebox users never hear the songs that they played, and are stuck listening to the playlists of patrons that already left hours ago.

OTOH, playing the same song (or 2 songs) repetitively can be pretty irritating to the other patrons, who might decide to move on to someplace less annoying. Preventing someone from playing their favorite song over and over again is a good thing. The last thing I want after settling into my seat, sipping my whisky and watching the game, is to be forced to listen to "Fireflies" over and over.
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I worked at a pub in the 80s, and we always showed it was time to go with to "Paradise by the Dashboard Light" - the favorite sing-a-long song of our regulars. To get to it, I would go back to the controller for the juke and start hitting the reject button (there in case of a scratch on the CD) until Sir Meatloaf came on the speakers. This was at end of night (11:25 PM - close was 11:30), so nobody to piss off. We listened to the rest of the queue as we cleaned up the pub.

Another favorite bar of mine back in the states removed our favorite sing-a-long (Take Me Home Country Roads by John Denver). The owner got tired of us singing along to it after a few pitchers.
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In some cases, such as a commuter bar or "meeting place"-type bar (where people may gather for pre-gaming or waiting for a train), jukebox users never hear the songs that they played, and are stuck listening to the playlists of patrons that already left hours ago.
This sounds a lot like Socialism to me. Damn librul bastards!
Old 10-14-2010, 11:54 AM
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The OP should visit a Johnny Rockets. Old-fashioned tabletop jukebox selectors, only one nickle per song.
Even better, all the songs are from 1982 or earlier.
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Never mind the songs... how could you tell I was high?
Old 10-14-2010, 12:24 PM
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Never mind the songs... how could you tell I was high?
Because you kept on getting more baskets of fries, and talking about how GOOOOOOOOOOODDDDD they were. Then you spent 10 minutes trying to fit a Monopoly $20 into the machine so that you could call up the entire Bob Marley catalogue while eating your fries. That you forgot about. That you then remembered were so GOOOOOOOOODDDD.
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Never mind the songs... how could you tell I was high?
The OP title wasn't a reference to you. It was a reference to a line in one of the songs by one of the OP's favorite bands, AC/DC. You know, All Lit Up
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and that's when I bothered to look at the display telling me the price
You guuuuuuuuuuys, reading is haaaaaaaaaaaaaard.
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Now let me get this straight. Someone had mistakenly left 7 unused credits on the machine, which you cheerfully used, but your still whining about paying $1.00 per song????? How is that a bad deal for you?
Well, mainly I'm pissed because I used up all the free credits on AC/DC before discovering much better songs in the playlist. Didn't mention this in the OP, but after discovering how much it really coast, I *did* spend $7.00 to listen to nearly the entire Heaven and Hell album by Black Sabbath. (It was my personal tribute to the late, great Ronnie James Dio -- for any other artist, I wouldn't have spent a dime, but for Ronnie it was worth it.)

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12 credits for $5 is a pretty fair deal, based on inflation, btw.
Not when you compare the jukebox price to the cost of buying music in a store! Back in the day when the jukebox only cost a quarter, a 45rpm single would cost you $3.00, while a full LP record was $7.99 or more. Even today, the standard CD price has remained static for years ($13-20), and you can download full albums for around eight bucks or individual songs for only 99 cents. Compare THAT to spending $1.50 just to hear your favorite song in a bar -- it's highway robbery!

Also, what's the profit ratio on these machines? They must be much cheaper to maintain than jukeboxes of yore, since there are no moving parts to break, and since all the music is digital, the records never skip...

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