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Old 12-21-2011, 05:34 PM
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[Rudolph] You'll go down in history (like ???)

For the last few years my wife and I have had a disagreement about the song "Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer."

I'm sure most of you know how the song goes:

All of the other reindeer
(reindeer)
used to laugh and call him names
(like Pinocchio)

At the end I've always said:

You'll go down in history
(like Columbus)

My very pretty, but mistaken wife, on the other hand, says:

You'll go down in history
(like George Washington)

Which is admirable, but wrong.

What says the Dope?
Old 12-21-2011, 05:40 PM
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Are these all ad-libs you add to the song (or are they in the recording you have)? Do you do this with other songs?

My answer is: I don't do that.
Old 12-21-2011, 05:43 PM
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I do not know that the song goes that way. I do know that Jingle Bells is about the Dynamic Duo's body odor though.
Old 12-21-2011, 05:44 PM
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Sorry, you're wife is correct. Rudolph will go down in history like George Washington.

I've also heard the suggestion that Rudolph will "go down" in history like Monica Lewinsky.
Old 12-21-2011, 05:45 PM
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For us it was "Like Linda Lovelace." (c. 1977 - 1980)
Old 12-21-2011, 05:47 PM
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columbus.

for the record my addendums go like:
reindeer
like a lightbulb
saw it
like a flash light
reindeer
like pinnochio
rudolph
like monopoly
ho-ho-ho
loved him
yippee
reindeer
like columbus.
Old 12-21-2011, 05:47 PM
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Here's what drives me crazy about this song:

Opening line: You know Dancer and Prancer and...."

And then: But do you recall the most famous reindeer of all?"

Well, if he's the most famous, then Rudolph is the one we'd recall more than the others, right?

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Old 12-21-2011, 05:47 PM
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I agree with your wife. It was always "George Washington" during my misspent youth.
Old 12-21-2011, 05:49 PM
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No. "Like Lincoln." "Like George Washington" has WAYYY too many syllables.
Old 12-21-2011, 05:51 PM
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Columbus. Always was Columbus (mid 1970s).


Here are the added lines:

Reindeer
Like a lightbulb
Saw it
Like Donner
Like Pinocchio
Rudolph
Like Monopoly
Loved him
With glee!
Reindeer
Like Columbus!
Old 12-21-2011, 05:58 PM
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I can't figure out what this discussion is about, but when and if I ever do, I'm gonna shout out with glee.

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Old 12-21-2011, 05:58 PM
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Olive, the other reindeer
Used to laugh and call him names...

I love that mondegreen.
Old 12-21-2011, 06:11 PM
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Here's what drives me crazy about this song:

Opening line: You know Dancer and Prancer and...."

And then: But do you recall the most famous reindeer of all?"

Well, if he's the most famous, then Rudolph is the one we'd recall more than the others, right?
I have jokingly complained about this every time it gets played (it actually really annoyed me as well). Now my 7&9 year old kids really hate the song and character- really truly despise him. They literally cannot listen to the song anymore and will insist on skipping it whenever it comes on. I've tried to reverse course on it and them, but it is the strangest bit of psychology I have ever worked. I am both awed and appalled by myself. So careful with what you reap!
Old 12-21-2011, 06:20 PM
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I always heard George Washington referenced growing up in the 90's in a suburb of Washington DC. I also always hated the added lines for some reason. They just don't fit with the rest of the song and they feel like added commentary rather than part of the song's narrative.
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Here's what drives me crazy about this song:

Opening line: You know Dancer and Prancer and...."

And then: But do you recall the most famous reindeer of all?"

Well, if he's the most famous, then Rudolph is the one we'd recall more than the others, right?
I'd never realized that, but it's now going to bug the heck out of me every time I hear the song. Thanks for that.
Old 12-21-2011, 07:00 PM
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I can't figure out what this discussion is about, but when and if I ever do, I'm gonna shout out with glee.

