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Old 08-19-2016, 05:02 AM
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"Glow Up" - have you heard this phrase before?

My daughter started High School this past Monday and, asking her which kids have changed, who looks different, etc, she said "And everybody says I glowed up this summer."

"Glow up?"

"Yeah, that's when you come back to school, looking different, more mature..." waves her hand around her face... "Glowing up."

I love the phrase. Wonder why it took mankind all these years to come up with it. So my question is: is this a new idiom or have I somehow missed it these past 49 years?
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Old 08-19-2016, 05:15 AM
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Not heard it but assume it's a creative/poetic derivative of 'growing up', so could reasonably have originated in rap lyrics.

Fwiw, Google shows it has rap connections - a Japanese youtube vid has 1.2 million views.

I guess it ties in with Romeo and Juliet / that teenage ardent / fertility state of .. chaos.

Agree, a nice phrase.
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Old 08-19-2016, 06:57 AM
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I have a long running project I've discussed here and there that involves eliminating all the unnecessary pilot lights, standby indicators and generally useless illumination around my house, so that dark means dark and not "bridge of the Enterprise at night."

I call it the Glow to Hell project.
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Old 08-19-2016, 07:06 AM
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I have heard 'glow' associated with maturing young women. Forgive me for suggesting this, it sometimes refers to a young woman becoming sexually active.
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Old 08-19-2016, 07:29 AM
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.. or *demonstrably* fertile.
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Old 08-19-2016, 10:01 AM
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It's funny, I actually listen to KOHH despite not knowing japanese (the song mentioned by up_the_junction ) and I initially assumed it was a reference to the glow at the end of a joint when you inhale. I'd never heard it anywhere else, but I'm also not a kid on the edge of new slang so...

Anyway, urban dictionary tells me that it's a slang term that came into play sometime in the summer of last year (the hip hop video came out months later) and is exactly what's described: the maturation of a person into someone "fine". However, I see plenty of examples that include a photo comparison of a boy looking kind of dorky and then looking all-put-together, with a nice shirt, a nice haircut, and a matured jawline. So I don't think it's only about girls.

ETA: The actor Matthew Lewis in Harry Potter is probably the most obvious example of a boy "glowing up"

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Old 08-19-2016, 11:57 AM
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No offense taken, TriPolar. We talked a bit about this phrase - I mentioned "glowing" in terms of health and pregnancy, which Sophia knew already. Her and her mom remember the phrase being pretty recent to them, buttressing Macca26's reference.

Wow! Reading the above makes the exchange seem so tranquil.

Sophia is 14 so the conversation was more like this:

"I don't think I heard that phrase before."
"Really, dad? It's been around since forever."
"OK... what is 'forever' in this reference?"
"We were saying this last year!"
"OK, I just never heard of it. I've heard of 'glowing', meaning 'good health' or 'really really pregnant', but I like ..."
"Dad! Do we have to talk about this?!? Do you have any idea how distracting it is to study Latin while your father is discussing pregnancy?"

Good times.
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Old 08-19-2016, 03:23 PM
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Mention to her that the latin-oid word for "pregnant" is "gravid."

'Cos that's the DAD thing to do...

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Old 08-19-2016, 09:30 PM
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Her description makes it sound like it just means "grown up." But Urban Dictionary suggests it means "grown up and become pretty/attractive/hot."

I say suggests because there's not really a straightforward definition. They're more generic and indirect than the example sentences.

I'm impressed that the term doesn't bother you. Most guys I know freak out when their daughters are first thought of in this way.
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Old 08-20-2016, 01:06 PM
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I call it the Glow to Hell project.
The Glow to Hell Project is a fantasy novel title waiting to happen.
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Old 08-20-2016, 03:18 PM
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Well ya' know, years ago women were said to glow, which was a euphemism for sweating(a must UN-ladylike thing to do). Logical outcome? Extension? Projection?
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Old 08-21-2016, 08:43 AM
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Her description makes it sound like it just means "grown up." But Urban Dictionary suggests it means "grown up and become pretty/attractive/hot."

I say suggests because there's not really a straightforward definition. They're more generic and indirect than the example sentences.

I'm impressed that the term doesn't bother you. Most guys I know freak out when their daughters are first thought of in this way.
Naw, it's no big deal. Sophia is in the "boy band and cute YouTube stars" stage of her life. She's had a few boys interested in her, which is a complication (her word) she doesn't want right now.

As her father, it's probably better for her development and ego (not to mention social status) to know that boys her age find her attractive then it is for her to think I'm going to fly into some idiotic, stereotypical rage because some 15yo boy thinks she's cute.
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Old 08-21-2016, 12:28 PM
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As her father, it's probably better for her development and ego (not to mention social status) to know that boys her age find her attractive then it is for her to think I'm going to fly into some idiotic, stereotypical rage because some 15yo boy thinks she's cute.
Good on ya. But I do want to clarify I didn't mean that when I referred to the other guys I knew. I don't know anyone who goes into a rage. They're just pensive and uncomfortable for a while.
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Old 08-21-2016, 12:52 PM
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Naw, it's no big deal. Sophia is in the "boy band and cute YouTube stars" stage of her life. She's had a few boys interested in her, which is a complication (her word) she doesn't want right now.



