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Old 01-01-2014, 09:45 PM
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Is this really Joseph Stalin as a young man?

Age 15:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...talin_1894.jpg

Age 23:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...talin_1902.jpg

Age 32:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...s_Mug_Shot.jpg

One of these things is not like the other........

I don't want to poison the well so I'll just ask if everyone thinks this is the same man in all three photos.
Old 01-01-2014, 10:17 PM
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23 and 32 are definitely him. But it's hard to say with the youngest. The mouth is so narrow, but of course there's the lack of mustache. The eyes are possibly a match, and according to this site, it's him.
Old 01-01-2014, 10:29 PM
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The first one looks more like an illustration than a photograph.
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My observation, and some real life observers agreed to it, was that the photo of him at 23 appears to be a different individual. Watch the ears and eyes and nose, the ears are the most obvious giveaway. The 15yr old and 32 year old have the same ears, ditto for older Stalin. 23yr old has ears flat against his head.
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I can't agree; the ears look similar enough to me. I see no significant difference. It's the same man.
Old 01-01-2014, 11:30 PM
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My observation, and some real life observers agreed to it, was that the photo of him at 23 appears to be a different individual. Watch the ears and eyes and nose, the ears are the most obvious giveaway. The 15yr old and 32 year old have the same ears, ditto for older Stalin. 23yr old has ears flat against his head.
I don't see any reason to think those are different individuals. The ears don't appear to me to be significantly different.
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Looks like the same person to me.
Old 01-01-2014, 11:40 PM
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None of them look like Stalin to me, but none of them stand out particularly, either. If any did, I'd say it was the first one.
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The first two don't look especially evil, but I'd say he's coming into his own by #3.
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Actually, I think the first one is a young Spock.
Old 01-02-2014, 12:03 AM
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Actually, I think the first one is a young Spock.
I was thinking a constipated Michael Cera myself.

I guess you guys are right, but looking at this side view and comparing it to the older Stalin the nose matches but it just looks weird.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7...ng+stalin.jpeg
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The first one looks more like an illustration than a photograph.
That's what I was going to say. At the very least it looks heavily retouched.
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Old 01-02-2014, 09:26 AM
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I've heard (here on the SDMB, when I posted the 23 year old photo in a thread about, IIRC, the comparative evilness of Uncle Joe's mustache vs. that nice Mr. Hitler's) that the 23-yr old photo was retouched as well, to hide facial blemishes (smallpox scars). I don't know, but it's plausible. Still, that young Stalin was a fine lookin' man. I'd work on his collective farm, if you know what I mean.
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That 15 year old picture is creepy. He's a nice looking kid who could be like any other kid. He looks like he'd be good at academics, he looks like he's disciplined, and I'd bet he's a little girl crazy and good at sports. Yet behind those eyes lies one of the most evil brains of the 20th century. It's very hard to reconcile the seeming innocence of the child in the picture with the man he's to become.
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That 15 year old picture is creepy. He's a nice looking kid who could be like any other kid. He looks like he'd be good at academics, he looks like he's disciplined, and I'd bet he's a little girl crazy and good at sports. Yet behind those eyes lies one of the most evil brains of the 20th century. It's very hard to reconcile the seeming innocence of the child in the picture with the man he's to become.
Just like this little cutie.
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Man, has that guy ever had a decent haircut?
Old 01-02-2014, 06:15 PM
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I've heard (here on the SDMB, when I posted the 23 year old photo in a thread about, IIRC, the comparative evilness of Uncle Joe's mustache vs. that nice Mr. Hitler's) that the 23-yr old photo was retouched as well, to hide facial blemishes (smallpox scars). I don't know, but it's plausible. Still, that young Stalin was a fine lookin' man. I'd work on his collective farm, if you know what I mean.
Dude! He is one handsome devil! Looks like Christian Slater.

He should never have purged his hairdresser from 1902...
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No 1 is Jim-Bob Walton.
No 2 is Raoul, my pool boy.
No 3 is Bartolomeo Vanzetti. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacco_and_Vanzetti

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Old 01-03-2014, 09:19 PM
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Dewey:The first one looks more like an illustration than a photograph.
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Colophone: That's what I was going to say. At the very least it looks heavily retouched.
Portraits from that period often had that altered or retouched look to them. I have a large portrait of my great-grandparents that has the same quality. I don't know what process was used.

I think the notion that we can detect evil in a face is probably nonsense. Most mug shots look like hell except Sinatra's.

http://allposters.com/-sp/Frank-..._i8960054_.htm

Judging from the eyebrows alone, I think all three in the OP are the same person.
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The first one looks more like an illustration than a photograph.
This. That first 15 YO pic does not look like a photo.
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The middle one looks like you would find him in a coffeehouse giving bad poetry readings and putting the moves on the hippie girls.
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Somewhere I read that Beria kept on his good side by keeping him supplied with women. He was a major do-them-on-the-stone-floor horndog like Mussolini, but when he wanted one he didn't want to make much effort getting her. And his preference was for big girls.
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The middle one looks like you would find him in a coffeehouse giving bad poetry readings and putting the moves on the hippie girls.
No information about the hippie girls, but: Stalin's poetry.
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Yes definitely, all those pictures appear in the book Young Stalin by Simon Sebag Montefiore.

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