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Rudolph the red nosed reindeer (reindeer)
Had a very shiny nose
And if you ever saw it (saw it)
You would even say it glows (like a lightbulb)

All of the other reindeer (like Donner)
Used to laugh and call him names (like Pinocchio)
They wouldn't let poor Roudolph (Rudolph)
Join in any reindeer games (like monopoly)

Then one stormy Christmas eve
Santa came to say,
"Rudolph with your nose so bright, won't you lead my sleigh tonight"

Then all of the other reindeer (reindeer)
Laughed and shouted out with glee (with glee)
"Rudolph the red nosed reindeer, you'll go down in history!" (like Columbus)

The words in parentheses are added in after the line is sung.
From memory, so it might not be perfect. And I hope quoting all the lyrics was ok.

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Old 12-21-2011, 07:15 PM
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As I was waiting for my verrrry slow computer to open the thead my first thought was "like Columbus" and then I thought "or was it "like George Washington?", so I must have heard / sung both. Also, we always said "toothpaste" after the "shouted out with glee" line. I can't remember if we actually thought the lyric was "gleam" or if in our tiny minds it was just funny.
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Ah! So it's about a misunderstanding of a lyric!

Thanks, ITD!

I thought y'all were going all philosophical/political on me.

You know, like "Columbus vs Washington, which one should be mentioned in the song?"

"Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. " Hal 2000 - 2001 A Space Odyssey



Thanks for clarifying, ITD!

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Old 12-21-2011, 07:28 PM
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'Like Lincoln. '

That said, I've been trying to get 'Like René Lévesque' going in here in Canada, but so far it hasn't caught on.
Old 12-21-2011, 07:35 PM
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"Like Bobby Orr..."
Old 12-21-2011, 07:37 PM
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No. "Like Lincoln." "Like George Washington" has WAYYY too many syllables.
No, Lincoln has two few. All of the "like" words have three or four syllables: Pinocchio, Monopoly, a light bulb.
Old 12-21-2011, 07:39 PM
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Pinocchio for the first history reference

George Washington for the second.



Crazy how many different variations there are
Old 12-21-2011, 08:01 PM
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No, Lincoln has two few. All of the "like" words have three or four syllables: Pinocchio, Monopoly, a light bulb.
Well, Pinocchio is wrong, too. It should be "like Dumbo".
Old 12-21-2011, 08:07 PM
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Pinocchio has a nice rhythm.
Old 12-21-2011, 08:20 PM
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I always thought the song stops after the lyrics "You'll go down in his-to-ry" . End

Whose version are y'all listening to - Gene Autry's? 'Cause I sure can't hear any of the backgound singers singing anything. Matter of fact, there aren't any background singers!

http://youtu.be/7ara3-hDH6I

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Old 12-21-2011, 08:21 PM
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Pinocchio and Columbus (mid-70s, central PA)
Old 12-21-2011, 08:22 PM
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Lincoln!

I've grown to dislike this song because of its "lesson": If you're an outcast, the other kids will come to like you only if you can do something for THEM.
Old 12-21-2011, 08:22 PM
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I always thought the song stops after the lyrics "You'll go down in his-to-ry" . End

Whose version are y'all listening to - Gene Autry's? 'Cause I sure can't hear any of the backgound singers singing anything. Matter of fact, there aren't any background singers!

http://youtu.be/7ara3-hDH6I

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Heh, no...these are lyrics that WE sing during the song. It's just something that little kids add to the song when they sing it.
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I always thought the song stops after the lyrics "You'll go down in his-to-ry" . End
I'd never heard of this either, Quasimodem. Now that I have, I'm glad I never came across this before.

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Old 12-21-2011, 08:33 PM
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Heh, no...these are lyrics that WE sing during the song. It's just something that little kids add to the song when they sing it.
What a COUNTRY! I LOVE it!

I never knew that, jayjay! How very unique, and how very cute!

Guess I got to the US too late to know all of this.....

(Please don't take offense at the word "cute", okay?

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Old 12-21-2011, 08:41 PM
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What a COUNTRY! I LOVE it!

I never knew that, jayjay! How very unique, and how very cute!

Guess I got to the US too late to know all of this.....

(Please don't take offense at the word "cute", okay?

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No offense taken, Quasi! I still do it, especially when my partner is in the car with me, because he looks at me like "This again?"
Old 12-21-2011, 09:10 PM
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like Attilla the Hun
Old 12-21-2011, 09:14 PM
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Olive, the other reindeer
Used to laugh and call him names...