As her father, it's probably better for her development and ego (not to mention social status) to know that boys her age find her attractive then it is for her to think I'm going to fly into some idiotic, stereotypical rage because some 15yo boy thinks she's cute.

This is so refreshing to hear, John. What a glown-up dad you are.
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Old 08-21-2016, 01:19 PM
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Good on ya. But I do want to clarify I didn't mean that when I referred to the other guys I knew. I don't know anyone who goes into a rage. They're just pensive and uncomfortable for a while.
Here in San Antonio there there is a lot of "...anybody looks at my daughter and I'm going to shoot them" comments from the other fathers of my daughters friends. And the difference between expectations between girls and boys, especially in the Hispanic culture, is quite striking. For example, Sophia has a number of friends who still aren't allowed to go on sleepovers, even though their younger brothers are. This results in a LOT of discussion in our house about differing expectations between men and women, and Sophia has definitely entered the stage in her life where she is going to notice ANYTHING that smacks of "anti-girl."

That's what I meant by "stereotypical rage" exhibited by fathers. It is something I do see here and it's like being in an 80s sitcom at times.

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Old 08-21-2016, 08:18 PM
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I've only ever heard "glow" as applied to pregnant women and as a euphemism for sweating women, which is apparently a bad thing in some groups.
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Old 08-21-2016, 10:27 PM
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Here in San Antonio there there is a lot of "...anybody looks at my daughter and I'm going to shoot them" comments from the other fathers of my daughters friends. And the difference between expectations between girls and boys, especially in the Hispanic culture, is quite striking. For example, Sophia has a number of friends who still aren't allowed to go on sleepovers, even though their younger brothers are. This results in a LOT of discussion in our house about differing expectations between men and women, and Sophia has definitely entered the stage in her life where she is going to notice ANYTHING that smacks of "anti-girl."

That's what I meant by "stereotypical rage" exhibited by fathers. It is something I do see here and it's like being in an 80s sitcom at times.

I bet she thinks (as much as teenagers can) that you rock. And I'm in east Texas, so it's pretty rampant and annoying here as well. I never could stand being treated like some special snowflake that needed protecting and I certainly wouldn't have been happy about any obvious double standards like that. Yeesh.
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Old 08-22-2016, 02:10 AM
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Perhaps it just means "grow up" as someone posted above, while another poster mentioned a possible Japanese connection.

From my experience, many Japanese have trouble distinguishing the difference in pronunciation between "r" and "l". Wikipedia explains:
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Japanese speakers who learn English as a second language later than childhood often have difficulty in hearing and producing /l/ and /r/ accurately.

There are numerous minimal pairs of words distinguishing only /r/ and /l/. For their study, Kuzniak & Zapf (2004) used:

Right/Light
Red/Led
Road/Load
Crime/Climb
Bread/Bled
Froze/Flows
Arrive/Alive
Correct/Collect

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Old 08-22-2016, 09:49 AM
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I'm channeling MilliCal, my now 19-year-old daughter, on this. She says this is recent phrase, maybe not all that well-known, and means a girl who has grown up to be very attractive. You wouldn't use this for a guy.


Me, 60 and not tied into the community, I haven't heard this. Nor has Pepper Mill, who teaches Middle school, but has been off al summer.
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Old 08-22-2016, 02:55 PM
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As for her Dad, she has always been beautiful.

Good to know her girlfriends think so too.
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Old 08-25-2016, 04:25 PM
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Gonna give all the Glown Ups here a chance to see Sophia in a TV news report released today, talking about the San Antonio Food Bank:

http://twcnews.com/tx/san-antoni...w-heights.html

Her mother is in the green shirt. I am not there.
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Old 08-25-2016, 05:40 PM
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Anyway, urban dictionary tells me that it's a slang term that came into play sometime in the summer of last year (the hip hop video came out months later) and is exactly what's described: the maturation of a person into someone "fine".
That reminds me of "blossomed" in the sense of a gawky/young teen becoming a more mature, attractive teen -- but does "blossomed" mostly refer to breasts/curves getting bigger/"filling out"?
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Old 08-26-2016, 02:06 PM
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That reminds me of "blossomed" in the sense of a gawky/young teen becoming a more mature, attractive teen -- but does "blossomed" mostly refer to breasts/curves getting bigger/"filling out"?
I've heard it like that, and I've heard it more neutral sounding. When it's said in that euphemistic way it means what you described. But I've heard it also in the context of a shier girl opening up, or a tomboy starting to dress pretty. So it can't just mean that.
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