View Poll Results: How do you pronounce 'ramen'?
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Old 02-06-2012, 07:25 PM
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How do you pronounce 'ramen'?

I was listening to the WTF podcast with Marc Marron, and he (and I think a guest) were talking about the ubiquitous noodles, and pronouncing their name 'RAY-men'.

Is that a common pronunciation? How do you pronounce it?
Old 02-06-2012, 07:26 PM
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rah-men
Old 02-06-2012, 07:28 PM
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RAH-men.
Old 02-06-2012, 07:31 PM
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I was listening to the WTF podcast with Marc Marron, and he (and I think a guest) were talking about the ubiquitous noodles, and pronouncing their name 'RAY-men'.

Is that a common pronunciation? How do you pronounce it?
Ha-ha. I remember watching a TV courtroom case when a character said "Roman noodles", and the judge corrected the man/woman, saying that it was "Ramen" noodles" in the setting. At first, I was kind of confused on the phrase "Roman noodles", though. Amusing, huh?
Old 02-06-2012, 07:33 PM
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They probably just made a mistake. But there is a certain Japanese dish of cold noodles called "ray-men". I doubt they were discussing that exact dish though.
Old 02-06-2012, 07:35 PM
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Rah-men, though ever since I took Japanese I do have a nasty habit of pronouncing it as the way you would read ラメン (Japanese speakers: the "ー" was omitted intentionally since in English I don't make the length distinction), which means the "r" is more of a flap.

Though as far as weird pronunciations go my mom says romaine. Like the lettuce. She claims that everyone she knew in college said it that way, though I find this dubious since I think the only common type of instant noodles when she was in college would have been called "Oodles of Noodles."


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They probably just made a mistake. But there is a certain Japanese dish of cold noodles called "ray-men". I doubt they were discussing that exact dish though.
Just looked it up -- reimen sounds absolutely delicious.

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Old 02-06-2012, 07:36 PM
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Ha-ha. I remember watching a TV courtroom case when a character said "Roman noodles", and the judge corrected the man/woman, saying that it was "Ramen" noodles" in the setting. At first, I was kind of confused on the phrase "Roman noodles", though. Amusing, huh?
I think Roman noodles would be pronounced 'spaghetti'.
Old 02-06-2012, 07:43 PM
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Just looked it up -- reimen sounds absolutely delicious.
It is!
Old 02-06-2012, 09:50 PM
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I've only heard ramen by people who think foreign words are all too highfalutin. It's something I would expect someone like Archie Bunker to say.
Old 02-06-2012, 09:53 PM
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Larmen.
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I've only heard ramen by people who think foreign words are all too highfalutin. It's something I would expect someone like Archie Bunker to say.
Archie Bunker would just cut thru the crap and say "noodles," no?
Old 02-06-2012, 09:58 PM
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Rah-men is close, but not quite.

Rah-mən.
Old 02-06-2012, 10:01 PM
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Rah-men is close, but not quite.

Rah-mən.
I did actually get as far as copying the schwa character from Wikipedia in order to put it in the OP, but then realised to be consistent I would have to use all phonetic transcript characters and I don't know them, and nor would many people reading the thread.
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:46 AM
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Larmen.
I used to frequent a Japanese restaurant where they spelled it 'larmen' on their menu. I just thought it was a bad spelling error, since they used 'rah-men' when speaking.
Old 02-07-2012, 10:07 AM
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Dear Lord,

Thank you for the tasty noodles.

Ramen.
Old 02-07-2012, 10:39 AM
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Just yesterday we stopped to try a Japanese place we hadn't been to before and I had the shoyu ramen with pork and kamaboko (fish cakes). In fact, I'm finishing off the leftovers at this very moment. Yum.

But what really blew me away was something I hadn't gotten around to trying before -- zaru soba cold buckwheat noodles with soba tsuyu and scallions and wasabi on the side. Fandamntastic! So refreshing.

The Japanese really are the masters of food. I think Japanese cuisine should displace Chinese as one of the top global cuisine traditions. I'd call it Japanese, Indian, and French.
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I used to say ray-men, then I heard other people say it the "right" way, felt for a time like an ignorant, uneducated rube, and then started saying rah-men.
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When I hear Japanese people say it, it sounds like they're dropping the last consonant, so it's more like [ra 'me:]
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I'm in the midwest and hear it both ways about equally.
Old 02-07-2012, 01:41 PM
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I say it 'ra-men'. Not 'ray', to rhyme with 'say', as might be suggested by the spelling; not 'rah' with the same a-sound as 'father'; but 'ra' with the a-sound that 'cat' has in my dialect, which I think is sometimes indicated as ''.
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So the various pronunciations offered so far include --

['ra mɪ̈n] (rahmen)
['reɪ mɪ̈n] (raymen)
['roʊ mən] (Roman)
[roʊ 'meɪn] (romaine)
[ra 'me:]
['r mɪ̈n] (rammen)

Jragon, how would you transcribe the Japanese pronunciation that you use?
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Lo mein.
Old 02-07-2012, 04:50 PM
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Well, it's different than varelse.
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So-baa.
Old 02-07-2012, 08:48 PM
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I know it's "RAH-men," but when I see it, my mind goes to "RAY-men" first. Just like, when I see "awry" in print, my mind initially says "AW-ree."
Old 02-10-2012, 02:25 AM
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So the various pronunciations offered so far include --

['ra mɪ̈n] (rahmen)
['reɪ mɪ̈n] (raymen)
['roʊ mən] (Roman)
[roʊ 'meɪn] (romaine)
[ra 'me:]
['r mɪ̈n] (rammen)

Jragon, how would you transcribe the Japanese pronunciation that you use?
About the same as the first one except with an alveolar tap/flap instead of an alveolar approximant.
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Old 02-10-2012, 02:43 AM
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Falcon-head dudes

I don't recall ever hearing it called RAY-men. Sounds too much like Raymond noodles.
Old 02-10-2012, 04:33 AM
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I used to say ray-men, then I heard other people say it the "right" way, felt for a time like an ignorant, uneducated rube, and then started saying rah-men.
I'm going throught that right now. I've eaten a whole heap of them in my lifetime, but only ever discussed or heard about them in textual media.
Old 02-10-2012, 06:57 AM
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I picked rah-men, but normally what I say is closer to "rammin' noodles", which looks really wrong when I write it out like that!

I haven't eaten that stuff since elementary school, when the fashion was to crunch up the dry noodles and sprinkle on the seasoning packet and eat it like that as a crunchy snack.
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Archie Bunker would just cut thru the crap and say "noodles," no?
I was picturing something like "You eating those highfalutin raymon noodles, Meathead? Why can't you eat spaghetti like a real American?"

Incidentally, I just learned that highfalutin is a real word, not just a hickism.

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Old 02-11-2012, 01:20 AM
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I had a boyfriend who grew up in Alaska and ate a LOT of it as a child (his parents were very poor hippie homesteaders)... he called it, very breathilly, "rahhhhhhhhhhhh-mens"
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