I love that mondegreen.
I was just about to post that, as a kid, I always parsed the line in question as "his story" (Santa's story?), which isn't technically a Mondegreen, but, anyway, it never made sense to me to discuss a folk tale as being a part of actual history (yes I was very precocious, and deduced that Santa couldn't exist when I was 6 years old and noticed that there was no land at the North Pole).
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No, it goes like this:

Rudolph the red nosed reindeer (reindeer)
Had a very shiny nose
And if you ever saw it (saw it)
You would even say it glows (like a lightbulb)

All of the other reindeer (reindeer)
Used to laugh and call him names (like Pinocchio)
They wouldn't let poor Rudolph (Rudolph)
Join in any reindeer games (like football)

Then one stormy Christmas eve
Santa came to say,
"Rudolph with your nose so bright, won't you guide my sleigh tonight"

Then all of the other reindeer (reindeer)
Laughed and shouted out with glee (yippee)
"Rudolph the red nosed reindeer, you'll go down in history!" (like Columbus)

I'm surprised you all don't know that. Sheesh.

P.S. Thanks IvoryTowerDenizen for typing all that out for me.
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P.S. Thanks IvoryTowerDenizen for typing all that out for me.
I was reading yours, impressed that we used the same punctuation and everything!

Then I saw your PS.

And I typed it on my iPad.

And you're wrong, btw.

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Old 12-21-2011, 09:57 PM
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In the pilot episode of The Simpsons, Bart says "like Atilla the Hun" (or attempts to, before Homer gets annoyed with him). I'll take Bart Simpson as a trusty authority on the matter.
Old 12-21-2011, 09:59 PM
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I feel like I've lost out on a huge piece of "Young Americana".

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i always heard the george washington version, and was i the only one to hear the "shouted out with glee(like toothpaste!)" version?
Old 12-21-2011, 10:05 PM
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Except for the repeated words in these lines:

Rudolph the red nosed reindeer (reindeer)

And if you ever saw it (saw it)

All of the other reindeer (reindeer)

Then all of the other reindeer (reindeer)
Laughed and shouted out with glee (with glee)


I've never heard the other ad-libs, and I've lived in the US all my 41 years. Maybe because I went to parochial school, where it was a struggle to get any non-church songs into the Christmas concert?
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i always heard the george washington version, and was i the only one to hear the "shouted out with glee(like toothpaste!)" version?
I've never heard "with toothpaste."

The response was always "yipee!"
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i always figured glee was some 70s toothpaste cause i mostly heard the toothpaste ad lib growing up in the 80s, but a quick google doesn't show any toothpaste with that brand name. later on i heard the yipee version.
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"Like George Washington" is how I learned it as a kid.
Old 12-21-2011, 11:14 PM
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Never heard the Columbus version until this post. It was always George Washington when I heard it.
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i always figured glee was some 70s toothpaste cause i mostly heard the toothpaste ad lib growing up in the 80s, but a quick google doesn't show any toothpaste with that brand name. later on i heard the yipee version.
The toothpaste was called Gleam and as I mentioned, I don't recall if we actaully thought the correct lyric was gleam or if it just seemed clever to us. This amusing reminiscence aside, this is one of my all time hated Christmas songs(not to be Grinchy or anything).
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For the last few years my wife and I have had a disagreement about the song "Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer."

I'm sure most of you know how the song goes:

All of the other reindeer
(reindeer)
used to laugh and call him names
(like Pinocchio)

At the end I've always said:

You'll go down in history
(like Columbus)

My very pretty, but mistaken wife, on the other hand, says:

You'll go down in history
(like George Washington)

Which is admirable, but wrong.

What says the Dope?

Everyone I know has always said Columbus.
Old 12-21-2011, 11:36 PM
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Why have I never heard any of this?
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So, nobody else says "like Napoleon"? I'm feeling a little lonely over here.
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Lincoln!

I've grown to dislike this song because of its "lesson": If you're an outcast, the other kids will come to like you only if you can do something for THEM.
Even worse, the song says that it's OK to pick on anyone who's different, until he's useful to The Man. I wonder how they'll treat him the next time Christmas has clear weather.
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I've also heard the suggestion that Rudolph will "go down" in history like Monica Lewinsky.
As in "Go Down Moses."
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the answer is "like George Washington"
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Columbus. Never even heard that George Washington shit before this thread.
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